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Sony: We haven't fallen behind in social gaming

Sony hasn't fallen behind in the social gaming race, it has insisted.

Speaking at the Gamer 3.0 conference this morning in London, which is part of the London Games Festival, Jamie MacDonald, vice president of Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios insisted that the SingStar, Buzz! And EyeToy games are "still hugely successful". ( SingStar Vol. 3 , LittleBigPlanet, PS2, PS3, PSP, SingStar , SingStar: Vol. 2)

dro  +   2662d ago
fair enough but they have fallen behind as a hole in this gen, the truth is u would not expect sony to be in the postion they are in!!!
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chaosatom  +   2662d ago
what position are they in?

They are doing fine as far as I can see.
badz149  +   2662d ago
yeah true, but...
you needed to start somewhere. maybe it was the mistake from their part at Sony to expect huge sales from the get go with that $599 price tag and that was actually quite a bitter start for them. although the PS2 also launched at a high price tag last gen, PS3 was not allowed to do such stunt this gen because of the existance of 360 and Wii at a much lower price! PS3 is dubbed to be a flop especially last year but people tend to ignore the fact that it's being sold at a similar rate as the PS2 last gen although this is not at all a guarantee for it to be the 'PS2' of this gen (just yet!)! for now, we just have to watch the progress and so far, PS3 is doing just fine (but maybe not quite in Japan) and the lineup and features are getting better.

in terms of casual games, it was never a big buzz last gen eventhough there were a lot of games available in that genre. it was never mentioned as widely as now because no console were casual-centric last gen but props to the Wii for highlighting the crowd this gen while being overpowered heavily by the other 2. but seriously speaking, there are more CASUAL CRAPS on that thing compared to the good ones! I like the PS3's and 360's approaches better in terms of casual games because they offers casual games while still heavily focus on more serious games! those 2 crowd can coexist well, right?
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chaosatom  +   2662d ago
i look at it this way.
If they didn't include blu-ray, then Ps3 would win easy because they would have launched early with a cheaper price tag.

But they decided to include blu-ray so that games could be bigger and developers could use that space to make big games.

was that wrong for Sony to do?

If Sony launched blu-ray alone than could it have stand against hd-dvd? probably not.

So Sony decided to attach it to ps3. Ps3 suffered, but ultimately blu-ray won.And now Ps3 is gaining ground in gaming division.

So Sony is now winning both ways because of the decision.
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badz149  +   2662d ago
actually I was replying to dro but you have good points over there. Sony sure did taking the long shot with the PS3 and I can see it starting to pay-off!
DJ  +   2661d ago
Same here.
The first 8 months after launch were so bad that I wasn't sure if it would even survive this generation. Now it's hugely successful, and looks to outsell the 360 on hardware for two years running, and in software as well (which is insane).
ultimolu  +   2661d ago
Everyone makes mistakes, even companies. You know, people expect Sony to be so perfect that they couldn't possibly make a mistake. They made mistakes and are learning from them.

I used to be so pissed off at them last year and barely played my PS3 because I felt they screwed up so badly. Now, I love my PS3 and buy as many games as I can afford for it.

They're coming around and that's something to applaud for.

I also love the fact that they see Nintendo and Microsoft as competition but in a friendly sense.

It makes me wonder why the hell Microsoft needs to trash talk Sony every five seconds when Sony sees them as a friendly competitor in the gaming industry.
ultimolu  +   2661d ago
karl...what can I say about you?

Read what I said again dear and open thy eyes. I said Sony has made mistakes but they're making up for them. That includes being arrogant! Sony has not really trash-talked Microsoft in a while. Why is it that every time I mention Microsoft, you have to imply 'b-but Sony did it too!' Microsoft has been trash-talking Sony for a good while now and they *still* haven't stopped.


I could go on and on about this but of course...I'm not you.

Your links merely made me laugh.
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karlostomy  +   2661d ago
well I guess the *slight* difference between my comment and your comment was that I never implied that MS did or did not do anything.

that was just YOU, babe.

Let me quote you: "It makes me wonder why the hell Microsoft needs to trash talk Sony every five seconds when Sony sees them as a friendly competitor in the gaming industry."

I never denied MS trash talks Sony.... after all they deserve it!

My comment was just setting the record straight. Sony trash talks like an angry hooker!
....a point which you were forced to acknowledge AFTER my post. :)

Thanks for your reply, snookums xx
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ultimolu  +   2661d ago
Lol, so they both talked trash.
Difference is, Sony learned their lesson.
Microsoft didn't.

Nice try sugar dumplings. :)
Fallen_Angel  +   2661d ago
SingStar, Buzz! And EyeToy games are "still hugely successful

What buzz ? Seriously when have you ever heard anyone talk about eyetoy ? There is also like zero hype for sing star hell I dont even know if they are making about sing star game
karlostomy  +   2660d ago
i love it when you call me sugar dumpling, princess
grrrrr! am getting all excited!

BA-DUM TISH  +   2662d ago
Only a fool would say Singstar isn't successful
Lord Shuhei Yoshida  +   2661d ago
PP and Jolly1 have said stuff like that before
JOLLY1  +   2661d ago
I have never said anything bad about singstar at all. People were just saying that lips is copying singstar. I said that singstar wasn't the first karaoke on consoles. As a matter of a fact singstar is quite good and quite successful.
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Lord Shuhei Yoshida  +   2661d ago
Whoops I meant Jolly2 XD
JOLLY1  +   2661d ago
rriigghhtt...... Keep trying.
GiantEnemyLobster  +   2661d ago
Yeah, right
Sony? Social gaming?

Last time I checked, PStards were a bunch of nerds who sit in their mommy's basement til the wee hours of night playing their little shovelware games. Quite the opposite of social i'd say.
nonAsianDroid  +   2661d ago
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FBl  +   2662d ago
Can't disagree with Sony
xanith83  +   2662d ago
A group of xbot owners are trying to sue M$ due to the RROD!!! WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!!! Step your game up M$..
bluecapone  +   2662d ago
sony has fallen behind alot this gen so many empty promises
ActionBastard  +   2661d ago
Name them.
cmrbe  +   2661d ago
If you overpromise
and undeliver. At least you delivered soemthing.

If you don't promise anything new then you don't get anything.
DJ  +   2661d ago
They promised us two HDMI ports
And I want them, dammit! Nevermind that i only have one HDTV. =P
00  +   2661d ago
"If you overpromise

and undeliver. At least you delivered something"

I'm sorry but that is the most stupid thing I've read on N4G in awhile, I would rather be kept in the dark and get stuff I wouldn't expect(FF13) Then get told all these promises only to experience half of what was promised.
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cmrbe  +   2661d ago
put it this way.

if you promise 50 things and delivered say 15 of them then that is better than promising nothing and you get nothing. How is that stupid?.

Edit: OO. I am sorry but 15 != 0 and i don't understand your logic with what you just posted. If you are talking about getting peoples hopes up then i agree but i wasn't talking about that.

Here are two pratical example.

1. Sony promised 2 HDMI ports but ended up with 1 port. The only console with a HDMI port until the elite.

2. Sony promised home which is something that hasen't been done before on console and is set to fuse online social community with gaming. Its free and its coming. What about MS and Nin?. No promise = 0.

I understand if you are talking about hype and the letdown from delays but i wasn't commeting on that.
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00  +   2661d ago
"delivereing 15 of your promises out of the 50"
Is just has as bad as promising nothing and get nothing, At least the other option you no your getting nothing then being tricked by all the will Have or will get.
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ultimolu  +   2661d ago
...When has Sony promised anything?

Nobody seems to be answering this question. I would say in some ways they stumbled but they never promised anything.
SL1M DADDY  +   2661d ago
Sony never promised anything...
They may have set the bar higher than they could reach but never once did I ever hear a press conference where they got up on stage and made a promise. Sorry, but the drama here is so thick you could spread it on toast. lol
xenogamer  +   2661d ago
Hi i am new, ive been reading this site for 6 months and never really made an account. Just wanted everyone to know.
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dro  +   2661d ago
Action Bastard
1. Home, yes we know its still coming out but do u thhink people would have cared that much about it if they found out it would get delayed this much!!!!

2. killzone 2, yes we all know the game looks amazing even tho they did not match the trailer they showed but do u think people would have been excited for killzone 2 if they found out at e3 2006/7 that it will be getting relased in 2009(dont announce ur games to early if u know it is gonna get delayed)

3. psn, yes we know it has improved alot since it first came out but the truth is live is still better;i know u can argue its free but the people who pay for live dont complain about it not beign free, sony should have launched with all the things they updated throw firmware updates.

4.the cell.the cell is amaizing(i have mgs4 so i know y i said that!!) but with devs finding it hard to make games on do u think it is really worth it if it is only gonna get used by first party devs and not multi plat..!!!

5.motion control, u cannot act like the sixassis was not ment to have the type of impact the wii controller is having. i played uncharted and i can tell u that when i was using the motion control to throw bombs it was not good at all, and i tried to use it to drive in burnout but it controlled crap,i also tried it in lair which also controled crap, i also tried to use it in gta 4 to fly choopers and drive but it also controlled crap. in fact the only time i liked using that feature was in resistance1 when u have to shake the pad bcuz ur on fire.
gumgum99  +   2661d ago
Wow, just wow. THis guy is very niice. Not a hint of arrogance or spite for the competition.

In fact, he complimented his competitors..all of them.
bomboclaatgamer  +   2661d ago
i dont know y, but i have no interest in ps3 nor its games.
Spike47  +   2661d ago
Sony is
doing fine, but if they could've found a way to not make such a poor launch then they would be alot better and would still be on their high throne.
dro  +   2661d ago
LMAO at xenogamer..... he got 4 disagree just for letting us know hes new!!!
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cmrbe  +   2661d ago
I am interested in why you said Sony have fallen behind this gen.
shutupandplay  +   2661d ago
I`ll answer for him.
Last gen, ps2 was the standard. Everybody had one. (I was a loyal ps2 fan)
This gen 360 is the standard, and a huge chunk of ps2 owners made the initial switch and stayed there.
cmrbe  +   2661d ago
1. 20 million x360 owners is only 16% of the PS2 userbase. You seriously can't claim that this is a big chunk of the PS2 userbase.

2. Do you believe that these 20 million x360 users are all former PS2 owners. What about the 26 million xbox userbase and what happened to them when the xbox was discontinued in 2005?.

3. The x360 is almost 3 years old and still 5-6 million behind the xbox userbase with a bigger game selection and twice as cheap compare to the PS3. 199 is mass market price.

4. The PS2 is still supported and still going strong. contrary to what you said. Most PS2 owners still haven't migrated yet.

5. The standard console won't be known until at least 60% of last gen gamers have migrated imo. If add all the PS3,x360 and wii userbase you would find that it only accounts to about 30% of last gen gamers.

Don't be to haste. Saying the x360 is the standard now is like saying the Dreamcast was standard back in the early stages of last gen console war.
Parapraxis  +   2661d ago
I'm glad Sony realizes how important games like Buzz! & Singstar are. Now if only they would actually start SUPOORTING Singstar in North America.
The bi-weekly updates are often delayed (or completely omitted) and the song selection is very poor (Mostly UK-centric artists) And NO QUEEN pack for NA, while the UK got it.

I love Sony's more casual/party games, but damnit make me want to play them! Rock Band and Guitar Hero are whoopin Singstars butt in the DLC area.
Spike47  +   2661d ago
make that five
Fountainhead  +   2661d ago
Xbox Live >>>>>>>&g t; PSN by a country mile.
DJ  +   2661d ago
So cross-game voice chat is worth $50 a year?
'Cause that's the only feature that XBL has over PSN right now. Everything else is identical and Free on the PS3's Online Network.
Serjikal_Strike  +   2661d ago
If Sonys fallen behind
Whos taken the step foward? Microsoft? I dont think so!! Ps3 will have GOTY 2008 and 2009!
amilimos  +   2661d ago
Off Topic but ...
pls take a look at this new Killzone 2 Trailer ... simply amazing imo ..:} 2009 baby !!!!
DJ  +   2661d ago
That was amazing!!
Serjikal_Strike  +   2661d ago
Nice find on the video...simply amazing! feb 2009 cant come soon enough!
Bubble for you on that one!
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amilimos  +   2661d ago
well thank u ...
bubbles to u as well and to Sony :}
vdesai  +   2661d ago
Social Gaming? WTF?
Xander-RKoS  +   2661d ago
social gaming is the future
Games are becoming more widespread, and social gaming is the easiest way to get people hooked onto gaming, whether it be Guitar Hero, any of the Wii series games, or Buzz.

Being complete dedicated to 10% of the market is a bad business choice, hopefully Sony can pick up the ball again and deliver some excellent social games to accompany God of War and LBP.

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