The publisher has provided its latest hardware sales expectations for the North American and European markets combined.
Wasn't this expected ?? the PS3 will even outpace the 360 more in 2009...
to all devs they should notice that ps3 is not hacked yet and even if ps3 lacking behind 360 in install base they make it up from game sale because sony managed to hack-free their ps3
This was to be expected Danja but the "Sony Against Force" would rather have you believe that the PS3 is a sinking ship while the Xbox 360 is the greatest thing since sliced bread. SMH.
"Sony Against Force" will definitely catch on.
Activision will probably follow EAs lead and start game development on the PS3, then port over to the 360.
WHOA WHOA WHOA! Wasnt it Activision that was saying something negative about the PS3 recently???
Rofl so the biggest developers are now stating that PS3 will take over and that they are siding with P3? Just like EA, Activision is now standing behind the PS3. Now what else you got to say about that, fanboys. ITS DONE. Doesn’t matter how MS is rigging the reviews and paying reviewers to rate down PS3 triple As, its done. This Xmas is PS3.
Were they just saying that it will begin to outpace the 360 in North America? It's crazy to see this considering that the PS3 is still twice as much as the 360 and it continues to sell more world wide than the 360. Perhaps the games and online offerings are truly helping out. Oh, and not to forget the BD player. There are so many good things to say about both consoles but man, that BD player in todays view sure adds value to the PS3. Glad to hear more devs and publishers are getting behind the PS3 this year. It makes us launch owners happy to see the turn around.
Anyone with half a brain can see this. Heck even EA predicted this long time ago. I wonder what made them think that the x360 will outsell the PS3 this year in the first place.
There just jumping on the bandwagon bcuz most 3rd party publishers has revealed that PS3 is a very profitable console...
Drugs i don't know Lol jk.... or am I.......... Hmmmmmm
we are just regular gamers and yet we are able to see trends happening that anyone can see happening but a Major Publisher like Activation couldn't see it?. That is what baffles me. I assume that Activation have people that are paid thousands of dollars to do their forecast but it baffles me how they could get it so wrong in the first place. Factors 1. in 2007 at the x360's peak and the PS3 at its weakest manages to outsell the x360. 2. x360 despite releasing its prefect storm of varied games with a lower price is still decreasing in sales from year to year. 3. Sony still has more game devs than MS and Nin combined that are producing exclusive IP as well as the fact that PS3 major games will start arriving in 2008. 4. Sony Brand is very strong with the PS2 still being supported and the majority still haven't migrated. Sony has a sh1tload of exclusive IP from previous gens that will sway alot of PS2 owners to migrate once they hit the PS3. With all these factors in place. Anyone with half a brain can see that there is noway the x360 could outsell the PS3 this year.
I think they saw it coming , just didn't want to believ it was gonna happen...lol I think they got caught up in the whole negativity that media had towards the PS3 last year and decided to just play it safe pretend to believe in the 360...
Dam danja u know ur stuff :)
you are just so smart, you should work as a console sales analyst, you'd surely make profits perfectly predicting accurate sales of every console, down to the hourly sales. same with your buddy, cmrbe. surely you guys have at least half a brain.
thanks dude for contributing nothing to the topic..but im sure you used ur entire brain trying to come up with that lil comment...!!
yup, i put my brain throttle to 37% (that's my max) to come up with a nice response. but seriously, why are posts like this even made? it's fairly obvious that everyone here is a PS3 fan. grats on patting each other's backs. to be honest i don't see either sales picking up. i think 360 and ps3 will continue to sell fairly equally over the next year, which sucks for m$ because they're so much cheaper, but that's just how it is. both systems have great games out and coming out, can't we all just be happy?
ut oh I don't see this going over very well...
they never do....especially when the truth is gonna hurt a few ppl around here.
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....just like EA did. And look at their losses this quarter. http://www.bloomberg.com/ap... Everybody knows, the only games that sell on wii and ps3 are first party and "exclusive" titles. Activision and EA do neither. Maybe Activision wants to "downsize" staff and stock, just like EA did. Good business plan Activision. Look at your own numbers Activision, which system moves the most software? Do the math. There won't be no bail out's for you, if you don't.
"Then Throw Money At It Activision.... ....just like EA did. And look at their losses this quarter. http://www.bloomberg.com/ap... Everybody knows, the only games that sell on wii and ps3 are first party and "exclusive" titles. Activision and EA do neither. Maybe Activision wants to "downsize" staff and stock, just like EA did. Good business plan Activision. Look at your own numbers Activision, which system moves the most software? Do the math. There won't be no bail out's for you, if you don't." Or Because we are in an Economic Crisis, which is the Reason why 3/4 of The US voted for Obama. Stop the spins.
you're completely clueless about economic, I wonder are you a kid since you know nothing and pwnsause just Pwned your ass right on the spot
ALL ABOARD, ALL ABOARD.....THE PS3
I'm already onboard! :3 Ready to amaze myself with even MORE kick ass exclusives! ^-^ ....And watching my purse die again. xD
At least you are waiting for your purse to die. I on the other hand have zombie wallet. It's dead but it's still alive and it's eating my greens.
I'm aboard too and enjoying the ride. Playing R2 right now and it's a lot of fun. Finish Dead Space and right into R2. Gaming life is great right now.
Bob Dole just beat Fallout 3. Now it's time to move on to LBP :D (oh btw the ending for Fallout was f(_)cking WEAK, the rest of the game is the sh1t tho)
Success is only achievable through the right station.... the Playstation 3
They are seeing the PS3 outpace the 360 next year by approx. 2 mil consoles and that is at current pricing. Now think what the gap is going to be like when the price drop hits next year. Also keep in mind MS said no more price drops for a long time. Sucks to be MS.
Wasted their ammunition this year, that's for sure. :(
Blu-ray might not be important to games consoles YET however it makes piracy extremely hard to do on the PS3. It is due to this that PS3 software sales are fantastic and finally even the idiots of the gaming industry *cough*valve*cough* are taking notice of the PS3.
As it stands now even IF PS3 titles could be copied those that required dual layer discs would not be worth it. The cheapest you can get them for at the moment is $36 EACH @ qty. 100. Now if you coaster one you just spent approx. 66% the cost of the game NEW. It just isn't worth it for the forseeable future. Also note that a Blu-Ray burner costs approx. $200 - $250.
good to know, looking forward to next year. xD
Abit of a no brainer statement this article. In all seriousness I wonder if the 360's install base is shrinking rather than growing from all the console deaths
each year ps3 sells more..each year 360 sells less....If u dont believe me look it up
telling that to a major publisher like Activision. Apparently they have no brain people doing their forecasts.
Ubisoft made more money on Ps3 this year Next up:Activision Could Ps3s success this year lead to a console exclusive Diablo III?Only time will tell
we could only wish. Actually add SC2 as well.
who the hell told you that lie? im off to find a link to shut this mofo up.. ea announced 228 million = 360 98 million = ps3 thats over 100% sales for the 360
may you please backup your proof: http://www.reuters.com/arti... BTW Reuters>>>>>> ;>>>any gamesite. http://www.pdfdownload.org/... oh and heres a document straight from UBISOFT. I backed up more than enough proof against at what you are saying, have fun....
Simply owned by pwnsause. Pathetic idiots like you attempt to make points without backing them up.
I love how air pulls numbers out of his asscrack. Lollololololololooooooooooooo ooooooooooolz! Hun, the sales of the 360 are slowing down, just like McCain slowed down and got his ass whooped by Obama.
uve just been Obama'd what a difference a year makes huh. No speeches from MS on these facts. The 2 most annoying frases this gen have come from ms and some of their fans 'aaa' and 'attach rate' and it seems aaa exclusives have alluded them in 08 until gears gets released and attach rate only tells half the picture. EA UBI are proving this. 360 guys may buy more games per console (according to MS) BUT ps3 people are buying more games so who's mistaken/lying here???
@ Juuken,pwnsauce, retarded, whyowhy. Read this, b1tches: Here is the proof for air's assertions. In the last quarter, the 360 accounted for 224 Million of EA revenue the ps3 accounted for 98 Million of EA revenue http://i529.photobucket.com... http://i529.photobucket.com... Here's EA's financial report, from which the above were extracted: http://files.shareholder.co... You guys were celebrating the pwnage of air, when in fact HE WAS RIGHT! You guys are so pathetic it's just not funny! In future, do some research before you call BS, because AIR was SPOT ON with his post! Did I just irrefutably pwn YOUR collective asses, b1tches? hmmm.... yep!
Do you know what you just pulled out? read what it says at the top of paper, the Topic of you just presented, AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHH A, Epic fail by karlostomy again. and Im being called a "Retard" HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
LMFA, dude Surely you cannot be THAT dumb? the title is: "EA REPORTS SECOND QUARTER FISCAL YEAR 2009 RESULTS" Ok, obviously I need to educate you as well as PWN you! >>>>The Fiscal year second quarter 2009 ended sept 30 2008. Go back to school you mindless twat! YOU JUST DOUBLE PWNED YOURSELF A retard indeed. :)
the title is: "EA REPORTS SECOND QUARTER FISCAL YEAR 2009 RESULTS" karlostomy, thats not the topic of that page, the topic of that page was "Unaudited Supplemental Financial Information and Business Metrics (in millions, except per share data, SKU count and Headcount)" you got pwned by Pwnsause again, and he didnt even have to reply again to you're nonsense and spins. BTW read this story for more info, get informed the right way, stop presenting numbers that you do not even understand what it means, you are not a business major. http://gamer.blorge.com/200...
Will it ever end? @jackthe dope-o-saur The article you supplied is OLD! http://gamer.blorge.com/200... It's OLD dude! It refers to the previous quarter! Read the date... dumbass! PWNED! And, dude, I am studying Finance at University. I study maths, statistics and accounting.... That makes me somewhat qualified to read and interpret financial statements. PWNED! The page title "Unaudited Supplemental Financial Information and Business Metrics" is EXACTLY what I was talking about! PWNED! "unaudited" simply means that a CPA from outside the company has to verify the figures. EA's numbers are final and are EXPECTED to be completely accurate in this form, BY LAW! PWNED! I can't believe you guys are trying to spin this! How desperate are you? Will you come back for more like sick masochistic b1tches? EA's very own most current and up-to-date investor information numbers are staring you in the face in the document! Wake up and smell the coffee, kids! PWNED! ....again.... and again...... and again! PWNED! Thrice, in fact! Has there ever been such a severe and embarrassing SDF pwnage?
This is their Q2 2009 report. guess what, we are at the end of Q2 and we are now at Q3. why the self- pwning karlostomy, dont harm yourself.
::yawn:: stop whining and bishing all you little fangirls. get over it and get back to playing your video games.
The quarter that i supplied ended September 30, 2008. That means my report is the most up to date. Oh, right. you are one of those fanboys who can look into the future to an as yet unreleased q3 report? Sorry, friend. I forgot you have special powers. Is that why they keep you locked up? Well done, dude. I thought you were just a silly fanboy. Now I see that you can't acknowldege facts, even when they are presented to you with a sledgehammer. sad sad Sdf. Quadruple Pwnage. With each comment, you look more ignorant, guys!
Lmfao karl...Sony made EA made more money OVERALL, not just with the PS3. Lol, did you forget that Sony wields more than one system? They back up the PS2 *still* (unlike Microshaft and the XBox), the PSP, and the PS3. They also had the PS1 as well. You're a catastrophe dear. :/
Hi Juuken. Karl here. Had to create this account to correct you, darling! (I apologise. Most out of character for me.) I just couldn't stand to see you delude yourself any longer! In the most recent quarter for EA the revenues were: Ps3 = 98 million psp = 36 million ps2 = 54 million Add them all up and you get 188 million Sorry babe, that's STILL short of the 224 million for the 360. That's right, the 360 (last quarter) earned MORE than the entire combined revenue for the ps3, ps2 and psp for EA. Is that telling you anything? Check yourself, Darling. (you know it's true) Now, don't get me started on 360 + PC sales.... oh deary me!
...Lmfao karl, you created another account there?! You are a sad, sad child. :/ Read what I said very, very, VERY carefully. EA made money from Sony OVERALL. That means they didn't just make money off of the PS3. They made money off of the PS1, PSP, and *gasp* the PS2! That amount made on the 360 is nothing compared to the amount from Sony overall! And seriously, I know about Microsoft making money off of the 360 and the PC. Dammit, you FAIL! Stop pwning yourself already! D: You will do anything to prove yourself right, even though you're wrong. Childish prick.
Did you not read what I wrote? Are you that selfabsorbed that you cannot see that I just calculated what SONY made for EA with its ps1, psp, ps3 and *gasp* ps2? When you add them all up.... they made LESS THAN THE 360 DID BY ITSELF! (in the latest quarter) Go on baby, read my last two posts again! Read them Very very VERY VERY carefully. Because I already answered your post. Your ignorance is just astonishing. Did you even finish college? You continue to amaze me. but not in a positive way! I had already proven you wrong above, and then you PWN yourself by not even comprehending what I wrote!
Karl...whatever makes you sleep better at night. I know what I saw. Goodday Nazi boy.
sorry but this junkac1 account was created 281 days ago, which has seen very intermittent but regular activity over that time frame, that of logging in but never posting any comments, that is until now. Any article on this site can be read without having an account. The only reason to have an account is to post comments and agree/disagree with other peoples comments (plus obviously to post news). I'm not accusing you of anything here, just curious, but if no comments, until now, have been made using your junkac1 account, what reason and use has been made over the last 281 days with intermittent but regular logging on of this junkac1 account? I hope not to agree with your Karlostomy comments or add extra disagrees to other peoples comments. Now granted, you used this Junkac1 account on me when I temporarily blocked your main account, so you could send PM's (with a ton of bad language and insults, which was about 3-4 months ago. You have since apologised for that, thanks). Is that the only reason you have this second account, to get past people blocking your main account? I'm not trying to start anything here with you, we last spoke on quite civil terms. You deserve the benefit of doubt, but please don't try to make out you created this account just for juuken (ultimolu), as it is rather hypocritical to be having a go at her about setting up a second account and calling others out for multiple accounts (which i've seen you do quite a few times in the past), when you've had this account all the time. I hope you don't take my questioning of you the wrong way.
Is that the only thing you had to contribute to this topic? Interesting that you feel the need to speculate about what the nature of the account is. hang on, didn't you already do that before.... 3,4,5 times? Sorry Scooby. There IS a second account. It's no secret! Read its Bio! It's open for all to see! What exactly do you hope to gain by speculating about something that I am completely honest about? I use the account to write PMs to people who otherwise have me blocked. Like you did. Like Juuken did. What else you decide to make of the account is really none of my business, of course, and you can speculate and conduct smear campaigns to your heart's content. Which you are doing quite happily, I might add. Does that not ring true? Of course, if you observed my bubble count, you would logically realise that I am NOT one of the people who upbubbles their own account. If I did THAT I'd probably sport 7 or 8 bubbles (like some of the other dubious accounts on here. Look above ^^^). In any case, scooby,you were right in saying that last time we met we were civil. Don't reopen your old scars just because you don't like what I pointed out about the poor PS3 EA numbers. ------------------------ On topic: Juuken, go and check the article darling. You will see I am right about the numbers. I was right the first, second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth time about the Sony EA VS. 360 EA numbers. Go check, If you have an ounce of honesty and integrity in you. Here's the article again, girl. http://files.shareholder.co... Here's the relevant numbers again, girl. http://i529.photobucket.com... Scooby, check my original post in this thread. Will you acknowledge that I am right about the numbers also? After all, correcting the false beliefs of several people in this thread was the purpose of my comment originally. It was nothing to do with extra accounts, buibbles, or disagrees! It speaks volumes that my post was entirely factual, with the official EA financial report, using the latest data..... even with screenshots of the relevant revenue sections and a link to the originating document http://i529.photobucket.com... .... AND STILL THERE IS JUST BLATANT DENIAL AND OBFUSCATION! What does that tell you? All this BS is the result of Sony fanboys being irrefutably PROVEN wrong, but hiding behind denial and ignorance, in the case of Juuken et al. So finally, Scoobs, was I right with my EA numbers? Did the 360 make more money for EA than the ps3, ps2, psp and ps1 COMBINED last quarter? Come on, now.... tell EVERYBODY!
...What the f*ck does that prove? That the 360 is a superior console? Keep failing karl. Just keep failing.
I never said you bubbled your main account. I’ve only speculated on the nature of your second account once before in a PM message, not 3 or 4 times. I never received an answer, so I’m left to speculate. You now try to pass your self off as being honest in your Junkac1 Bio, but you seem to forget that you used this same account on me a few months ago and your Bio read somewhat differently then. To quote a PM message I sent you at that time, “I especially liked your bio on your “Junkac1” account, that you make yourself out to be a gamer on all 3 consoles, but, and you quote. “My favourite is the ps3 games console - it has bluray drive”. Its too late for me to prove this, its only my word against yours, but I know what your Junkac1 Bio originally said, and that makes me question you, because your not being totally honest here. 281 days your Junkac1 account has remained hidden. That can make people doubt the nature of such and account, wouldn’t you say? But like I said above, i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, no smear campaign. Agreed, there are certainly users here on N4G who probably do bubble themselves up with multiple accounts. Others however earn bubbles by trying to be unbiased, act in civil manner, and don’t put others down with insults. They also don’t troll the forums putting others console of choice down either. That way people don’t take their bubbles away, but actually they give some. ----------------------------- ------------------------- On Topic. I’m flattered you take my word with some merit and ask me to confirm your EA numbers, even though I wasn’t involved in any argument with you over them. I’ll emphasize it “YES”, you are correct, the Q2 figures are in the 360’s favour. But then “ultimolu” was also correct in her statement as she said overall, not just Q2 figures. And overall this year the PS brand has earned more for EA than the 360 alone, but then its unfair to be comparing 3 consoles with only 1. Now, I hope you don’t take this as spin, i’m trying to be unbiased here. EA do make more money on the 360, they should do, as there is a larger installed user base. But if you take the installed user base of the 360 with the Q1 and Q2 figures combined, divide that by the installed base to give a per unit figure. Now do the same for the PS3, you'll see both consoles are pretty much tied, meaning that if the installed base of each console where the same, EA would be making the same money off of each console. More important though is the figure for YoY% change. That figure is of real interest to the share holders and the board room directors of EA. The 360 only managed 3%, but the PS3 managed 476%. Activision are seeing a similar result, the PS3 is gaining its legs. Companies look to this figure to invest in the following year to make more profit, its business after all.
Instead, you completely repeated everything you already said in your first post about this account. What gives scooby? It's obviously a sore point for you. I once again wonder what you possibly have to gain by continuing with the junkac1 tirade? IMO, this is making you look very obsessive and smallminded. And I know you are not normally like that, right? You are smarter than that, scoobs. Let it go, huh? Anyway. I can't believe I need to say this but when you look at the numbers, the 360 has completely dominated the earnings share for EA. I have been blown away by the spin and tangents EVERYONE (including you, scoobs) has tried to put on this. Yet, when we look at ALL of the data for the whole reporting period, the 360 beats the ps3 overall as well. Juuken even tried using the tried-and-true 'combined earnings' approach. However, When you add the overall figures, though, the 360 plus PC combined beat PS3,PS2,PSP combined... quite handily. Sony comes in second in pretty much any comparison for EA. It's interesting you mentioned increased 360 user base vs ps3. A fair, point... but why did the 360 Also outsell ps2 and ps3 COMBINED? Does this argument not count when we include the ps2? Logically, the ps2 and ps3 have combined user base of 140 million+ Yet, EA earns more revenue overall from the 360 with a userbase of 22 million overall..... WOW! just WOW! I find it sad, that my direct and succinct point in (2.7) was twisted and spun in so many different directions that now we were reduced to bickering like little children about personal accounts, combined sku sales, dubious install base metrics and different time periods. So many unrelated tangents were introduced and what for I ask? My guess is that there must have been a lot of pain attached to my original numbers, which were irrefutable. If you read the comments pre 2.7, you will note that my post was a direct response to fallacious arguments and blatant falsehoods, which I undeniably corrected. If any of the people in this thread had any integrity (sans Air) they would have simply responded with: "Oh. Thanks for the correction, Karl. The report you have provided and the statements you make are correct and you have proven us wrong. MS is indeed the biggest earner for EA by a long shot! Well done, Karl" If just ONE person had done this, then this thread would never have happened! INSTEAD, go back and look at what this pathetic thread has become, because people got their fragile and denial-based-PS3-egos in a knot! Pathetic.
did you miss it. I also said “ultimolu” was correct when Q1 + Q2 for ALL the PS brand is compared against ONLY the 360, but it was an UNFAIR comparison. I also stated the 360 beat the PS3 overall, to quote: “EA do make more money on the 360, they should do, as there is a larger installed user base”. You say I put spin on this. I’ll repeat it, EA made more on 360 than the PS3, where’s the spin? Perhaps it was the installed user base comment you didn’t like, putting both level pegging, as you only want to see the 360 out in front? I was trying to be unbiased, i've neither favoured the PS3 or the 360 in that user base scenario comment. Your correct in your first post here, and others should of just said thanks Karl, your post shows EA made more money on the 360. The thread did unfortunately go further though, I came into it at the end. You say you find it sad to bring up all these different permutations, of combined sales, and installed base numbers etc. However, your now saying 360 + PC sales for EA beats all the PS brand. But didn’t you say comparing combined sales was sad? The PS2 is a last generation console that software wise is seeing slowly dying sales, why bring it up? I thought you wanted a fair comparison between the 360 and the PS3, not spin. EA figures are not the subject either, this topic is “Activision Expects PS3 Growth to Outpace Xbox 360 This Year”. Which is why I used your EA figures to show a similar pattern that Activision are seeing, by using the very important YoY% change, you didn't comment on this. You say your studying Finance at University (maths, statistics and accounting). I also studied economics for a degree at Uni, it can’t of changed that much in 17 years. All variables such as installed base, time periods, growth etc. are important in predicting future sales revenue. But you want to ignore them? Activision predict change based on all these permutations that their quarterly results have shown. Your fixated only on the EA figures. I could use your wording here, which sounds insulting to me "fragile denial based 360 ego". Instead i'll say, "can you not except that the PS3 has been doing well this year for said companies". EA did well sales wise for the PS3, even if the 360 did better for EA this year money wise. Why cant next year that be the case for the PS3, for either EA or Activision? When some disagreed with your EA figures, this thread turned pathetic. But you used two accounts to keep this thread going on longer than it should of. You want your use of two accounts within a thread to go unchallenged, even when you consistently challenge others for multiple accounts. Am I not permitted to reply to your comments about why I questioned your second account? I did finish with saying that i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, no smear campaign. i.e. “lets move on”. So I did just that, I moved on to the topic, but your reply brings your second account back to the conversation. Who’s sore? Now you’ve used all you bubbles up on your Junkac1 account. So lets move on, agreeing to agree on some points, and agreeing to disagree on others. I wont be bringing your second account up in future, unless of course you do. If you truly want to move on, do so. You have shown recently a civil dialogue can exist between us, I would like to think that your actions now will confirm that this will still be the case, so no PM messages? If you disagree with this post, just hit disagree. Adults can except others have different opinions, but hurling insults or abusive PM messages is better left to immature teenagers. By the way, the agree is from me, as I agree with most of your post.
About there being downgrades for 3rd party titles on other systems. This is just the beginning.
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