Here are comparision shots between that infamous killzone 2 e3 2005 trailer and the recent gameplay footage.
But UNBELIEVABLY it looks better. The Haters.........GG did it.
a slightly different art style but i agree. Some of the technical effects are much much better in the real game where other aspects like the ones u mentioned are not. truth be told Im impressed and have seen nothing like it in quality on console yet
100% as always. :)
looking that washed out though so its hard to compare.... however,GG have done an amazing job graphically no question
Just got Killzowned. Man they have hit the mark with the visuals in this game and it is not even gold yet!
And now we have to see if the GOW3 in game footage looks as good as the CGI trailer. I doubted Sony would pull it off with Killzone 2, but they have. Bravo! Now give us GOW3 in game!
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Yeah I think they made the movement a little too real, which some people like, but when playing the game it is just as good as that trailer and the gameplay videos people have been seeing are spot on amazing graphics especially in the sunny area of the academy map that is just amazing graphics, its COD 4 ratcheted up to the next 2 levels!!!
Even the multiplayer looks downright ridiculous. But shooting the guns themselves is pure bliss. Because of the blood, sound and physics reaction to the bullets firing a FPS gun never felt better.
What I remember from the real-time trailer vs the old CG trailer, the real-time trailer was better in every way except the smoke effects (of when the plane get's shot down). These look good though, and I prefer the new grey style over the old browny (sepia) style
The CG had better animation and particle effects. Also, KZ2 is probably the best looking game in the universe but that's meaningless without good gameplay and the jury is still out on that one.
to be honest I prefer the look of how the game is now too, Love the colours of the picture with Rico and the last pic ( in real time ) also the game really does seem to be looking fantastic ( I say this as an onlooker whose unfortunate to have not played the beta ) This comparison to me seems highly flawwed as most of the real time scenes are from offscreen so the colours clearly are different, but the textures still look top notch and the lighting is fantastic. This lighting engine is truly fantastic, I've watched alot of videos and there's hardly a jagged edge on any of the shadows being cast dynamically.
Been waiting since 2005 for this game it's gonna be sick. Ahh man Great games just take too long. Brace yurselfs PS3's will be flying of the shelves by 360 converts. That day will come!
PS3 owners have been waiting for this game since that 2005 trailer was released, 123 developers, 23 million dollars, 4 years of development...this game will not disappoint.
Seriously? Where did you get that figure?
"There are more than 135 developers in the Netherlands working on the game at the moment. The new Killzone 2 will be fully translated in 20 different languages. It is believed that the budget currently surpasses £20 million ($41million), which is comparable to a small-budget Hollywood picture and is the most expensive multimedia project in Holland's history (this has yet to be confirmed). It will have downloadable content like other contemporary games, possibly in the form of episodic content." Link: http://www.bebo.com/Profile...
"£20 million ($41million" So it's not $23 million, it's $41 million.
That's an older tidbit from 2007. The cost ballooned in jan. and is estimated to have hit up to $60-65 million already.
I THOUGHT (I'd have to look it up again) there was over 200 people on their team now and its clear over the 20 million mark. Because that 20 million mark was stats from over 6 months ago.
The lightening in the game is absolutely perfect. Graphics as a whole are top notch. But these images doesn't show the game's strongest asset. Its animation system is by far I have seen in any game. Its equal to what CGI video had if not better. Plus the game recreates the rush and chaos which was in the CG trailer. Anybody still doubting is simply a hater.
Yeah when you kill a guy they writhe when they hit the floor and they animate wherever your bullets hit, and a head shot feels like a head shot because of the extra animation they put in
I was playing the beta couple of nights ago, and I experienced one of the best headshot animation ever. One guy from the ISA were running across the middle of the map (forgot the map name, but it's one big building), so I put my gun into scope view and shot him in the head. The bullet went through his head, blood were spewing out of his head, and his body just flew back and landed on the ground. But it didn't just landed, I actually saw his arms waving and his body bounced a little bit before laying still on the ground. Amazing animation, amazing physics, amazing graphic!
Did you see the explosions in the first trailer? THose were unreal. So was the facial animation. So the animation in general and the level of detail, the fire.... Killzone 2 is definitely the most impressive game in terms of graphics and it did come close in many aspects, but on others it pales in comparison. You can't beat CGI which is not real-time with real-time footage, because it will always be three steps ahead. Perhaps by PS6 era games will be indistinguishable from CGI cut-scenes. Or maybe PS5, unless PS4 is not just two PS3s duct-taped together.
Real-time footage is a lot more sharper so therefore, it looks like a polygonal game environment in comparison to [ANY] CGIs. (not that Killzone has blocky looks, not at all) Maybe if you blur the videos and screenshot of realtime, you may see it LOOK LIKE CGI :) the only thing unsurpassed is fire....and maybe the hair styles..
The explosions are SO REALISTIC! This game has by FAR the best effects ever created.
Actually in the pre-alpha stage the real-time looked better than the computer generated imagery. Like for instance bullet penetration is a lot better in real-time and look like they bounce off in the CGI. IGN HTML: http://ps3.ign.com/articles...
Yeah, but the sheer fact that it's remotely comparable to pre-rendered CGI is an amazing feat. But I agree, we won't exactly see pure pre-rendered CGI looking graphics until PS4 or PS5. If those will even exist.
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The animations and explosions in the CG trailer were better no question about that, but other than that it looks better now.
beyond expectation. and it has more colour than CG haha. excellent acheivement GG, you deserve standing avation
There's no point of comparison between them. The CG shots are taken from a video while the others are direct feed from the game. As good as KZ2 might look, if you put both videos in motion you will see how the animations, psychics, overall detail (texture, faces, etc...) is immensely superior in the CG trailer. No matter of discussion anyways, that's why it CGI.
lmfao Gears 2 looks no where near as good graphically as KZ2. Rid your eyes of that idiotic fanboy blur that censors out anything they don't want to see.
KZ2 makes gears1.1 look like Dogsh88 Uncharted makes anything on flop box look like piles of trash so why even mention KZ2
I smell jealous 360 fanboys...xDDD
They have surpass it mostly, hats off to GG.
e.g look at this image from the original CGI then look at the image they used.
Hahahha, it actually looks better than the 2005 trailer.
Truly amazing! And trust me in motion its simply baffles you! Can't wait to get my hands on the full version with nothing compressed! =D
The actual game itself looks about just as good as the Killzone 2 CGI trailer. I wouldn't be surprised if that God of War 3 teaser trailer was running in real time (even though it probably isn't), because after Ted Price revealed that the R2 teaser trailer was actually running in real time things that look CGI on the PS3 may just end up being realtime... and if that GOW3 teaser trailer wasn't realtime and was CGI, I'm pretty sure that the actual game graphics will be very close to the teaser trailer itself.
Man you just made me piss in my pants! CANT WAIT FOR God of War!
I will admit that this gamje looks exceptional. But it is obvious that these images have been manipulated post render via photoshop. The saturation levels have been raised and several filters have been applied (motion blur, contrast/darkness levels, gausian blur, etc). Many publishers are guilty of tweaking their screen shots. I just don't think it's necessary in this case as the visual presentation appears to be top notch. Perhaps the developer or publisher is under extreme pressure to meet or exceed the public's unrealistic expectation.
it's not tweaked, the real time footage is actually taken from a cam it's not even a direct-feed screen shot. if you look a little closer the size of the pictures is not even propotion.
Yeah it's tweaked. You see Guerilla Game is trying to mask and lie to everybody about Killzone 2's graphics. So they invented an ingenious way of tweaking the saturation and color and other things. They already have it in the beta. What they do is adjust the saturation, colors, contrast all in real-time while your playing! Amazing isn't it? /Sarcasm off I've played the beta, and believe anybody who's played it. The graphics are just as good as those photos.
If these images are GAMEPLAY (not pre-gameplay game engine driven cinematics)then GREAT! Gears also uses it's game engine to run cinematics but they far exceed the in-game graphics due to the lightened CPU load. I'be THRILLED if the final build resembles these screen-shots. But just because the images were captured in-camera doesn't dismiss the possiblity that they were manipulated after the being converted to jpg/bmp files. This game is one of the central reasons why I purchased a PS3. I just have some doubts after all the other failed promises and B.S. of Sony's current console.
those screens look EXACTLY like every gameplay video I have seen from the recent build. That is in game.
@10.3 Those are real screenshots folks. The fact that people cant believe it's real says enough.
THESE SCREENS ARE ALL FROM IN GAME. They ones that have the blue tinge are off screen and are from Gamersyde. They are screen captures of their HD video that they posted when they played the game at the PS day in europe. The more colourful screens were taken directly from the video which was took directly from the video they showed at the day aswell. No tweaking or editing, just pure in game screen captures.
"Tweaked. I will admit that this gamje looks exceptional. But it is obvious that these images have been manipulated post render via photoshop. The saturation levels have been raised and several filters have been applied (motion blur, contrast/darkness levels, gausian blur, etc). Many publishers are guilty of tweaking their screen shots. I just don't think it's necessary in this case as the visual presentation appears to be top notch. Perhaps the developer or publisher is under extreme pressure to meet or exceed the public's unrealistic expectation." Sony and GG would be very happy to read about your statement, Because that means that they were able to make the the game look just like the CGI footage, and better. Do yourself a favor and look at the new Killzone 2 trailer. That was all in-game as confirmed by Seb. http://www.n4g.com/industry...
how about a comparison between this and gears 2 ? LOL!
Gears 2 is gonna get killzowned if they did that, LOL
Lol...that'll be manslaughter there. xD
the beta simply guarentees me full knowledge how much more powerful of a system is than the 360, it looks better than gears, its bigger than gears,. and it has 32 online multiplayer in pre alpha beta form i mean wtf. and gears 2 has 5 on 5. it just makes perfect sense, when you guys get the game you will understand it also.
Whoa you're fishing in some dangerous waters there. Killzone 2 graphics better than Gears 2? You're gonna get a mouth full from the 360 folks. Good luck!
Its blatantly obvious to anyone with eyes that KZ2 looks better than Gears. I dont know anyone that would argue that? I mean it would be fruitless wouldnt it?
@13.2 Blatantly obvious things actually do not register with 360 folks. Gears of War 2 will have better graphics than a Playstation 5 game. Oh yes, they really do believe it. Gears 2 have very excellent graphics. But Killzone 2 has unbelievable ones. Look at some of the posts above, some think that those screenshots are fake, when in truth it's all real time in-game screenshots. I'm playing the beta and can attest to that.
Dude. If you're playing the beta how can you find the time to damage control this n4g thread? If I was playing the beta and it truly was all you said it was, then you would never catch me correcting bots and reassuring droids on n4g, because my head would be glued to the KZ2 gameplay. Perhaps the fact that you are here instead is telling us all a great deal more! just a thought.
@Karl Yeah I'm here because I'm at work and not at home. If I'm at home, I'll be playing it. I switch from R2 to KZ2. Haven't touched Gears 2 since I beat it.
Perhaps try gears on a harder setting.
I CANNOT WAIT i didnt get in the beta even tho i downloaded the theme the second it came on the store weeks ago (not too happy) but just another 3 months and this game will be proudly be in my PS3 collection :D looks amazing and personaly i think its one of the best graphical achivment so far even better than crysis but im sure ppl will disagree (im a PC gamer too) i honestly cant wait this game better looking than Gears 2 aswell :D
Im in the beta and it looks freaking better than those images!! Looks better in motion!
in the third to last one then the look of the second to last one its comparable. And no those images have not be tweaked. Not even direct-feed. (@ 10)
This is one of the only gaming companies that uses the cell to help the RSX with the graphics, and this only uses 4.5 out of the 6 avalible cores, and its not even optomized to its fullist.
I just can't wait to see what a flame thrower looks like (the flames anyway); fire and other volumetric type particle effects are always telling of a system/game's graphical prowess, i.e., Haze's fire looks like gelatin, therefore the game is gelatin.
If it plays as good as the original CGI motion suggests then i will buy Killzone2 immediatley - is there any chance of that? That's the thing a lot of you guys forget.The original trailer made all but the stupidest people let out a shout of joy, or in the case of 360 users at that point, "oh sh!t that's a bit good, i might have to get a PS3 after all", such was the sheer awesome quality that it was - Killzone2 as of now on PS3 is delightfull but when i watch it, it doesn't impress half as much as back then Killzone2 as of now has a better more darker atmosphere and also very solid looking visuals but for pure thrill, it's not anything like as exciting as the cgi Great achievement though and only the first game from GG on the PS3 Show your level of intelligence by disagreeing
Everything looked better 5 years ago, because we hadn't even seen HD gaming before. Even the worst game now looks better then God of War 1.
Even though this is almost a moot point, we're doing graphics comparisons right? Models in CGI still look more detailed. The volumetric clouds are better in CGI Explosions still look better in CGI ...uh yeah, that's about it. That's how impressive GG is. Normally companies that try to bring CGI quality would usually have a much larger list. GG however is doing a great job so far. R2 disappointed me a bit with pre-rendered shadows and not-great lighting, but lets see how GG does it in 5 more months (cause I anticipate delays). Crysis has spoiled me ya know. Gears 2 as well.