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Sony's Failed Attempt to Create a Mario out of Sackboy.

Iran White writes:

The truth about this game is that while it has some flaws, it is remarkably well put together. It is the type of effort that you would expect from Nintendo. While it's not exactly revolutionary, it is very solid and intriguing. Not to mention that the characters are as cute and lovable as can be. The graphics on the game finally truly hit that "Pixar quality" that we were promised from the PS2 as well.

Sounds like the makings of a game changer for Sony doesn't it? In fact, Sony fanboys have long hailed Little Big Planet as a "System Seller" for the PS3, the Youtube of console gaming, and crowned lovable little Sackboy as the Successor of Mario. But yeah, it's just as you're probably thinking. It's not happening, nor will it.

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Wildarmsjecht3318d ago

Thank you "Wii r in control".com for your ....i dunno what to say..input? I guess that best describes this...article.

chaosatom3318d ago

HONESTLY, This guy hasn't touched LBP. Or else he wouldn't be talking.

Hydrolex3318d ago

In my mind, Sackboy > Mario that old ugly man with a big belly that cannot run

Sackboy is so cute !! Even girls like sackboy more than Mario !

MURKERR3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

nintendo will beg sony,sackboy is the mario for the new generation due to nintendo failing to be the ambassador for mascots in the new generation, nintendo are stagnant right now

lbp is a new ip its revolutionary its without guns,its cute so obviously living in a hardcore generation people are weary but sales will increase on a weekly basis purely by word of mouth

MUNKYPOO3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

the guy who wrote the article says he would give it a 9.5. all he is saying is its not selling like it should be. i agree with him, sony should have advertised lbp more or something to put this game out there. this game really has so much potential only if people knew about this game.

ThanatosDMC3318d ago

Poor advertising. But who knows, it might suddenly explode when the holidays come. Also, i noticed in electronic store that they're not showing LBP. They're showing Gears 2.

Seraphim3317d ago

"It is the type of effort that you would expect from Nintendo..." fanboys to write an article like this because they wish they had LBP on their console...

Honestly though where does Sony fit into this again? I mean other than having this game exclusively on the PS3? Because last I checked Media Molecule was founded by former Lionhead employees and is an independent studio.... Unless of I course missed the news clip that Sony actually purchased the company... Awful title...

When it comes to sales, trying to say it would definitely have sold much better on the Wii at this point in time. Speculation. But they do make a good point about tossing it in with every console sold. One problem though, that's the kind of thing you do after the Holidays are over or once sales start to decline enough. You let the sales climb over the Holidays and after the Holidays you offer a package PS3 w/ LBP. But why give away the game when you can bank on sales now and then make it into a juggernaut once the drought hits....

BobDog3317d ago

maybey alot of people are like me, with r2, l4d etc coming out they cant buy everything

Saigon3317d ago

what proof do we have that this game is not selling well??? Please give me proof....when NPD comes out I expect low numbers because it officially released at the end of the month...so what proof do you have...

SL1M DADDY3317d ago

So I can give him props for that but I think it is a little early in the game to decide the fate of sack boy. Perhaps Sony will release some killer ads this holiday season but IMHO, Sony does not thrive on a single game but would rather add a great game like this to their library and then advertise that library as a whole. Rather than growing a console reputation on a single game, Sony has been known to grow that console on a quality library that spans many genre and hits up a larger target audience.

SaiyanFury3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

Yes. You heard it here people. The famous and unbiased authors from the website "WiiRInControl.com" have spoken. Maybe Sackboy isn't a Mario-killer. The little guy wasn't intended to be, nor was he intended to compete. The whole concept was aimed at bringing more casual gamers over to Sony's side and enjoying the PS3 experience. No one could unseat Mario as a videogame icon, that's just a simple fact. Sackboy trying to be the new Mario? I doubt it. Trying to be a beacon to more casual gamers out there looking for a great HD experience with some creativity and innovation? Why the hell not? We enjoy LBP, why shouldn't other people?

Montrealien3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

Wildarmsjecht and the other captain obviouses, there are 126 positive sony/MS stories on sony/MS sites left for you to go remind us that they may have positive stories on the product they pimp. You have a long day ahead of you...

How about disussing why Sack boy is not hitting a cord like Mario Is? Mario Kart is still selling like hotcakes months after release, will LBP do the same? I enjoy LBP, but I don't think it will have the lasting appeal of the MArio franchise. But that's just me, I know, I know, god forbid we speak of such things...

TheUsedVersion3317d ago

Bubbles for Seraphim just for putting that quote together to say what it should have said in the first place.

Montrealien3317d ago

I think the point the "enthusiast" author of this article was attempting to make is that sony is trying to create a mascot like Mario for the PS3 out of Sack boy, and to him, it has failed up until now. Don't you guys think that Sony would want a household name out of Sack boy, like mario is?

GarandShooter3317d ago

Mario is different, being a character in arcade games, prior to the console boom. But I will ask, in three weeks after his offical introduction to the world, was he on top?

So everybody expects Sackboy in 3 weeks to undue 30 years of Mario?

And there are those among us who would consider that expectation realistic?

butterfinger3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

I don't recall Sony telling everyone that they were releasing a Mario-killer. I do recall people comparing Sackboy to Mario, and saying that he was better in almost everyway, but I didn't catch the Sony press release. Sony, however, may have found themselves a new mascot. I also, don't understand how this game has been selling so "terribly" when nearly every person on my friends list is playing it (20 people). I've never had so many friends playing the same game at once. Thank you Media Molecule, for reminding us that hardcore games can be fun again:)

jaysquared3317d ago

"Sony does not thrive on a single game but would rather add a great game like this to their library and then advertise that library as a whole. Rather than growing a console reputation on a single game, Sony has been known to grow that console on a quality library that spans many genre and hits up a larger target audience"

Wait I thought LBP was suppose to be a system seller? I thought it was suppose to move so much PS3s last month that there will be a shortage of PS3s? Funny because a month ago every PS3 fanboy on this site were all saying how LBP will help overtake the PS3 over the 360. Now all the PS3 fan sounded like they ate a piece of humble pie.

The problem with LBP is that its on the PS3... Seriously I know there a lot of girly PS3 fans(specially in this site) but this game was made for little kids which makes up less than 1% of PS3 owners. If this game was on the Wii it would be selling like hot cakes. If this game was on the 360 it would sell a lot better than the PS3 but not as good as the wii. Everybody knows 90% of wii owners are probably under the age of 16.. Its too bad this game flopped as far sales but did receieve excellent scores. Sony should just release this on the Wii they need the money anyways..

prowiew3317d ago

I think I agree with him in some way. To me, this game is never gonna be at mario level. But you cant compare them. They are different games. Ive played lbp and I didnt like it, not my cup of tea. And to me lbp is more for hardcore players, especially the online and making levels part.
ps: for the record ive played lbp for 1 day only. Time is killing me, trying to play fallout, fable, gears, resistance and lbp. So my opinion is for one day only playtime.

PopEmUp3317d ago

you would know what games to get for her this Christmas to enjoy it with you, don't you?

Wildarmsjecht3317d ago

Simply offering my thanks for the articles input doesnt seem to be relating to how many hundreds of articles relating to the ps3 in a positive light there are. I'm just saying thanks.
Is that not allowed? The article has some points I agree with and others I don't. The need for you to point out what the front page has seems alittle tired. Whats your point of that?

Montrealien3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

Just like you, I have no point, there is no point of having a (point) here on N4G.

phosphor1123317d ago

I think they are just jealous to be honest...LBP is a game that should be praised. It isnt REVOLUTIONARY but in a sense, its just revolutionary (no caps this time). Nothing has ever been like LBP ever, and MM did a great wonder with it.

agmsd3317d ago

Actually I didn't like this game, I've just played it continuously for 32 straight hours without sleep first time I got my hands on it. I don't know why?!. :P

ravinash3317d ago

Your saying that this game is aimed at little kids....guess that means you've never played it.
I enjoy playing it, and the people I know who have a PS3 enjoy it as well....and guess what....we're over 30.
The great this about this game is it open to what you make of it and theres enough in there to keep you entertained no matter what your age.
but I guess you don't understand family games....then point is there something in there for everyone.
not every game needs guns and blood and guts.

rbanke3317d ago

For the purposes of this conversation, lets assume that Sony is trying to recreate Mario.

Who was lining up to play mario the second week that 'super mario bothers' was released? It took YEARS for the mario franchise to become what we know.

MUNKYPOO3317d ago

show me proof that this game is selling like hot cakes. all im saying is this game should be selling a lot more. we should have articles saying lbp has sold 3 mil in 2 weeks or more.

Bubble Buddy3317d ago

I think the people there got bored of SSMB. Lol, what games do they have to look forward to in the holidays? Wii Music anybody?
PS3 and 360 is the way to go.

hitthegspot3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

The writer has a point. I have a 360 and a Wii. I was in Gamestop this weekend. My 8YO said, "dad I want that new game with the bag guy.", ??? Oh. You mean Sack Boy. Ya yelled my 8YO and then grabbed the game off the shelf. I told him look at what system the game is for. Truth be told that if the game was available on the Wii or the 360 for that mater then it would be in my collection at home. If Sony was to have a price drop then I would consider LBP more, but I can not justify one $60 game + a $400 system for an 8YO where if it was on a system that was targeted for that age group it would be a no brainer. No fanboyism there.

xhairs93317d ago

It has almost absolutely nothing to do with the advertising considering sony has not advertised much period. The ONLY problem I see causing LBP's rise to fame being so slow is the fact that it was released in the middle of MULTIPLE games. At $60 a game it's no wonder it didn't sell good. LBP is a 10/10 hands down the problem is that Resistance 2, Guitar Hero World Tour, Rock Band 2 etc. etc. For those who want all these other games they're going to have to drop a game or two...I know I did, I had to drop LBP & Bioshock for all the game released this month.

When Sony left us high and dry after MGS4 they should have rethought their releasing. We had 2 - 4 months of gameless days in which we could all only play the games we'd already been playing for awhile. And then within 3 weeks they want to push 7 or 8 games down our throats which we don't all have the money for. The only other thing I can think of that stopped me from getting LBP was the delay caused by the Kuran. I would have got it when it released but when given the extra week and the long wait that preceded it, I just had to get something else. What they needed to do was drop a game or two about two - three months ago and LBP would have sold like hot cakes.

Mini Mario3317d ago

"lbp is a new ip its revolutionary its without guns,its cute so obviously living in a hardcore generation people are weary but sales will increase on a weekly basis purely by word of mouth"

Its kinda ironic really because these same attributes....:-

"..its revolutionary its without guns,its cute .."

....are generally the things fanboys bag wii games out for. U know not having "guns" (coz a good game always has guns), "cute" (o yea uve always praised the wii's games for being cute),..and the game is simple/casual.....yeh u never bag wii games for those attributes.

Very hypocritical

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chaosatom3318d ago

SONY wasn't trying to create Mario.

They were trying to support creativity and innovation.

PoSTedUP3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

but if you want,,, you CAN create mario!

mesh13318d ago

major flop solod 400k goes to show the amount of trolling sony fanboys do on the net has no impact you cant turn a a 2d lvl designer game into a block buter lnp wont return again they flopped

PoSTedUP3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

lol, you talk funny.

are you trying to communicate with us or something?

@ below- yea i herd about that, but i can still create a mario level though, just cant put it online. and i didn't disagree with you either, here, heres an agree and a bubble : )

Raz3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

@ PoSTedUP:

No, you can't create Mario. Not if you want to submit it online. It'll get deleted for copyright infringement...depending on when the mods get around to it. They're a little busy killing other levels that don't meet the guidelines. I'm not totally sorry about that - I just wish it applied to the Trophy whores who lazily throw something together in an otherwise blank level. That crap shouldn't last 24 hours, IMHO.

But I digress. I really just wanted to say that I don't know who Iran White is, and didn't read the article beyond the clipping (because wiirincontrol.com seems to take about 3 hours to load - applause). I don't really care what this person thinks about LBP, or understand why he thinks his opinion is so definitive.

But I do get a certain tingly rush of pleasure in publicly stating that his article amounts to a steamy, feculent pile of human waste. Ahh...that felt good.

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Expy3318d ago

Did he just call it "Big Planet"?

MidnightProwler3318d ago

Oh no he di'nt! *snaps fingers*

Hydrolex3318d ago

fuk that old fat ass piece of sh1t !

SACKBOY FTW !!!

Grimlock3318d ago

Lets see...

You got a "tough-cool" name like HYDROLEX..
Got a Wanna be GANGSTER rapper :The Game" AVATAR...
You Think "your-tough" for saying "FUK MARIO"

and yet u end it with.."SACKBOY FTW!!"

Me Grimlock says: Get your wanna-be-gangster-internet-thu g-game-kock-suckin-weak-ass-sac k-boy-humpin-sticker-lovin-ass- out of here...

Come to OAKLAND,Ca..and get your WIG split biotch!!

ambientFLIER3318d ago

Hydrofag needs one less bubble to be a truly great contributor on this website. Why don't we help him.

rekonizakilla3317d ago

Ambient flier needs one more pube to be able to contribute on this site, so if you know his address please send it to me and I'll gladly cut some of mine off for him. I promise i wont wash them.

Sir_Ken_Kutaragi3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

Who gives a F**K what this NOBODY thinks???
Er i DON'T!!! ;)

LBP ia BRILLIANT!!! ;) That's all you need to know!

-
The 'Wii' bores me!!!
The 'xBox 360' bores me!!!
;-D

Stubacca3317d ago

LittleBigPlanet is a phenomenon. It's gonna only get bigger. I built a working podracer and bi-plane before lunch. Regardless of what console you play, you can at least acknowledge how brilliant it is, you must have friends who have it!

Get over it. LBP is a PS3 game and it'll rock your socks off if you give it a go...

CyberSentinel3317d ago

Shame it is not selling better. LBP is what Viva Pinata SHOULD of been, only with creatable 3D worlds. Maybe if sony made LPB bundles, or put a demo on PSN or included a playable/video dvd demo (for cost purposes) in with each system, it might improve sales, without increasing cost.

All fanboism aside, I would like to see this type of game exceed.

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Durffen3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

Normally I wouldn't approve or report this because I just think it's another article attacking other consoles, but I like this site and I would love to see the reaction of all the moronic biased PS3 fanboy's who call Wii owners kiddies but have a little stuffed animal for their avatar.

Can't wait for the disagrees and minus bubbles from the Rising Biased.

Wildarmsjecht3318d ago

"Normally I wouldn't approve or report this because I just think it's another article attacking other consoles, but I like this site and I would love to see the reaction of all the moronic biased PS3 fanboy's who call Wii owners kiddies but have a little stuffed animal for their avatar. "

You say you wouldn't approve or report an article that is attacking other consoles, yet you have no qualms against labeling people "moronic biased ps3 fanboys"

Your logic is such win /sarcasm

Durffen3318d ago

Eh, to be honest, I would normally always approved this stuff. But after reading a bunch of comments on the many different articles on N4G, I figured I might as well just insult the fanboy's as much as I can.

I have no problem if someone prefer's a console and such, I mean to each his/her own and I completely respect that, but seriously, anytime I read a 360 or Wii article, someone is instantly in their bashing that console. Even in PS3 articles people bash other consoles for no reason.

And don't even bother with reviews. If someone gives a PS3 game a bad review, it's the biggest more bs site ever, and the reviewer should commit suicide. Rarely anyone on this site has a respect for an opinion, and if you dislike a game someone on this site likes, then you must be a fanboy to a different console.

Baba19063318d ago

its the same with nintendo and xbox fans. its just like this with all kind of fans in all kind of branches. but if that makes u sad and aggresiv than i guess you have a "muh" point. i think it is a cows opinin, it just doesnt matter.

ChickeyCantor3318d ago

" I figured I might as well just insult the fanboy's as much as I can."

Exactly how i feel.
Even trying to be polite or whatever, there is no point because people will take your bubbles or disagree without reason anyway.
So what is the point in being nice?

And just trying to reason with them, in their eyes, you are the fanboy >_<.

"If someone gives a PS3 game a bad review, it's the biggest more bs site ever, and the reviewer should commit suicide"

Although it goes to all gamers, it is true.

But that's N4G for ya, the only reason i'm coming back here is because the input of articles/news is great, other than that the comment page is a mess.

RememberThe3573317d ago

N4G has a large number of PS3 fanboys in it, we all know that. But, why do you act like theres something wrong with that? Go to any other site that isn't PS oriented and anything PS is shat on all day. It's pathetic. So stop whining about PS fanyboys, especially when for the last three year xbox fanboys have been spouting off about how they loath the PS3. They're fanboys what exactly do you expect.

snp3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

Trouble with your argument is you target one segment for this behaviour but not another. Owning a PS3 and following PS3 threads for the most part i can assure you there are more than a few guaranteed anti-PS3 trolls in each of them - whether it be Gears of War 1/2 folk prowling Resistance 2 review threads (point you to dozens and dozens of such posts right now if you'd like?), or like yourself here anti-LBP folk looking for anything and everything to sling from a pretty clearly silly early-out-the-gate bit of journalism (or threads with anti-Motorstorm folk, or 'x version of such and such looks better than on PS3' folk or... you name it.. All the usual's .).

The place is generally unpleasant in that way, but it's unpleasant in all directions - hell a quick at look at this thread (not to mention it's very existence) shows a few characters with very few bubbles already stirring where they can.

Frankly on that front if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem. Cries that you are 'swamped' and implications that you've been 'driven to acting like a troll by the imbalance of PS3 fanboys' are nonsense.

As for this article.. I love Mario, but much character he ain't got (and i own a Wii, for what it's worth). He's got some distinctions in terms of game mechanics and colour use, and some fun - if a bit generic - settings, but interpersonally is as dead eyed as a statue. LBP wasn't developed as a 'Mario killer' (though what it becomes it's a little bit early to declare given the damn thing's only been out a week). It was a small development houses title funded on the side that got people interested - and created word of mouth amongst the gaming set (whether broader market comes on board, time will tell) - to the point where it's importance to Sony in their current situation was progressively elevated with each showing.

That's the order - a little project that become 'bigger' because of it's continually excellent reception, not something that was designed and expected to be 'huge' and a 'Mario killer' from the outset (unless maybe in the sense that everyone logically would love their games to be massive, of course).

ChickeyCantor3317d ago

"Cries that you are 'swamped' and implications that you've been 'driven to acting like a troll by the imbalance of PS3 fanboys' are nonsense."
Then tell me, what is the point in being "nice" if you get sh/t in your face either way?

We all know once you go the same direction you aren't helping anything, however pointing it out can't do any damage.
There wouldn't be any need to act like a troll to balance stuff out, if "trolls" were rational and more reasonable/open to your opinion or whatever.

DaTruth3317d ago

After years of people saying video games are for kidsand acting like we're losers for playing them, everybody and their grandma goes out and buys the kiddiest system on the market, while we play games that kids can't play(mature). We have a right to slag on the bandwagon jumpers.

snp3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

"Then tell me, what is the point in being "nice" if you get sh/t in your face either way?"

Pride. Self respect. The knowledge that you, at least, are contributing to a civil - and hopefully useful - discourse. One less in the noise side of signal/noise equation bringing down the site.

The real question is the opposite. Why would someone 'choose' to become/do something they supposedly deplore? There's no more 'immediate reward' being 'nasty' than there is 'nice'. It just sounds like spleen (source of most trolling) - and more than a dose of hypocrisy - to me.

"We all know once you go the same direction you aren't helping anything, however pointing it out can't do any damage."

This isn't really pointing it out, though. It's - self confessed - sh=t stirring in this case - ie. the problem overriding one more person's set of thought's/comments.

"There wouldn't be any need to act like a troll to balance stuff out, if "trolls" were rational and more reasonable/open to your opinion or whatever."

There'll always be people who aren't rational at any given time. I've posted a few things here - though not, perhaps as many as i would if it weren't quite as moronic as it gets at times. I've had a few people reply with the typed equivalent of a yell or finger from a passing car. It's not nice, but.. meh. Others - for and against what i've said - have been fine.

Spleen venting is spleen venting imo. If someone chooses to troll - humourlously (people having a lend are obnoxious, but a little different) - than they're, by definition, a troll at that point of time. "I didn't want to have to but.. " The bit after 'but' is so much blah, blah, blah.

titntin3317d ago

SNP - you are completely right of course.

The kind of lame excuses that sidar or durffen give for acting like trolling idiots are simply that - poor excuses.

"I despise people for carrying knifes on the street so I'm going to carry a knife on the street so I can stab em when I meet them."
The above statement is exactly what they are saying:
"I despise the kind of troll replies on this site, so I'm going to be a trolling moron".
You really couldn't get any more pathetic. These people should simply accept they are trolling fools like most of the crowd here, as their attempts to justify their behavior only show how little intellect they actually posses.

As for the article, I'd suggest waiting a bit before analyzing sales figures. The game was withdrawn from retail remember, so its certainly not been available for 3 weeks. Here in the UK its not even been available for a full week, so sales figures are not even close to being accurate.

ChickeyCantor3317d ago

@^

Where did i say [I WILL] act like a troll because they are ?
What i meant was that i UNDERSTAND why people go in trolling mode against these trolls.

My question is Why should we be nice if their are trying sh/t in your face anyway?

@SNP,
It's the internet why should anyone put up pride and self respect?
right?...right? or am i smoking "fanboy" logic?

We all want a a civil, respectful discussion. But these people really get on your nerves and you just fight "fire" with "fire", cause there is no point in trying to be reasonable since they will throw sh/t in your face anyway. So when people feel frustrated because of that, with a last attempt they are going to try and get their point across.
on the same "level" of the troller himself.
Not saying its helping, but you have to understand that durffen is frustrated because of all the nonsensical contradictions coming from these fanboys.

And the fact that he at least made some good points.

potenquatro3317d ago

Call it immature and whatever you want, but trolling in n4g piss people off. the problem isn't really the trolling. It's the retards that have a million accounts with a million bubbles each, and then alot of people with rational comments only having one bubble. It's like the mods are lazier then LIVE's mods. I'm not even a 360 fan, i'm more of a PC fan, and the trolling from the PS3 side even reach the PC section. The only reason I come back here is cause PC players actually help each other, and cause they report on every game on N4g and that's the cool thing about this site. Trolling is bad and there is no excuse, but I understand why people get mad. I find myself ashamed sometimes of owning a 360 and PS3. The thought that I might be gaming online with these idiots.....

@remeberthe357: Well, why don't PS3 fantards go to an all ps3 site or a PS oriented site and leave the people who are intrested in all types of gaming alone. This is a gaming site after all. This isn't a PS3 site, so maybe it's them that are out of place. Fanbois don't stick to Sony sites because it's preaching to the coire. They want to "convert people" like some religous nut.

LethalToxins3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

"Why should we be nice if their are trying sh/t in your face anyway?"

Titntin's logic was actually fairly sound. However, since you didn't get it, I'll change his wording a little...

You may as well be saying, guys who don't beat their girls get dumped, so I'm going to beat mine. You've got a shot of it happening either way, right? A good one, too. Nice guys finish last...or so they say.

Or try, "Good people go to jail, so I'm going to be a murderer, because either way, I'll get shyt on anyway."

Choosing to be obnoxious because if you act that way or not, you'll get it in return makes no sense and solves nothing. It's just the definitive quality of a weak mind. Don't follow the masses. Be you and let the haters hate. They are everywhere, after all. I think it's funny when I get a hater, I'm up to two now. Lol...

ChickeyCantor3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

No no,
I did get it, i was Explaining myself.

And you are actually taking stuff to an extreme level.
It's internet we are talking here...

You could at least understand Durffens reaction, cauze basically it's how i feel but [I] never said {I] will go into troll mode

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