Square Enix Teases Final Fantasy X-3

Guillermo Ortega: Square Enix recently held a special Dissidia Final Fantasy NT broadcast even where it was showed the “Later Years of Tidus & Yuna” Illustration.

[jaycptza]

is this really news?

[-Foxtrot]

It had Final Fantasy X-2...it kind of wrapped up their story and they were reunited

Can Final Fantasy VIII get some love please. An animated film, a prequel game with Laguna, Kiros and Ward or a sequel focusing on the Rinoa/Ultimecia theory with them trying to stop what will happen. The game dealt with time travel so the sequel dealing with multiple realities and parallel worlds would be neat

[pietro1212]

No movie (they're all so bad), but a remake and fix up those ugly plot holes and get rid of that awful plot twist. Or maybe just a prequel with Laguna and co

[Godmars290]

You're honestly asking Square to "fix plot-holes" and "wrap things up"...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[pietro1212]

@Godmars290
All jokes aside I do agree with you though. At this point right expecting a fully finished title from Square is too much. I think the scope of the FFVII remake is too much and they'll probably run into similar issues as FFXV development (with the exception of building a new engine)

[Omnislashver36]

pietro1212

I'm doubting their issues are nearly as bad as FFXV. Tabata is not that bad of a director, but he was stuck with a really crappy engine. Crystal Tools/Luminous Engine was so bad we didn't even get MAGIC MENUS in Final Fantasy XV. Even Kingdom Hearts has magic menus.

And if you look at the FFvXIII material, it looks like half the story was missing. Stella was supposed to be a rival which meant she could have possibly been a boss and/or playable character as well. The other thing that's conspicuously missing is the enemies had almost no contact with each other or the party. This is strange because consider if FFVII didn't have the Turks being a recurring instance for example. Or any relations with Shinra. If Sephiroth had no backstory(okay, so they tried patching Ardyn's story in later, but the rest of the stuff here is missing as well though). We got almost no interaction between Ardyn, The Emporer, Aranea, Ravus, and yes, Stella. How can the enemies not talk to each other? And their relations with the party were singular instances.

This shows that Tabata knew the engine was so bad he had to replace Stella and basically half the game and rush directly to the ending. He replaced Stella with Luna who had no battles and basically no relation with the rest of the cast aside from letters the dogs sent to Noctis. This made it so Aranea, Ravus, and Ardyn could be singular battles as well. They rushed right to the end of the game.

Yeah, Tabata replaced Stella for one reason and one reason only. To rush to the end of the game and this was a decision he made pretty early on.

It's obvious that the engine here is the culprit considering we were missing two things alone: Stella and Magic Menus. THATS how bad Luminous Engine was.

But look at the progress Nomura has made by switching KH to Unreal Engine. The game was produced in 4 years after the switch and has easily the single most advanced ARPG system in history(definitely not missing magic menus of all things), supposedly a lengthy story, and impressive graphics(and if you check the Japanese trailers, they're all in 60fps as well).

The engine has to be the culprit, not the team. Since FFVIIR has switched engines, I would expect the situation to be more like KH3 than FFXV. It's certainly not going to be 10 years and it certainly won't be as messed up as FFXV.

[Godmars290]

@OmnislashVer36:
The issues you bring up where there with FF13. Rarely seen not fought, till DLC, boss characters. Issues with graphics. Content cut if not wholly altered. Everything that's been a problem even before then, and sadly the fan base has excused it allowing it to become only worse.

[Omnislashver36]

FFXIII was also on Crystal Tools though. Just like FFvXIII and FFXV(well, Luminous Engine). Their in-house engines have been crap.

And we already have confirmation of this being better with KHIII which is on Unreal Engine like I said. It's our most recent example of what their teams can do with a better engine.

As for FFVIIR being multi-part, I understand the dislike but they said each installment would be around FFXIII's length, which is like 20 hours. That's actually a good deal considering most modern AAA games are 10-15 hours these days and have far, far less developed systems than J-ARPGs like KHIII and FFVIIR. KHIII's ARPG system is far more advanced than any other ARPG system in history for example. I don't see people complaining about TLOU II, Spiderman, God of War, Uncharted, etc, and each installment in FFVIIR is supposedly going to have more and we're complaining?

I mean I also think it's partially because of branding- I'm not that naive, but from an objective standpoint versus other AAA games we're getting far, far more content and far more intricate systems as well. If we complain about FFVIIR we should be complaining about every other game on the block as well. "Why isn't this game $40 at launch?". Well, you might have a point there. But we never see that argument.

[pietro1212]

@Godmars290

Stop bullying me its just wishful thinking. lol
After FFX through XV I'm convinced that Square likes plot holes and sloppy writing. I wouldn't want a sequel though especially not one based on fan theories. As for wrapping things up Square does like to put out unnecessary sequels (that just add more questions than answers)

[Godmars290]

No bullying intended - ;p - But still, you're asking the impossible at this point. Even what's suppose to be a remake of FF7 is being hinted at becoming an open-ended sub series. The multi-part main then side games - no rel part in calling them "stories", focused on minor characters.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

They lost the source code

[rainslacker]

Dude....spoilers!!!

Seriously though, I agree. While they can certainly say what happens after that. But I hope it's more like x, instead of x2.

More likely this is just some crossover thing though.

[Godmars290]

Still hoping against reason for a sensible yet involving plot. No absolute "WTF?!" like finding out all the characters who just met for the adventure knew each other years beforehand.

[Segata]

I want a full on FFVI remake. A full budget one with turn-based mechanics.

[terrorofdeath]

Still waiting for FFIX sequel or remake. Best FF in my opinion.

[Kashima]

Please NO!

[lociefer]

Should have ended at X , X-2 completely ruined X's ending, not to mention the whole tidus zombie thing, just leave X alone !!!

[MadLad]

Yeah. But the costume system meant 14 year old Jesse had a hard on the entire time.

[RizBiz]

My name isn't Jesse, but I can confirm I had a rock-hard boner for Rikku every time she was on screen.

[AnnaDea]

These are old as f*ck, man.

https://www.giantbomb.com/f...

Over 4 years ago lol.

[LeeFender]

I guess some things get lost in time.. lol

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Interesting

[Omnislashver36]

Interesting.

[SegaSaturn669]

Pretend ffx2 and everything after didn't exist because it sucks ass and is terrible.

[Traecy]

Stop unless confirmed by S-E.

[BlaqMagiq1]

They're not teasing it. These are just some special illustrations Nomura did in his spare time.

[Snakefist30]

I rather have Final fantasy 12 sequel the ending left me angry and bitter.

[rainslacker]

12 was based in the invalice world, which is covered through ff11, and some other games I can't remember. The story itself didn't really impact the world much, and while it ended poorly, I personally feel no desire to revisit the characters.

[pietro1212]

FFXI does not take place in Ivalice.
Only FF Tactics, FFXIIRW (let's forget about that one though), FF Tactics Advance 1&2 and Vagrant Story takes place in Ivalice. There's a lot to cover with the Ivalice world i.e the fall of magicite and the Moogles dying out (which were responsible for the tech in FFXII)

[rainslacker]

I guess you're right. It's actually Vanadiel. Originally XI was supposed to take place there as I recall. I didn't realize they changed it. There was a big article about it in EGM back when the game was still in production.

[Segata]

There was a sequel on DS. I never played it but just saying. One exists.

[DevilHunterDante]

FFX ended perfectly. X-2 was not good. So please no. Dont butcher its legacy any further please.

FFX-2 needs to be retconned. Besides the premise of X-3 sounds horrible.

[Omnislashver36]

It sounds better than FFX-2 and more like FFX though. They said Yuna is a summoner again.

[spwittbold]

No thanks.

[Acecalibur]

Dont play with my emotions Square.

[Teflon02]

Man people are weird. People asked for a Remaster of a game that has a remaster currently on PS3, PS4, PC and coming to switch/xbox. What else do they want a remastered remaster? Doesn't need a remake as the games hold up fine.

[pietro1212]

It wouldn't be a remaster though considering the game doesn't exist.

[Teflon02]

No I mean, they asked for one for X and X-2. Or maybe I read wrong? In the actual article.

[pietro1212]

Oh, you're right. That is odd maybe they meant remake? Honestly, why would anyone want a remake of X-2 though.

[MadLad]

2043 is gonna be lit.

[inxine]

is there really a need for X3?

[CrystalFantasy3]

FFX-3 leads into FFVII

[Segata]

X-2 was just Charlies Angels and a bad game.

[DafunkyRebel]

Nani!!!?

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Please don't, this just adds fuel to my theory that Square-Enix doesn't know what to do with this franchise anymore.