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Midway: Secret game looks 'better' than Gears 2

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at a Wheelman press event which took place in London yesterday, creative director Simon Woodroffe has revealed that the future for Midway Games' titles is looking very good indeed and it's all because of the publisher's shared technology.

"I just saw a demo of a new Midway game that's in development. I can't tell you too much about it, but they've been on it for three months and it looks as good if not better than Gears 2," said Woodroffe. "This is only possible because of the sharing of technology." (Dev)

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Deviant  +   2368d ago
"but they've been on it for three months and it looks as good if not better than Gears 2"
thor  +   2368d ago
... says a guy from Midway. How can he possibly be credible?

Furthermore, they're still using UE3 as far as I'm aware. That engine is getting old. Sure it can look better than Gears 2 which also uses UE3, but if they want to go much further, they've got to get a new engine.
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vitz3  +   2368d ago
Nu-uh. My "secret" game looks better than Gears 3!

You guys do know that Midway published UT3 right? Somehow I believe them when they say that their version of the UT3 engine is more up to date.
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Rob0g0rilla  +   2368d ago
Lol, 2 years from release
and in 3 months they got it looking better then gears 2. Pssshtt

I kinda feel sorry for these guys. Grasping for straws, hoping to catch a break. There best just isn't enough.
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InMyOpinion  +   2368d ago
Gears 2 uses a greatly updated version of the UE3 engine used in Gears 1.

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Rock Bottom  +   2368d ago
I don't think Midway have what it takes to make a good game, not to mention making something better than gears.
blacsheep  +   2368d ago
jenzo ,i dont care what they say it uses
the recent comparison video shows miniscule difference between gears and gears 2.
The Killer  +   2368d ago
wats there to beat in Gears of war 2?
certainly there is many games achieve greater heights in the graphics department, and if anyone doesnt agree is me is a pure fanboy, metal gears solid 4 and uncharted easily beat gears of war 2!
thor  +   2368d ago
I know - I suppose you're right, the UE3 _now_ isn't the same UE3 as _before_. It's going to hit its limitations at some stage, though. It's always best (for the graphics at least) to have a custom-built engine for the game you're trying to produce.

I lol at fanboys who don't think Gears 2 is a tremendous graphical achievement though. And I lol at Midway for claiming to have built a game with better graphics than Gears 2 in 3 months. It probably looks good, but no doubt he's exaggerating.
PS3n360  +   2368d ago
Your such a fanboy.
jackhammer06  +   2368d ago
I felt was Gears 2 was better in some ways than Gears 1....
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PS3n360  +   2368d ago
Your such a fanboy.
Doppy  +   2367d ago
That's nice if it's true, but I doubt, they have much of a game then. If they've only been working on it for 3 months I'm pretty sure they only have about 1 stage done.

And even though it looks as good as Gears 2 now, they are going to have to step it up because as I have been saying 2009 is the year of Graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GT5, Forza 3, GOW, Crysis (possible PS3), so Midway is going to have to step it up because Gears 2 graphics will probably become the standard for multiplatform games, rather than being what Gears of War 1 was back in 2006.

I'm guessing it's a 3rd person shooter with a cover system since they said it's similar to Gears, but I'm interested in the different concept they were talking about.
solidsnakus  +   2367d ago
midway LOL! the last good game they put out was NFL blitz for ps1
shovelbum  +   2367d ago
Yeah right and it plays worse than Blacksite: Area 51. I am not much of a fan of Midway but I did enjoy The Suffering.
ShinMaster  +   2367d ago
There ARE more games out there that look better than Gears 2.
That is nothing new.
Fishy Fingers  +   2368d ago
I'll hold off on the excitment until I see it with my own eyes. To many games are given unrealistic labels prior to public showing.
CloudsEnd  +   2368d ago
Better than Gears 2 but not even as good as Killzone 2.
The Matrix  +   2368d ago
This story might be believable except for the "midway" part.
Rob0g0rilla  +   2368d ago
"It's probably not due until 2010, and the same goes for the one I'm talking about."
Oh wow....

Current 2010 lineup

- Secret Midway game
- Cool Midway game?
- Final Fantasy XIII
- Final Fantasy XIII Versus

Keeps getting bigger. Can't forget another Madden game that swears it's so much better then the last one.
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Rock Bottom  +   2368d ago
Final Fantasy XIII Versus for 2010?

Make that 2011.
Mr PS3  +   2368d ago
It looks as good if not better than Gears 2
Well thats not Hard to Achieve

Come Back Gears when you got a game that looks half as good as Drakes Fortune never mind Metal Gear
Never mind BoTs
HateBoy  +   2368d ago
Lol @ blind person above me.
Gue1  +   2368d ago
I agree with Mr PS3.

quote from IGN of MGS4 for my friend @HateBoy:

"Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is a title that exceeds all of the hype that was attached to the title.

10 Graphics
Incredibly detailed and visually breathtaking, with amazing camera angles, MGS4 is one of the most beautiful titles ever made."

You seriously need to play uncharted on an HDtv @HateBoy because that game looks too good too...

Find me a quote like that for GeoW2 from a respectable website as IGN. 1up, gamepro, gamespot, gameinformer,
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Kill Crow  +   2368d ago
You're just jelous because
the game everyone wants to beat graphics wize is gears ...

I'm sure when someone beats the longest cut scene MGS4 will get a mention ....
morganfell  +   2368d ago
He isn't going to play any of those games because the truth would be too much to handle for him.

Before I even read Mr PS3's comments and I was looking at the headline and I was already thinking, "When it looks better than MGS4 give me a call."

It's like the moron above me that doesn't know that the cutscenes for MGS4 are in engine and move directly into game play. He also is unaware that the gameplay minus the cutscenes in MGS4 (interactive cutscenes for the most part) but the game play alone is around 20 hours. Twice as long as Gears 2.
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Bangladesh  +   2367d ago
I can't wait to see the spin you little Sony twerps put on your comments when Gears of War 2 takes Best Graphics at the VGA's.

On topic: First rule of marketing a game is don't openly compare your game to another from a different dev, let your game stand on it's own merits.

Here is what IGN,Gamespy, and ZTGD had to say about Gears 2 graphics.

"Fantastic looking characters inhabit splendid worlds that feel truly alive. You?d be hard pressed to find a better looking game anywhere"

"While it's certainly open to debate, we're going to go out on a limb and call Gears of War 2 the most visually impressive game yet made"

"One of the best looking games ever "
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BIoodmask  +   2368d ago
I have no faith in Midway after the travesty that is MK vs DC Universe. They have been on the verge of bankruptcy for years. The last game I remember enjoying from them is Hydro Thunder. That was probably about 10 years ago.
MK_Red  +   2368d ago
Come on, Psi-ops was awesome. Original Suffering was also not that bad. I'm with you on having no faith in Midway though.
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TheColbertinator  +   2368d ago
I agree with MK on that one.Psi-Ops was awesome.
ultimolu  +   2368d ago
If they can redeem themselves...okay.

But I wouldn't hype this yet.
El_Colombiano  +   2368d ago
Its not that hard...seriously speaking.
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thor  +   2368d ago
Have you tried?
El_Colombiano  +   2368d ago
You learn something new every day.
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Fishy Fingers  +   2368d ago
UE3 (Unreal Engine) is developed and owned by Epic. Not Midway.
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El_Colombiano  +   2368d ago
Wow so why does Midway use that engine on EVERY game they make!? So they are not related at all?!
Bazookajoe_83  +   2368d ago
Isnt midway epics publisher???
Or have i missthought?
Ju  +   2368d ago
Dunno how the UE3 license looks, but how I understand it, you get a source license. This means you can replace whatever you want in the engine. Mirror Edge for example replaced the lightning engine completely.

It, err, just frightens me if you need 600-700 people to make UE3 work...(or so he says).
SuperM  +   2368d ago
Midway publishes Unreal Tournament which has more or less been epics core game, atleast until they made gears of war. As the company that publish the game where unreal engine has its name from its not hard to imagine they have some relationship with epic and the engine.
Jamie Foxx  +   2368d ago
then ill take notice
rexor0717  +   2368d ago
bubble for you
El_Colombiano  +   2368d ago
MGS4 is the best looking game this year. It'll be near impossible!
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blacsheep  +   2368d ago
exactly,is the gaming media that corupt and bias
that they refuse to acknowledge mgs4 is the best looking game so far? gears 2 looks no different from gears 1, mgs4 wipes the floor with gears graphics but we all just sit back and accept bias comments not recognisin mgs4s graphically prowess

someone pleaserun a gears 2 mgs4 comparison so the blinded can finally see
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Richdad  +   2367d ago
I have a PS3 and MGS4 looks really good but Gears2 is equal or better at places its really not very big leap from 1st game but the environment are huge this time and the effects are much better and all this makes it much better than Gears1.
Play the act2 in Gears 2 and you will know the difference.
KarateExplosion  +   2367d ago
Mgs4 Isnt compared because
Mgs4 shouldnt be here yet. We shouldnt have see anything like that for another 2 years. Mgs4 can only be compared to other games ahead of their time.
Marquis_de_Sade  +   2367d ago
MGS4 has very impressive character models, but environment textures leave a lot to be desired at points in the game. Uncharted is the best looking game so far this generation in my opinion, followed by Gears 2/MGS4 as a tie.
heyheyhey  +   2368d ago
lol... ok Midway... you and what budget?
Magic_The_Celt  +   2368d ago
I rented gears 2.. played on my 40 inch LCD 1080p

the graphics are BAD, after the 10 second pop in that is, just crappy, textures are ugly, lighting is weird and unatural
El_Colombiano  +   2368d ago
UE3 sucks man. Its just that simple. I have no idea how anybody could expect amazing graphics with it. Pop-in like there is no tomorrow!
heyheyhey  +   2368d ago
really? i played at my friends house... and the game looks really good, but i'm not a fan of the generic UE3 look so il side with MGS4 as the best looking game this year... the post-processing isn't as good as Gears, but the diversity of the environments and the unique look is what clinches it... still, there's no denying Gears is a pretty amazing looking game
BUKKAKALYPSE  +   2368d ago
@Ali the Brit
Very funny comment. Everyone here knows you suck at gears, have yet to pass the first level on both games and are very , very biased against the franchise. The FACT of the matter is that Gears 2 is one of the best looking games on a console EVER. I would rank Gears 2 up there with MGS4, Uncharted (not saying its better looking that those so don't flame me) and obviously it's a visual upgrade from the first.

So you either need a better Tv as far as brand name goes (but I know you're poor because you're useless), tweak the settings on said Tv, wash the male reproductive fluid off of your glasses OR Stop writing stupid comments about great games that you can't seem to get the grasp of.

Bubbles for heyheyhey. Why? because like you he's more on the Sony side But, he is capable of writing a legit post
Magic_The_Celt  +   2368d ago
^ I dont need glasses, my TV is fine

it is my opinion that gears looks CRAP, all the reviewers and nerds in the world can scream at me that its one of the best looking games on co...blah blah blah

i dont care, it looks crap, i cant stand the unreal engine, produces the worst graphics out there easily.

and seriously man, i dont suck at it, you dont understand how much i detest that game, every bit of it, i actualy feel mad if i would have to play any more, id rather play any other game on earth that try and finish a gears game.

And yes, of course my opinion is baised.
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BUKKAKALYPSE  +   2368d ago
So basically
Your admitting that the game Is great looking in everyone's opinion but yours because you have so much hatred for the game you can't admit that the game looks as good as it does. There are a only a handful of games (some mentioned in my above post) that can match up with the graphics of Gears 2. All the Biased gears hating fanboy nerds (you to the T) can scream its looks like crap all they want but the FACT remains that it is a great looking game (also fun as hell if you're decent at shooters or video games in general). I suppose you would go as far as to say LBP looks better or something like that..look at the cut scene after you escape from inside the massive worm when everyone is covered in blood..looks pretty amazing to anyone who isn't stupid..oh wait you don't have the skill set required to make it that far!

you should really stick to lurking because this site needs less Pansy as$-know nothing-emotionally attached-multiple account using-bubble cheating- fanboys like you posting
Magic_The_Celt  +   2368d ago
^ Did you even read my post?

no you idiot, it looks crap, im saying i think the game in general is crap and thats my opinion

I couldnt be more honest when i say, looking at the gears of war 2 graphics they look terrible just terrible, choppy, crap textures, take ages to pop in ugh ugly mess is what it is

and actualy LBP, as well as gears 2, fallout 3 and MGS4 is nominated for graphics of the year on spike. so yeah i would say LBP looks better :) as does every over game ever made.

and no, it isnt fact, its opinion.
BUKKAKALYPSE  +   2367d ago
My god you're a tool. Your saying it looks bad because you hate and NOT BECAUSE IT JUST LOOKS BAD!!! are you mental? are YOU reading what you're writing??!! So Kevin Bacon wasn't in footloose because thats your opinion? fVck, get a clue man. The game looks awesome and you're just being a child about it. I don't like MGS4 all that much but do you see me bashing it in every thread saying it looks like the worst game ever? no. that's because even though it's not my thing I still respect what it took to make the game and can open my eyes and see it looks great. Man-up and stop being a fanboy douche and tell it like it is
n to the b  +   2366d ago
bubbles heyheyhey & BUKKAKALYPSE
oh and Ali_the_Brit... I mean, Magic_the_Celt... u must really hate this-gen because there are A LOT of games that use UE3. sucks to be u, I guess...
Redlight  +   2368d ago
We've made a great looking game...
Which no doubt sucks.
Chrissy  +   2368d ago

A secret game?? You mean like sony's awsome secret BBC game? Or as its known in the professional lingo '' a project that, in reality, really doesn't exist yet crafts the much needed false hype for an otherwise failing company/product''

Yup I heard that before:\ LOL atari, sony
NewYork214  +   2368d ago
its the new mortal kombat. they are done with mk vs. DC so now its on to the new one and we know they are using unreal 3.

im probably wrong
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ShiftyLookingCow  +   2368d ago
Didn't Area 51 look way better than Gears 1?
Kill Crow  +   2368d ago
and viva pinata
looks better than LBP
heyheyhey  +   2368d ago
@Kill Crow

oh so THAT'S why LBP is nominated for a GOTY Graphics award and Viva Pinata isn't... because VP looks better that LBP.... no wait

...that's reverse logic
ShiftyLookingCow  +   2368d ago
anybody who played Area 51 demo can attest to its graphical awesomeness over Gears 1. I still cant forget the rain that looked and felt like p!ss and the monsters that looked like turd snakes.
Venomish  +   2368d ago
Midway lol
what was the last great game they made .
GIJeff  +   2368d ago
is a great developer/publisher in a bad spot right now. Doesn't mean they can't rise again. Bunch of haters on this site....
NMC2007  +   2368d ago
Usually I would say something like "I will believe it when I see it" but since I won't see it I don't have to say it.
Rageanitus  +   2368d ago
Its not that difficult to beat out Gears 2
In terms of graphics nowadays, Just played it at a local Electronic store on a 50 inch Monitor and it is not that much better than the first one on Xbox.

After seeing all the previews and actually playing it makes you think they showed off a PC build Gears 2 on all the previews.

Gears 1 graphics on PC on highest detail is > gears 2 on xbox.

Unreal engine is getting kindov old and all Epic is doing is doing minor upgrades here and there... not saying its a bad engine just that its starting to show its age.
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xwabbit  +   2368d ago
Well they said better looking and that can be 100% true cus Gears of war was made with their Engine but we don't know if the game play will be good or the game it self lol. It may look better than gears but we don't know if it will actually be good.
LethalToxins  +   2368d ago
I recently read something, somewhere on the internet. I can't say much about it, but I can tell you it's at least as, or more interesting than this article.
Radiodread  +   2368d ago
thats not hard to believe
considering that UEIII visual qualtity is the best the 360 can achieve. Gears 2 is nothin special.
Shane Kim  +   2368d ago
In all honestly, Gears 2 is a good looking game, but to compare it to MGS4 and *cough* KZ2 is just lame. And I can't stand those shiny UE3 games.
SONYSLAVE  +   2367d ago
you forgot how god awful boring mgs 4 was the AI was horrible you call that the POWER OF TEH CELL???

ps3 fails if it hasnt why cant it get out of 3rd place by now!?
Shane Kim  +   2367d ago
Funny, you haven't even played the game yet you call it boring and have bad AI? I dare you to play on Big Boss Extreme and you won't even get pass the first two guards in the game.
DJ  +   2368d ago
Umm, a lot of games look better than Gears 2.
That's like saying "Our secret game looks better than Tomb Raider."
rbluetank  +   2368d ago
they are using UTE
i will rent to own.. i not wasting anymore money on UTEngine games anymore. i have a sack of "hits" in my 360 already...
name  +   2368d ago
I already know 2 currently released games that look better than gears 2.
truehunter  +   2368d ago
1st The biggest mistake was to say better then gears 2.
2nd they have lost alot of userbase liking the game.
3rd now gears 2 fan wont even look onto this game.
4th we gonna see massive drop sales mayb 50.1k in one week ??
Aclay  +   2368d ago
The only way that Midway's "secret game" is going to look better than Gears 2 is if it's on a Killzone 2 level because there's no game out on any console that looks as good as KZ2 does.

I'm guessing that Midway's secret game will be on all platforms, but it's going to be interesting to me to see if they can even pull anything more out of the 360, because literally the only developer that's really managed to pull potential out of the 360 is EPIC and EPIC themselves already said that they believed that the 360 was reaching it's limits but they also thought that there is a little bit of potential left...who knows, maybe Midway will be the developer to pull the rest of the potential out of the 360....but I doubt it.
Rekyyli  +   2368d ago
Actually this must be "The secret PS3 game!"

It´s game over for the 360.

Release date: [pending] Year of the PS3 confirmed.
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Gerard Way  +   2368d ago
Gears2 is all kinds of great but by 2010, i expected grander things for sure.
Also, i used to love Midway Games back in the day----but now, i say "f*ck that".
I guess time will tell.
The Desperado  +   2368d ago
Uhhh who the f*ck cares?
Try looking better than Killzone 2, or MGS4, or Littlebigplanet, or Uncharted, or Ratchet and Clank Quest for Booty, or WIpeout HD, or Resistance 2

All of those look better than Gears2, some by a F*CKING MILE.
creeture  +   2368d ago
360 still can't match those games in 3 years in the market
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