Gameplayer's soccer expert has finished a detailed side-by-side comparison of PES 2009 and FIFA 09. A self-confessed PES fanatic, he gives FIFA the nod for the first time, declaring Konami's effort a dud. This article links through to the PES side of the article.
"This is the season Konami has to turn it around. They've spent the past two years in cruise control, coasting along on past glories. But if it's a football cliché that if you stand still you end up going backwards, it's equally true in the fast-paced world of video games."
The epic fight between the two soccer giants Pro Evolution Soccer and FIFA has been going on for over 10 years now. Cynamite takes a look at the scores from both games and shows, at which point PES overtook the FIFA series.
PS1/PS2 - PES by far
360/PS3 - FIFA by far
I can't see that changing until the next generation of consoles.
Fifa 10 was good, but have you seen Fifa 11? NOt that much of a step up from 10. Pro Evo 2010 was not that good, but so far, what I've seen of Pro Evo 2011 blows anything and everything Fifa out of the water.
Pro Evo is back to reclaim the number 1 spot.
just because pes has improved alot over pes 10 dont mean much, its still the same robotic game it has been for a while. and if you have played fifa 10 then moved to 11 its improved on a lot on what was already a great game.
agreed, pes11 is an improvement on last yr but it still lags way behind fifa at this point.. all the same issues that make it bad are still their
pes was good till 2011
it's a fail - they tried to change the gameplay for good but they ruined it
It's a shame that people such as yourself are still stuck in the dark days, clinging onto the hope that PES will be what it once was.
I was a huge fan of PES back in the day - as big as you could get, really - and I still believe that PES 5 and 6 are the best football games of all time. But I played the PES 2011 demo and deleted it after two games, because it's just horrible. Passing is decent, but that's about it; the player movement still borders on robotic, shooting is way too floaty and the presentation is mediocre.
If you really believe that the 'King' is back, then you must have a very short memory. PES this generation has absolutely nothing on the old games, nor does it have anything on FIFA this gen either; its rival is superior in almost every way.
It's actually a step down, they ruined the Fifa 10 formula and this is coming from a Fifa player. Am not a PES fan so i really don't know if the new one is good or not. My angle is the fact that EA messed up Fifa 11, i have spoken to many diehard fifa fans that feel the same way. Some are considering to just stick with 10 and see what 12 is like.
FIFA 11 is superior to FIFA 10 in practically every way, without a doubt. I find it laughable that anyone could think any different.
FIFA 10 was a great game, but it had way too many flaws. FIFA 11 is a much more refined experience, and is all the better for it.
2000 - 2005 -> PES dominated since the PS1 days but then it came PES 2006 it was a major letdown
2006 - NOW -> Fifa started to show its quality on this current gen and it evolved year after year while PES was still way behind.
A shame that games like "This is football" just vanished during the PS2 days
pes2011 is much different from any next gen pes, this is really a huge improvement
Its funny to read or talk to the FIFA fanboy they cant accept the true and hate PES.
If you go to the FIFA forums they talk Bs. About pes and they hate it.
In the Pes forums they respect Fifa and many will be getting the two and we aré confidente that PES11 is better and the kind is back
With the current World Cup coverage all around the world, CoffeewithGames takes a look at the play-time data for some Wii soccer(or football) games.
CwG says about FIFA Soccer 10, "FIFA Soccer 10 was released on October 20, 2009, and the data was collected approximately 252 days after it released."
In another section CwG says, "FIFA Soccer 10 has 7,698 players reporting data."
CwG also shows the data for Mario Strikers Charged, Pro Evolution Soccer 2009, and FIFA Soccer 09 All-Play.
any of the games shown? If so, would you recommend them to others?
I have played Mario Strikers Charged and thought it was a lot of fun, reminded me A LOT of NHL Hitz.
Also, anybody that keeps up with soccer(or football) know if there is a "favored" team to win the World Cup out of the teams that are still in it?
Boomtown writes: "No rivalry in the world of gaming is fiercer than the one between competing football franchises. It almost mirrors the strength of feeling people have for their club. Crossing the divide to support another franchise is a relatively rare occurrence. There are two major derby matches in the football gaming calendar and they feature a bitter enmity which has built up over the last few years. The first is Pro Evolution versus FIFA and the second is Championship Manager versus Football Manager."
is pretty generous. it's a utter crap to say the truth. FIFA09 the undisputed king of footie games, no more, no less.
We can only conclude from this reviewer that PES should loose the awesome AI, Ball physics and gameplay to be the same crap as FIFA 09.
Then give PES a 7.5 (maybe because PES mistake is to exists).
Are this guys blind or try to make the others stupid.
I have PES 2009 for my PS3 and it's alot better than PES 2008, a massive improvement in fact. The gameplay is alot smoother, there is no slowdown or framerate issues and I now have all the edited kits thanks to an improved editing system. I havent played FIFA 09 but it does not look better than PES 2009. Many of my friends who have played FIFA 2009 claim it is not that good.
EDIT: Ok Oyster man you got me there. But I'll tell you this, I've been playing soccer games from day one and every real football fan knows that PES is the real deal. You dont even have to play FIFA to find this out these days. The main slip up was last years PES 2008 - I waiting to see an improvement which I have with 2009. I never said that the reviewers claims were bull. I just said that he's talking bull if he says that PES 2009 is not good because it is.
I dont care what anyone says, as long as Konami dont ever go back to making poor versions of PES like they did with the 2008 edition, I and many other will always see PES as the top soccer game. I'm too used to the gameplay and I just find it better than any other soccer game.
EA.for making an awesome soccer sim.Is absolutly beautiful and is a dream to play.Im sorry Konami,you need to get some MGS devs to jump start ur thinking and be more revolutionary.,Fifa08 was better than Pes08. And Fifa09 kicks PES 2009S ass.
PES has been crap for a few years. It's like they never managed to catch up with 360/PS3 gaming. EA have actually done a lot to improve FIFA, PES is the same as 3 years ago.