Fallout 76 is available right now on both retail and digital platforms, however, the physical version is next to useless if you plan to use it to install the game quickly.
Physical is an outdated, inferior method of distribution. Expect more of this in the future. The next step will be retail packaging just a box with a download code in it before we just finally go into the all digital future.
I believe it was like this with black ops 4 recently. the physical disc only had a fraction of the full content and people had to practically dl the whole game anyway just like those who buy digital. Spyro is also doing it with the physical not being the same build as the digital and only having 1 game on the disc. Funny how both of those are from Activision....
No one argues about what is more relevant. The argument is that people like to collect physical pieces, and that it's an extra burden of wait time to download the entire game when more can be included on the disc.
Publishers will still do limited edition collectors items, just as music labels release exclusive vinyl LP's and cassettes these days.
Everything you just stated, is completely wrong in every sense of the word. People like you are why companies get away with bad consumer practices. Physical was, is, and will always be superior because it's not 100% tied to a service or in the hands of a company that can flip the switch to disable it. That alone make it the better option, along with other benefits.
I think the problem is no advancement in physical media. We've had blueray forever it seems
We just got it last gen, and that was only PlayStation.
I can walk into a store, find a game on a Walmart shelf for $15 that's $40 on PSN or Steam. Forgive me if I don't find that inferior.
Keep on dreaming, itll never happen. If it does, there will be alot of gamers including myself that wont participate in that digital nonsense. Useless and zero resale value. No thanks!
Not sure you understand the meaning of outdated. Obsolete would be a better word to use, but considering physical is still the primary way games are sold on consoles, I'd say that's not the case. Being inferior is subjective, and they'll both have their pros and cons. To me, the pros for physical far outweigh the pros of digital, because all digital really offers me is the ability to not have to switch discs. I do expect more.of this kind of stupid crap in the future. I also expect me to not support those.games, even if I want them...like I'm doing with the recent spyro reboot. Not sure why you'd care so much about killing the physical market that you'd be so adamant about saying how outdated it is. It's sad that people today think that taking choices away is a good thing.
Considering most of the world do not have access to the sort of internet required to go 'digital only' this is an absurd comment. A 50gb day 1 download would take me and many others 2 days of continuous downloading. Not to mention physical is still 50% cheaper in countries like Australia (where, as above our internet is woeful) so going digital won't be happening anytime soon.
Physical is a outdated, inferior method of distribution & you are a failed abortion. The last part was a little rude, but I'm in a shitty mood right now, a friend of 28 years was just killed by a drunk driver.
This is an online only game so it's not such a big deal. Offline single player games that do this is a different matter all together.
Big facts. Multiplayer only titles should always be bought digital.
What sense does that make? If I find a multiplayer-only game like Overwatch for $20 or less physically, I'm going to buy it and save a lot of money.
This is okay but Spyro hell nooo that's not okay
But why? That's 25 or 50GB all going to waste. Why did they even print a disc then? Just put in a download code if they were gonna pull something like this. At least it would (should) have been cheaper.
Because then it would be digital and no disc required. Some people buy physical to resell.
And for those who don't resell? They just have to suck it up now? That's awful.
I'm not defending what they did here, it is stupid as hell.
What's the point?
What is the actual fu*k is this??? I hope this game fail so hard with all these recent news.
I wonder if the media will give Bethesda a bunch of free passes.
They won't even mention this
Best RPG ever(althought its a shooter) 10/10 - IGN.
Free pass or not, people shouldn’t act like this is the norm. What is the point of buying physical if the entire game must be downloaded?
Even MMORPGs as FFxIv didn't go this far. This need to stop now. Online only story driven game is wrong if it spin off I don't give shit but it a prequel to singleplayer game so it should be singleplayer, but these westren ignorant didn't choose just to enforce online only but to release useless and very consumer humlating physical copy. Gamers need to step up and kill these practices or the industry will be as lazy and disgusting as never.
Sad thing is this had the great concept of being a single player spin off like New Vegas with its own spin...a prequel to when vault survivors first emerged from the vault Instead it’s wasted on this shit
Well, it is an online game like COD black ops 4, so I suppose no big deal. That Spyro mess though is BS. Can’t even play single player without a huge update, just delay it!
True, and patches are a given for these kinds of games. And one would need a connection either way. But.it can take a while download that much data for.some.people, and a smaller patch gets them.playing quicker.
They know that if this game was sold as a digital only game that it wouldn't get near the sales as if they falsely sold it with a physical option so they pulled this shit. Falsely sell a physical edition, while in reality it is still a digital exclusive game.
I think these kinds of physical copies which amount to nothing more than an installer need to be banned by the console makers. Either that, or a big ads disclaimer somewhere on the box which says what it is. Won't happen without some sort of intervention, but as a collector, I wouldn't want to inadvertently support this practice with day one purchases.
Boycott every publisher that does this. This is wrong on every level. If this works for sales, more and more will do it, artificially killing disc games. Things like online passes died because they realized it didn't work, make sure this doesn't work too.
Would be nice if publishers would pull their heads out of their asses & realize that many people hate online gaming & that millions of people have no access to high speed Internet.
fallout76 is a no-go, but look at their distribution model. that‘s the future right there ;-)
What the actual f**k is going on with AAA publishers this month lol. They are all hot messes right now. Square Enix, Bethesda, Blizzard, Activision all having disaster after disaster.
If anyone can think of more, let me know. So far we have: -Fallout 76 bug that deletes the game during the beta -Spyro, Fallout pretty much having no data on disk and forcing large downloads -Square Enix canceling all FFXV DLC, then promising subscriptions going forward and doubling down on DLC (lol) PC version canceled, director leaving, posting $33 million in losses -Do you not have phones? -Bethesda confirming still using their almost 20 year old engine for ES6 And on the flip side people are actually happy with Microsoft at the moment XD
I'm pretty sure that last sentence is one of the seven signs of the apocolypse..
Hitman 2 is great, so there's that at least lol
A few years after the next-gen consoles are out physical games will take a big hit as we will most likely see more games with 4K texture assets. Games will become so big that they wont fit on one disc. And the patches will just continue to increase. By buying physical games your basically buying a plastic cover,disc and game cover paper. Kinda pointless when you think about it...
There are already discs that have 128GB capacity, produced by none other than Sony
Blu ray can support more than what we are currently getting, and the larger download sizes are probably going to.hurt digital more than help it.
Absolutely pathetic. They are enforcing digital
What a waste of a blu-ray disc. 🙄🙄🙄
All ownership of all things will eventually be eliminated... this is the will of the party, peasants will be lucky to RENT everything, even their homes, cars, appliances, entertainment, you will OWN nothing servant except your debt to the system that enslaved you Welcome to 1984
Ah, another person who clearly didn't read 1984.
its the same thing with spyro here what i said: and this is where BDXL will work for next gen(ps5 and xbox 4) one disc can hold 100GB or 128GB
This game should be called: "Fallout 76:Consumer Please stay away from me I mean it! Edition"
Yes I see what they are trying to do, sorry Bethesda and Activision alike, I will BUY my games physical because I like to actually OWN them. If the full game isn't on there, I'm sure somewhere a deathly lawsuit can happen, not all of us have internet after all.
I will always buy physical unless reasons, but that kind of sucks. At least it doesn't try to install the whole game first and then download. It doesn't exactly bother me, but my question is, why make everyone have to redownload the whole game? Why not only include the assets needed in the patch?
So what if you do not have an internet connection? I truly do not look forward to an all digital gaming scenario, WE WILL REGRET not fighting for this not to be the case. It is sad when the casual market is making the decision on something they they do "casually" can't stand those folks. They are the reason why these companies make such silly decisions. We should do our very best not to remove choice, we do not want Netflix style of gaming because I do not want to pay a monthly fee to play games. I want to pop my game in and play whenever I want.
I doubt you'd be buying a mp game if youndont have a internet connection. However, for sp games, like the recent spyro game, it means you couldn't play it, or you couldn't get all the content. It used to be that outside sp games, a game had to be playable without a patch. Mp games were allowed to enforce patches for security and keeping things equitable among the user base, but games with both modes required offline content be playable. Bugs could exist, and content could be added, but nothing to the extremes that Activision is pulling with spyro.
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