He can't be serious? "Resistance’s gameplay may be tighter and overall more visceral, but Gears of War 2’s engrossing story, captivating characters and its ability to make you feel vital, that you can’t lose to the locusts, is what makes it’s first two hours more successful"
Why bother comparing it in the first place, just go ahead and say it, well Resistance 2 may have better gameplay but we still like Gears 2.
You forgot the "... and gives it the win by a narrow margin." part of the quote.
The whole purpose of a review is to state WHY a certain conclusion was reached, so just saying "well Resistance 2 may have better gameplay but we still like Gears 2" would be utterly pointless.
They did not declare a definite winner, as if the other was completely rubbish or something, they merely found that certain aspects overshadowed by others, if only very slightly, were enough to tip the scale towards one side.
Or would you prefer this conclusion: "for the sake of the fanboy wars, we declare both games 100% equally enjoyable, subjective taste be damned."?
Answer this honestly if you can: would your reaction be the same if they had said the exact same thing, just in favour of R2 instead of GeoW2?
Why couldn't this writer just say that? Gears 2 is a great game for 360 owners and R2 is a great game for PS3 owners. There's no need to compare two different games. Even if R2 won, it would be unfair to Gears 2.
"If this was a UFC fight, Gears of War 2 would win The First Two Hour fight by split decision. They’re both wonderful games, and i think that Resistance’s gameplay may be tighter and overall more visceral, but Gears of War 2’s engrossing story, captivating characters and its ability to make you feel vital, that you can’t lose to the locusts, is what makes it’s first two hours more successful and gives it the win by a narrow margin."
Is the full quote, where they do actually say that both games are great. In an "vs." article, one side is obviously going to win.
The premise of an "vs." article in itself is discussable, but that doesn't seem to be the problem here.
Kind of sad to see having an opinion, about which game one personally finds most appealing, for whatever reasons, become "politically incorrect" for the sake of the fanboy wars, don't you think?
Did you not get what I said? There should not be a comparison between both games because they're different games! One is a third person shooter and one is a first person shooter! I may not be fond of Gears of War but it would be unfair to both sides.
i do!! its because the media is sick and tired of sony coming in first every generation and they want someone else to win for a change, thats just the way it works, look at tiger woods for example, he wins the majority of the time and that is why the media f*cking hates him now lol. so they criticize sony for every little thing and try to sh*t on them but im sure MS's money plays a part also ; ), metacritic aka MICROcritic. XD
I don't get people's problems with this revew. Don't take it personally, it's not like 360 fans really get bragging rights from this. BOTH games got 10s. BOTH were loved. One has a bit better gameplay, one has a bit better story. They gave it to Gears on a split decision. Meaning it was so close, it wasn't really about one game being outright better, it was just about personal preference. Solid review. Why the hate? So what if the guy preferred Gears of R2, it doesn't mean everyone will. Take it for what it's worth, but both games got TENS. Good, solid games.
I completely agree that the games shouldn't be compared, and that both games are probably great (I've not played either yet, so I can't really comment on that) but that is not the point.
My point was based purely on how the content of the article was treated, not the validity of the existence of such an article, which didn't seem to be the issue in the comments I responded to anyway.
The only people that should care about which is "best" is people who own both consoles and only intend to buy one of the games, or someone trying to sell either game.
They know that it doesn't matter whether they say R2 is better or Gears 2 is better, they know that lonely, unemployed fanboys will argue likes its the day of rapture between the ps3 fanboys and the 360 fanboys.
It garners almost as much attention as some priest going along and saying to the Muslim religion and saying that Buddha was nothing but a made-up cartoon character and the Muslim religion saying that Christ is nothing but a fantasy to the Christian faith. That is how passionate some fanboys are with that 7.7 pound console lying next to their television.
I gotta give you bubbles for you objective comments,they were refreshing. I know a lot of people don't agree with you, but I think thats obviously because they're bias. Now, theres nothing wrong with that, we're all a little bias in one way or another. I'm bias toward the PS3 but you can bet your ass I'm picking both these up.
I can only agree to that. Well objective comment. Bubble+.
I have the feeling R2 sometimes does not get the reception we fans would like to see. But this certainly does not apply to this comparison from Ripten. I think it was very balanced.
I understand why fans might be "disappointed". PS3 fans just want to see their hype confirmed. At least once. And the media response is always a mixed bag. Somehow, it seams, this does not happen in 360 reviews. But this is just my impression.
I haven't played GeOW2. And probably never will (just my personal preference). But, I will give credits where credits are due. And I have to admit, that its what it is. A top title for the 360 and a clear challenge for PS3 titles. Even though, obviously I was hoping R2 would remove all doubt. Well, it did not. Otherwise this wouldn't even be a discussion. Two great games. Competition is pushing the limits as a result.
I personally don't care, really. For me R2 just pushes the limits again. And the more I play it, the more I am enjoying the game.
"""R2's mulitplayer is a straight copy of COD4. Gears 2 on the other hand has its own identity."""
yeah why play Predator, Alien, Kill Switch, Dead Space when u can get all that on GeoW2 *cough* 1.5 *cough* yes Im a fanboy lmao xP plus none of those games that i mentioned above have the EPIC water effects that GeoW2 has nor the AWESOME "hammer of Dawn" or whatever is called xD lolOlol so these 2 are a plus
-I'm playing R2 right now and it's epic and the graphics are really good, specially the water(it doesn't react like real water but still looks good)!!! this game is highly recommended!!!! the campaign is awesome and the co-op is insane! the competitive is even better then one from R1.
R2 is so addicted that i have been playing it since this morning. almost 12 hours straight and running. ;-)
Overall both games are equal because the other has what the other is missing. Gears has the very next gen look and Resistance does look good for the amount of things they stuffed on the Blu Ray disc, but Gears looks better. Gears also has a great campaign, and Resistance 2's campaign is the weakest of it's selling points (however the campaign is still very enjoyable, but I expected more). Resistance 2 has the online on lock. Probably one of the best online experiences I've had this gen. And Resistance 2 has the Gameplay revamped to near perfection (I have some very minor gripes, but nearly everything is on point). It pointless to argue which game is better, if you have both consoles get both games, and see which one you enjoy more, which is the only way to pick a winner if there has to be one
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Gears of War 2 story is not as good as they lead you to believe, it's passable B movie quality, but it doesn't hamper the game so I guess that's why people care.
i admit geow 2 is good but a measly 5 to 8 hours campaign while r2 has 12 to 16 hours and online multiplayer that can't match up to resistance 2. and i'm sure that by next year geow 2 will have a pc version, and i will just wait for that one to come out.
...and you smile the second time around. Since I wanted to get Dead Space first but got this because of the collector's edition, I wanted to quickly finish R2 so I can get the story over with and go to the store, but DANG, if the whole thing isn't slick. Anyone going into the towers, Chicago, and a few other areas know that those graphics may have been some of the best in a console shooter EVER.
Remember on Resistance 2 when you crashland and have to see the sight of those many cocoons before they hatched???? Yeah, that screwed with my nerves, probably yours too... especially when Grims started popping out of the cocoons you destroyed the second time back... THEN BAM!!! Grims flood the screen and you run out of ammo... then all you see are claws coming at your face!!!
They really kicked up Resistance 2... i mean, the lighting on the guns and all the levels and your flashlight really makes shadows. Funny how they nitpicked the first part of the game and makes you wonder if they ever finished it. Kraken fight was awesome!
The furies in the game pissed me off everytime those things killed me. Chameleons really mess you up especially when you're sniping and one suddenly pops up inches infront of you only to rend your body a new one.
Dont even get me started with the multiplayer's co-op and competitive modes!
did the writer mention the one negative about the first two hours of gears2? After you're done with the first two hours, you're halfway finished with the game.
I keed I keed. Just started R2 today. Gears 2 should be here monday.
and the other is 20 hours long, so of course gears of war 2 will have more deeper story in the first 2 hours because the game is short and they need to put everything in these 10 hours, while resistance take it more slowly since blue ray can handle 20+hours easily
I don't really see a problem with this. It seems like whoever did this comparison actually liked both. But only one has to be declared a "winner" and it's just their opinion.
Personally, the winner for me ends up being Resistance 2 over Gears 2. The co-op in R2 is ridiculously addicting for some reason.
I will keep this short. R2 blows it away. GOW2 is more of the same as GOW1. I only counted 5 bad guys at once during any real fighting. I also noted a huge amount of framerate drops during some scripted battles with only a few guys fighting against me.
R2 was Epic and amazing from beginning to end. This is not Fanboyism. I have both systems and only want the best games.
"There should not be a comparison between both games because they're different games!"
Hahaha! This has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read. "You shouldn't compare two things that are different, because they're not exactly the same! You can only compare two things that are the same!"
Seriously? Because I thought the whole point of a "comparison" is to look at two or more different things and contrast them against one another?
Give me a break.
In fact, why don't we look at the actual definition of "compare", shall we?
"1. to examine (two or more objects, ideas, people, etc.) in order to note similarities and differences"
And this, people, is the kind of asshattery that you can find only on N4G. In the name of defending one's console. Pathetic.
@Jake1111, I actually read your post before it got deleted, and was "WTF, do we have censorship here now on N4G?" when it was gone all of a sudden. I haven't seen any insult in your post, maybe a bit, well, hm, emotional. But then, if these standards would apply to all posts, this thread should be half empty...so, I think this was a weird decision to delete your post, IMO. Just an observation (OT, of course).
HAHA, why compare the first 2 hours? Anyway the comparisons have already gone through the meat grinder and Gears 2 easily sits at the top. Gears 2 is being called one of the best shooters ever while Resistance is getting mixed reviews but most are great so just leave it at that. I will play Resistance 2 when I have the chance cuz I love me huge bosses but Gears 2 is at a higher level than R2.
Tell me Knight, what has Epic done to revolutionize the game as a whole? How about saying both games are good and therefore both sides should enjoy them?
This is what I mean by 360 fans and the damn superiority complex. I cannot stand when people get on as if they're better than everyone else. It's very annoying.
And don't you EVEN dare use that logic with me concerning the PS3 because even *I* know the PS3 has a few flaws as well.
Grimlock: Is that so? Then let me see your PSN username? In others words, you didn't play it.
As usual, taking the reviews as gospel, eh Firstknight? I love your comments, you only embarrass yourself and your kind. Keep up the good work, fanboy.
"Reviewers said this, so it MUST be true!" Classic.
Anyway, if you have truely played it, you wouldn't be saying any of that, because anyone that sees gaming as just as entertainment, and not as godly matter, would see that both games are amazing.
Oh brother, another weak attempt on verbally attacking me Baum? Your getting to predictable. Tell me if you don't like to read other reviews or other opinions than why are you even on this site? This site is nothing but opinions. If you stand firm on your statement than you shouldn't even be on the internet. You should know that opinions and reviews especially on this site brings interest especially when the *MAJORITY* of reviews/opinions are positive. And you should know that the majority always rules. In this case, the majority of reviews all praise that Gears 2 is one of the best shooters ever created and R2 is one of the best shooters on the ps3. BAUM you are now my pwnage # 1001.
"Tell me Knight, what has Epic done to revolutionize the game as a whole?"
Well for one Gears brings gameplay that isn't very common in todays games. It might not of created something new but I can't think of many games that have similar gameplay to Gears. On the other hand, I can think about a hundred games that play like R2. R2's mulitplayer is a straight copy of COD4. Gears 2 on the other hand has its own identity.
Just face it, more people are excited about Gears 2 than R2. Both are great games but the majority of people agree that Gears 2 is just the better game.
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"You really can't say both games are great, can you? You're extremely biased Knight. That's really, really sad."
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuum, Did you not read my last sentence?
"Well for one Gears brings gameplay that isn't very common in todays games."
Like what" Explain yourself please. I want to know more.
"It might not of created something new but I can't think of many games that have similar gameplay to Gears."
What makes Gear's gameplay unique? Tell me.
"On the other hand, I can think about a hundred games that play like R2. R2's mulitplayer is a straight copy of COD4. Gears 2 on the other hand has its own identity."
You have some nerve to make a comparison between R2 and COD4. That's all I'm going to say.
You really can't say both games are great, can you? You're extremely biased Knight. That's really, really sad.
I personally don't have any problems with your opinions, it that way you state them. You do come off as have a superiority complex, and thats a bit annoying. We're all people behind these words, it's not asking too much for you to show at least a like respect for you fellow gamers.
You can seriously call him biased just because he happens to like one game over another? Are you that blind? He even said both were great games!
Just look under your post for "extreme bias." 'Tears of Bore'? Seriously? I acknowledge that they are both great games, even if I haven't had the chance to play Resistance 2 yet. I'm not gonna make up biased BS just to further the childish war on this site.
HAHAHAHA First Knight, Seem like you wanna talk about Majority, Seem like the majority shift from XBOX 360 to PS3 and Wii. What you gonna say about that? Majority finally agree XBOX 360 is sh*tty now?? What about Majority of publishers say PS3 software now sold better... so YOUR "MAJORITY" gonna say about that huh. Funny you call other weak attempt. Yours is fragile as well.
so Juuken, you think that when the 360 fantarts stop, the Ps3 fantarts will also? That logic is a little flawed. There all losers, on oth sides of the fence, no matter who threw the first rock.
Can you blame PS3 fans for acting this way? They were attacked from left to right since LAST YEAR. Sony makes mistakes and they pay for it because they bought a PS3. Seriously, did you know how it was so annoying to come to a forum and here people say 'HA-HA, YOU BOUGHT A $600.00 BLURAY PLAYER! GO PLAY UR BLURAY MOVIES BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO GAMES!11111'.
360 fans are part of the reason why this even started in the first place. PS3 fans were just defending themselves against their attacks.
When too human was considered a flop no one defended it...I know i didnt...if you didnt like the game ohh well...I enjoyed it..but juuken has the mindset of "if they hit us we will strike back" bullsh!t which is very childish...I guess since there are going to be a flop on every week of a ps3 release then now all of a sudden its waaaah....why dont xbox fanboys stop being mean....we told you lbp would not sell in the thousands and some idiots proclaimed millions...but we have seen there has not been a increase in hardware sales....nothing....whats more surprising is how motorstorm 2 is flopping...better get those bundles ready to try and push these games sony.....not even the morons who allready own those ps3's are buying them.
@bottom why put up spoilers of games is really the biggest douchebag move I have seen in awhile on either side....pretty sad. Thing is my experience will not change...telling me what the ending is is not getting to the ending myself....I will do that on my own.
"Just like the 360 fanboys ruined the ending to MGS4 too? They started it.." some children man..seriously....I know i didnt ruin the mgs4 ending yet my experience is ruined....but I wont be ruining any games on any console...why do that...terrible.
I for one thing never proclaimed that LBP would sell in *millions*. You don't even know the total sales yet so I don't see why you're judging it already.
So basically, you're telling me that 360 fanboys are allowed to bully PS3 owners and they're supposed to take it like a b*tch. Wow...that's just pathetic, because if someone was picking on me, I would defend myself as well.
Another thing, good for you if you enjoyed Too Human. Others enjoyed Lair and probably Haze. But of course, 360 fanboys couldn't accept that either. They had to call these games flops. And now you're crying wolf because PS3 fans laughed at Too Human.
Once again, you 360 fanboys started this first. When the PS3 wasn't doing so well last year, you ganged up on PS3 fans claiming superiority.
Now the PS3 is doing better, you're still doing the same thing.
360 fanboys love using the disagree buttons because they can't handle the truth.
May I also suggest Snuka that you learn something called punctuation. Oh, and Motorstorm: Pacific is not a flop. Just because it didn't reach AAAAAAAAA status doesn't mean it's not a good game. A good game doesn't need AAAAAAAAA to be a good game.
its sad but understandable for fanboys to pit the exclusives on their precious systems against each other. The big games for this holidays season are: PS3 has LBP and ReFOM2 and Xbox 360 with Fable 2 and Gears of War 2
Reviews---LBP > Fable 2 Sales------LBP < Fable 2
Reviews---Gears of War 2 > ReFOM2 Sales------Gears of War 2 > ReFOM2
...And yet you're not a fanboy. Very nice. And I'm glad I own a PS3 because R2 is a damn good game. Love how you use the term fanboy and yet you pass yourself as one.
did I ever deny of being a so called xbox "fanboy"? thus the reason I only have 3 bubbles since this site is overrun by Sony obsessed fans as yourself.
had a somehow weak opening much resembling the previous entries but that it progressively got much better. Let me say this straight, I didn't like the first indoor level when the Leviathan attacks in Resistance 2 nor the Gears 2 hospital level which was just like the first one.
Overall, Resistance 2 has a much better multilayer component while Gears' single campaign is a little better.
He can't be serious?
"Resistance’s gameplay may be tighter and overall more visceral, but Gears of War 2’s engrossing story, captivating characters and its ability to make you feel vital, that you can’t lose to the locusts, is what makes it’s first two hours more successful"
Why bother comparing it in the first place, just go ahead and say it, well Resistance 2 may have better gameplay but we still like Gears 2.
HAHA, why compare the first 2 hours? Anyway the comparisons have already gone through the meat grinder and Gears 2 easily sits at the top. Gears 2 is being called one of the best shooters ever while Resistance is getting mixed reviews but most are great so just leave it at that. I will play Resistance 2 when I have the chance cuz I love me huge bosses but Gears 2 is at a higher level than R2.
Gamers prefer Gears 2 over Flopsistance 2.
Both games are great. Right now I have fully enjoyed R2.
Now it's time for me to enjoy gears 2.
With cooperative :)
They are both good games and they take different approaches to the shooter genre. Nuff said.