DICE is holding a Battlefield 5 survey now, & some members of the community have spoken out about it and just wants them to make a good game, and not base their game on "system analysis" and microtransactions.
EA no longer care about making great games like they use to. Games from the mega drive era like desert strike and all the way up towards the end of last game was when they cared about gaming. But since then we have seen them become more and more interested in shareholders and investors money pouring in than they are with customer satisfaction in their products. I'm actually glad to have seen their share prices have fallen in the past 12 months by almost half, as this could possibly force investors to ask for a better product out of EA in order to win back players. But this is EA we talking about so I don't have high hopes they will change soon.
EA was the best during the PS2 era. I never played any EA games for SNES.
Yeah the PS2 era was great for them, I still go back and play games like SSX 3
EA Sports in the 90's was great. The Maddens, FIFA, NHL 94'. Need for Speed & Road Rash for 3DO. Mutant League Football...
@remixx116 SSX Tricky and SSX 3 are some of the best games of all time. It's easy to forget that EA of all companies was responsible.
EA is a shell of its former self, banking in a large sum amount of money and now their goal is to please shareholders. To their defense making games has become expensive, but time and time again we have studios proving them that you don’t need MT to be successful. EA to me has become one of those No name indie devs we get from time to time who are obviously just trying to get a quick buck.
@Chaos_order SSX Tricky is the best Snowboarding game, I was so addicted to that game and hoping for a remaster.
Shame. You missed out on some true classics from back in the day. Ps2 era was incredible though especially like others have said SSX series. But even up till last gen they had some good titles like Mass effect 2. Since then though we've seen them become more and more greedy by being more interested with investors rather than the consumers.
@Chaos_Order Loved SSX3 and Tricky! SSX Tricky 2 2019: "This game is our recital, DLC's very vital To steal (Your dime), pull off (That crime) It's Tricky is the title, here we go.. It's Tricky to steal your dime, pull off that crime as if you're blind It's Tricky, it's Tricky (Tricky) Tricky (Tricky) It's Tricky to steal your dime, pull off that crime as if you're blind It's Tricky, it's Tricky (Tricky) Tricky (Tricky)..."
Megadrive days with Desert strike and jungle strike. EA was a sign of quality back then, Electronic Arts they gave a shit about the art form. Those days are long gone
Is it a coincidence that this all happened when Andrew Wilson became CEO? He was the one who shoehorned Ultimate Packs in FIFA, right?
I'm sure the devs care, but with it lead by purely business men that know nothing about games, who are just investor's bitch. This is what you end up with
EA didn't care back then!
EA killed C&C and burnout I am not sure I can ever forgive them for that. I got BF1 on sale and I thought it was a good game. BFV just seems to be really buggy, I got it for 30 bucks and apart from that it is still quite a fun game, I dont care about any of the SJW crap or unrealistic details there are no realistic fun shooters because real war is not fun. I just wish they would give their teams time to make quality games, they have talented devs but seem to constantly restrain them by not giving the dev time needed or relying too much on focus testing or worrying about inclusion make a great game and everyone will want to play it
Yeah, I remember Desert Strike and The Immortal from Megadrive times in particular. Most of my fond memories of EA though are from the years I had a Commodore 64. It's sad to see a company that was there from pretty much the beginning turn into what it is today and it's even worse to see them drag down or abandon franchises like Command and Conquer, Dragon Age, Mass Effect and Dead Space. The interesting single-player Star Wars that must have been quite far in development was canned too. It's like they're allergic to anything that doesn't have multiplayer/co-op and microtransactions. I'd love to think they'll change ways but if they do it'll be like doing a u-turn in an oil tanker. As for the survey, I wonder if one of the questions asked was, 'Do you like it when we call you racist and misogynistic and then tell you not to buy the game?'.
My God I'm so tired of hearing about them blaming a lack of Battle Royale for their failed game. It just shows how out of touch they are. It's like they think everyone liked everything else in the game, but no Battle Royale was the deciding factor for crap sales. I mean come on. They can't really be that blind....
No but BR mode at the start would have been great.
Sure. But anyone paying even a little attention to the internet when the first BF5 teaser released knows that many fans decided not to buy this game the second they saw a woman with a prosthetic arm fighting on the front lines in WW2.
@CorndogBurglar, Yeah, I ended up buying the game anyways using some rewards points when it was already 50% off . . . came out to $5. I would have bought it at launch if it was just a good WW2 Battlefield game. That initial trailer just completely set the wrong tone and killed off any hype I had for the game.
I doubt EA actually believes that, I think they are just trying to convince shareholders
The thing is, the game didn't even fail, It still sold millions of copies. It's just that EA are so split from reality that multiple millions isn't enough for them anymore. Over 7 million copies is a failure to them!.......7 million!! Only EA would see that as a failure.
Yeah that is the reason they killed off so many of my favourite game franchises. I loved dead space, the first and 2nd are master classes in survival horror. Its such a shame
And things are about to get worse for Dice because Respawn effectively killed any chance of BF5s BR mode being a success.
Don’t use games as a vehicle to push your political agenda might be a good idea as well. They tried to appeal to a larger audience but crapped on their core fans in the process.
Actually they tried to appeal to non gamers and a smaller audience. The larger audience doesn't want the bs in the game.
That's true I don't even know wtf LGBT is are whatever I mean really out here in the real world nobody cares get your butt kicked trying to play victum all the time cuz gay are whatever....nobody cares ur gay good for u but no u sit on the computer all day acting like u speak for everybody and next thing u know lqbgt this and that wtf is a LQBT thats... sorry lol
I dunno. For BFV, they appealed to a more core audience and I think this is part of why it "failed." I, for one, liked BF3, BF4, etc. more than BFV. I know taste is subjective, but the formula was working before, why change it this much?
Agreed...BF1 I think honestly is a large part of why BF V is failing. (Along with the other obvious reasons.) A lot of the core fan base got turned off by the dumpster fire that was BF1 and just didn't bother with BF V at all. Honestly at this point they need a Bad Company 3 and they need to knock it out of the park. Blend BC2 and BF4 and you will have the perfect game.
Battlefield is the last link between me and EA. I didn't buy V, was hugely disappointed in 1. If the game doesn't return to 3/4/BC1&2 I'm done with them forever most likely.
I have no idea how to reply to you, Sircolby45. Haha! I feel that if EA remasters BC2 properly (as in add all DLC, remaster the graphics like in RE2R, etc.) they can have a hit. If they do that, they'd reap a lot of goodwill, and maybe have an idea how to replicate the magic.
They tried to appeal to a audience that don't play the game. How braindead can they get?
I have no problem with them trying to expand the audience but it should not be at the expense of the gamers who made the series a success and supported it all along.
I feel like this is the way most games see their downfall. Trying to appeal to more while forgetting your core fans. I wonder if the survey will even make them think about the actions they've taken with games recently. Companies always claim to change direction for the best interest of the game until it backfires...
Yeah halo 4 did that by trying to appeal to the COD audience.
I hope they continued to get called out and their sales drop. The more this happens, the more EA take notice. When they take notice they will eventually have no choice but to listen. It's the only way to get EA's attention now.
Look att Bad company 2, copy!
Bu...bu...we don't understand why people liked it...
Lol! Judging by the way they been acting this gen i dont think they understand much of anything!
I actually only played that this gen. They really should make a new one and not fuck it up to try and regain some trust
All EA cares about is loot boxes, microtransactions, and exploitive ways to make money. They don't care if the game is good or not, they just want the gamers money.
i for one got bored of the same old
We gotta say make a good game that isnt forcing an agenda. They just lecture us now a days
Bad Company 3 would have shattered sales for this year's iteration but EA is too foolish to recognize what a gem it is.
Gotta imagine most filled in " what did that wokiness get you?"
Dice has lost their way, since battlefied 2 the play has gotten faster and faster, strategy has all but been takin from the game, the rock, paper, scissor decisions needed to be made are gone. Everything that was great about the game has been watered down for casuals. The soul of battlefied has been lost and i am sad to see it. I have bought every bf since 1942 and i can say since battlefied 2, i have played each new game less. Go back to your roots dice!! You in no man's land right now, dont listen to everyone just make a good game for your players!
Easy, take Bad Co 2’s MP Upgrade the engine to new Frostbite and you pretty much there.
Except the snipers mortars
I'm not sure DICE can really do anything due to EA. No matter what feedback players give, no matter if DICE fully intends to make a great game with amazing ideas, it will always be undermined by EA. They'll need to design the game as a platform for micro-transactions, budget will be cut to silly levels to get the biggest return, and content will be cut to sell back at a later date through DLC and season passes. You can't make any sort of good game of an existing franchise with these types of restrictions.
Why they keep doing WW1 or 2 stuff, we never ask for another, what fans want is a new bad company or another sequel to BF2. this is much to ask??? gee....
Wish I was an EA top shareholder so I could share some of the good and constructive feedback I hear online. Keeping both the earners and gamers happy.
Didn’t they tell us not to buy it if we didn’t want a SJW retelling of WWII?
don‘t blame their moves, each and every one of us would go the same way if offered the chance. what i don‘t get is why you all are still buying their prducts and afterwards are throwing tantrums about it when you knew exactly what you‘d be getting? in my book this is insanity by definition. don‘t buy and see them change their ways. the way you are doing it they couldn‘t care less because money is coming in.
Well I still think the games are fun, I usually buy them on sale and never buy any microtransactions, i hate the concept and have never bought one in any game. If EA released fames that were content complete and not buggy I wpuld probably pay full price but there is no sign of that happening any time soon
the most successful cosmetics in a game is in dota 2, the game is fully free but cosmetics cost a lot and people still buy them
Peaple aint playing or buying it because it's boring, well it gets boring fast with it's lack of maps and modes. It feels like half of a game maybe even less.
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