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Where Was the Editor on this One?

Kotaku writes: "This is a terrible trailer. We've all been over the morality discussion of World War II games, or any game that simulates an actual war in which real people we know fought. For this genre, that hard rock accompaniment to Call of Duty: World at War's launch trailer is atrocious, and I certainly hope it's not going out on television (where the trailer is much better). "NO RULES?" Is this a UFC montage? "NO FEAR?" What, we're reducing World War II to a rear-window sticker in a white trash lowrider? Where's Calvin pissing on Japan?"

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Timesplitter143485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

I have to agree with Kotaku for once (eeewwwww...). This is ridiculous. With this trailer, the devs look like a bunch of kids who think war is cool, and that the germans were nothing more than dead meat.

Old Snake3485d ago

Get a grip. If you haven't forgotten this is a game, just like GTA and other countless games with violence. They can't have make a game that is serious?

Timesplitter143485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

I firmly believe that no one on Earth believes games are reality, except those who have serious mental illnesses. But that doesn't mean I can't think the ideas shown in the game are completely stupid.

What I hate about this trailer is that it's as if they were trying to say that all germans are evil and the manly americans just went there to kick their asses, and it was all very cool.

IdleLeeSiuLung3485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

People really need to get over these things... Why do we always have to be constantly politically correct or sensitive? These days you can't say or do anything before you are critisized to death!

It is even worse, when these things apply to media....

It is like the whole debacle with Resistance and the Churc or LBP and the song. It is a frickin game!!!

TheDude2dot03485d ago

I don't see how this is different than any other crappy, overdramtic trailer for a shooting game.

Akiira3485d ago

@1.4 its different because this is based on real events and those events are being skewed and changed like alot of history is, which is wrong.

TheDude2dot03484d ago

Every game is based off of real life in some way. That's no excuse to whine about a trailer's poor attempt to be BA.

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cyclindk3485d ago

When will there be a WWII game where you can play as the Germans and Japanese in their respective campaigns; games should represent history as it happened not just one side of a story, that's completely childish.

If playing as the Nazis needed a moral aspect, you could play as one of the ignorant foot soldiers who happens across all the same atrocities the higher-ups were responsible for committing. It's not like every single soldier was some anti-semitic biggot masterminding the holocaust. The same goes for the Japanese.

El_Colombiano3485d ago

Now that, that right there, would be a must have game.

Timesplitter143485d ago

Agreed. That would be awesome, and would give the game the possibility of having a great storyline (better than the average WW2 game at least)

cyclindk3485d ago

Finally, clear-minded free-thinking people...what a relief. Everyone keeps talking about how there's nothing left to do in a WWII game that hasn't already been done! There's only every single battle of WWII from the German, Japanese and Italian (had to include them) perspectives...

Imagine playing out the initial Blitz Krieg plan and finally being halted at Stalingrad in Russia, THAT would be epic.

Parapraxis3485d ago

It's a good idea in principle, but probably wouldn't float.
It would offend too many people.

Timesplitter143485d ago

Well... yeah I agree that some people will be offended.

I just think these people are stupid :

''Kill the germans? Hellz yeah! Hard-Rock with slow-mo kills!''
''Kill americans? No... that's just wrong...''

Parapraxis3485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

again we agree Timesplitter14.

Unfortunately it's often the "stupid" people who make a big scene, especially in regards to more violent video games.

Smart people realize that it's a game, proper parenting is a must, teaching your child history from multiple perspectives is a wise thing to do, and it's part of the past, people and countries have changed greatly.

Stupid people scream at the images and write to their congessman, or call Fox "news" (double entendre lol)

Bathyj3485d ago

I've been saying that pretty much since the first MoH game came out on PSOne but it will never happen.

All Nazis are evil didn't you know and killing good ol boys just isn't done. Hell they're aren't even games where you kill Japanese, (maybe there has been, but not common) because we dont want to offend Japanese. We only want to offend Germans.

pilotpistolpete3485d ago

It's a bit hypocritical, that's for sure.

I can just imagine how Germans feel about the whole evil Nazi scenario most games take. Remember Wolfentein?

I do believe that this is one of the reasons Germany has a very strict ban and restriction on games. Anyone who played 80's games knows that nazi were often the enemy.

Imagine now playing as a a soldier taking down some americans in Cuba, Vietnam, etc. Taboo, for sure, but isn't it insensitive to label Nazi as evil?

Parapraxis3485d ago

"isn't it insensitive to label Nazi as evil? "
umm...not really.
But it IS insensitive to label Germans as evil.

pilotpistolpete3485d ago

So you think that everyone that was in the nazi party is evil? Maybe you need to talk to some old WW2 vets from germany. I'm sure they won't kill you if you come close to them.

Parapraxis3485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

I know several German famalies, Nova Scotia is loved by many Germans.
Your statement was rediculous.
There is a difference between those who willingly enrolled with the Nazi party because they actually believed the message was "good", and then those who ended up being forced into the life of a soldier for the Nazi regime.
The Nazi goal was evil, as is that of Al Qaeda and other groups.
Next you'll tell me we should be more considerate for Neo-Nazis and KKK clan members...because you know, some of them just ended up in those groups.
War is not viewed in the respects of each individual combattant, it is viewed in respects to the leaders, their parties and the goals and ideals they contain.

oh and don't put words in my mouth, I never said everyone that was in the nazi party is evil.

ChickeyCantor3485d ago

op,

Now that's exactly what i keep telling my friends.
These war games are like freaking "propaganda".
It makes me realize that these games are just made for americans.
Let's be honest here.

SL1M DADDY3485d ago

Would be ripped apart by the media and trashed before it even launched. Not that I care but let's be honest here, they were called the axis of evil for a reason and showing compassion to the Nazi army because some folks feel there were a few good soldiers in Hitlers army would more than likely go over like a lead block. Try to explain to the millions of relative to the millions of Jews that Hitler had his army of "good Nazis" kill that you feel a game that depicts the Nazis as "good folks" and I can imagine you will need a rag to wipe the spit off your face faster than you can say "I'm sorry".

It's just more popular to fantasize the Allied powers than the Axis powers. Sorry, but that is the truth of it.

Elven63485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

This would be controversial for gaming at least, movies already portray this subject (My favorite being Stalingrad). The fact is their are idiots in this world who do indeed think ALL Nazi/Germans of this era were "evil" when in reality their were people like Oskar Schindler in the ranks who are the complete opposite of the stereotype.

The game would require too much back story, explanation about conscription (I believe before Hitler came to power the German army was 10K strong, after with conscription it was over 5 million), etc which probably won't go well in a game.

IF such a game is made it would need to be more than Call of Duty, it would need to be character driven like Brothers in Arms to TRY and justify itself. Again I highly doubt such a think will be attempted because of the Fox news's of the world and those who refuse too understand the message of the game.

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Parapraxis3485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

The words in the trailer sound like something a general would say to his troops.
I don't see what the big deal is.
The Kotaku kids need to grow up.

EDIT: to the disagreers, in what way would you propose promoting a war game?

War isn't pretty, it's harsh, brutal and unkind. Soldiers are trained not to think or be emotional.

You can't second guess when hesitation can lead to your own death.

Maybe the makers of this trailer were trying to convey that reality. Has anybody asked them? Will they bother?

It looks like the trailer was very effective in making people FEEL uncomfortable, and guess what, war isn't comfortable.

Timesplitter143485d ago

Generals need to grow up.

No rules? No mercy? So basically they're telling the soldiers they can kill the civilians?

No fear? You can't tell people to have no fear. Fear just happens by itself, wether you want it or not. And just read WW2 stories from veterans. Everyone was afraid.

I always find it funny that generals and soldiers are often religious. What happened to ''thou shall not kill'' or ''whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.''?

Hypocrisy or stupidity. That's what happened. And I'm atheist. I'm not trying to promote Jesus here.

Parapraxis3485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

I agree with you in every respect.
However, it's the method in which they work.

They have to tell the soldiers to have "no fear", if they didn't they'd lose every battle.

Civilians often are in the highest groups of casualties in any conflict. People know this when going to war, yet still do.

Religion can usually be used to serve ANY agenda, this goes for all religions and the people they indoctrinate. People select the parts they need to use in order to CONTROL people, and conveniently leave out what goes against them.

Telling soldiers the reality of the situation would not suit their agendas in any way. The military uses words such as these in order to have dominion over thier subordinates. I don't like it, but it's reality.

crimsonfox3485d ago

kotaku suck on a fat baby's penis for sure

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