See for yourself just how much the visuals in Fable II have been improved over the first game.
Wow, a game coming out 3 years into the console's lifecycle compared with the first iteration that came out 4 years ago looks better!?! wha!? *amazed*
Exactly. What a pointless video, of course Fable 2 is going to look better.
4 years and one console cycle later and almost no improvement in graphics can be seen. Fable II dropped the ball in the graphics department. :s
Damn, you beat me to the smart-ass comment. Oh well, bubbles anyway.
@Counter_ACT: I can't believe you got disagree.
Fable 2 isn't about the graphics anyway, it's about depth and possibilities. Yes, some games are all in it for graphics but they may lack length/storyline/possibilities . Fable does things a little bit differently;)
For the first Sony fan that disaggrees - what about last gen when the PS2's graphics were less than the original XBOX's graphics...it was all about game play then....right?
- Graphics are just one piece of the puzzle -
@ ericnellie I totally agree, take Crysis: Warhead for example. It's very short, 4-5 hours max at Veteran level. But the game is presented in such a beautiful way I can forgive that! It's the same with Fable II, graphics may not be the best we've ever seen, nor is it the biggest leap in graphics, but it's the feeling I get when playing Fable that's just awesome! :D
Fable II graphics are an embarrassment to the 360 which is capable of so much more. On the other hand, they significantly improved the broken gameplay of the original and from that stand point it's reassuring that there's stuff out there that's fresh, different, and thought provoking to break the nearly endless monotony of space marine shooters.
Why are they showing the worst possible scenes of Fable II ? Why not showing the snowy town (just at the beginning) or the forest in daytime :S
Graphics are important. I think the Wii fans in 2006 who said graphics are good enough are eating back there words, and do you see any true Wii fans defending the Wii in the forumes? No, they're all gone. Graphics are one piece of the puzzle and if your graphics aren't to par then your game isn't complete. That is why it isn't getting perfect scores. Also the physics, animations, and AI usually go together. When the game sucks vuisually the physics, animations, and AI usually suck too. And PS2 had the game with the best graphics last generation with God of War 2. No xbox game looks better than God of War 2.
Having bad graphics is like writing an essay and forgetting to hit the spell check button and checking grammar mistakes. If the content is good but the grammar is bad your not getting an A on that paper. The sameway is for games if you don't polish your game it's not going to get a perfect score.
If you think game-play is 100% of the experience then pick up a Nintendo Wii that console is all about game-play. Nothing brings you closer to slashing a sword to playing golf. As for the others the PlayStation 3 and XBOX 360 cost $399.99 graphics better be up there.
The PlayStation 3 always get bashed because people keep thinking graphics are better on the XBOX 360. Now when an exclusive title comes out for the XBOX 360 it isn't about graphics. I do believe game-play is important, but graphics do play an important role too. Otherwise I would have a Wii where it's only about game-play.
With this is a terrible port and the ps3 was the lead, i will not buy this crap, if the dev's are going to be lazy then they will not get my money. Ohhh thats right this is a 360 exclusive well and pc.
Graphics do matter if you've paid for it. Of course if you buy a PS3 and are promised high definition, crisp clear graphics, thats what you want to see. I see the Wii as an innovative console and thats all. Do remember, the Wii is new-gen, not next-gen. All Wii owners and what not would love to have HD graphics which will happen in the future, but its not hard to deal with last-gen graphics, because a good game is a good game. Zelda was fantastic, did it look effing superb? Hell no, but I've had more fun with that then 80% of the Xbox 360 games I own. The 20% being Lost Odyssey and Halo 3 online. Fable 2 doesn't look AMAZING, but its definitley beautiful. I'm all for these types of graphics. I mean, millions of people play World of Warcraft and games like Counter-Strike: 1.6, but are there graphics nice? Nope, World of Warcrafts graphics are all cheesey and plain, whilst CS: 1.6's graphics are just plain old and outdated. But, their some of the best PC games to be made.
Boston! Man I fücking love that city, favourite place in the US! Hope to go back someday. Off topic? Lol.
that is one terrible simile. A better one would be: Graphics like writing an essay and not laminating it before turning it in. It makes it look pretty but wont effect your grade any.
The place i grew up in, the place where Im from. But yeah, I've been saying this game has weak graphics for a while now. And the content looks weak too.
You PS3 fanboys are hilarious. The truth is, Fable 2 is awe inspiring in certain areas, and average in other areas. But Fable 2 utterly destroys Fable 1 in the graphics arena wholly. I've got both.
Did you not read what I wrote? I said graphics are "just one piece of the puzzle". There are a bunch of things that are important in making a good game;)
Why don't you go pick up a Wii;)
Fable II is definitely more detailed and has more graphical effects, but the overall difference isn't that big IMO. Looks like they polished up the engine a bit, but that's it... Expected more, I'll just wait for the PC version! :D
Fable 2 has to be played to be appreciated!! There are so many things to do, and so much depth than any RPG that ive played to date. Im not saying its the BEST RPG, but it is among the best. And graphically, it is a BIG LEAP. Just get the game, and explore some of the caves and dungeons............you'll change your mind ;)
@ arrrgh [Source please? Didn't knew that.] Found it: http://www.loinhead.net/fab... Still, I don't think it's that much of an improvement over the first Fable. It could have been much more, just look at Gears of War. Anyway, let's move on... @ navyguy21 Unfortunately I have to wait for the PC version, since I don't have a XBOX 360. Have considered getting it many times though, especially for Gears of War 2! And I believe ya, I enjoyed the first one! :D Love it! If the graphics don't do it, the music, atmosphere and endless possibilities will!
I am a software developer who designs applications in C++... I'm here to clear up a few things about engines.. 1. They're virtually ALL written in C++ (In fact, find me one that isn't)... C++ compiles to assembly language which is "machine type" language which cannot be read - it'd be pretty pointless allowing others to take your engine without making money from it... 2. Engines don't have much to do with the detail of graphics - they only run the compiled models. It is up to the creator of the models to make them detailed - I don't know much about modelling myself so I can't go into much detail here.. 3. Engines are basically the "Bare Bones" behind any game... It define the GUI Toolkit (Graphical user interface) and hosts MANY mathematical functions and lots of inbuilt algorithms and such to use assembled code in the form of models, materials, maps etc. They do not in no way shape or form define game design, graphics, sound, game play, story etc etc... What they allow things to do is allow for key inputs, automatically use assembled compiled code in the form of models, materials, maps, sounds and embed them into a GUI kit to display on screen using mathematical functions to work out what to display to the player. All game play and story line is done USING the engine, but writing a completely new source. 4. Take the Source engine for example... This is my preferred engine which I use to do a lot of my game design in. Many of you will know that the "Orange Box" bought to life a new Source Engine (Half Life 2 episode 1, episode 2, TF2, DOD:S, portal etc etc)... The engine claimed to be a "complete" re-work - however, only few minor things were changed such as the ways we can add entities into the game and spawn certain entities and load up memory locations from the DLL files. None of these had ANY impact on graphics, sound OR storyline what-so-ever. The fact that HLE1 had better graphics than HL2 was down to more detailed textures as modern PC's can now handle the load easier. 5. Another thing which people mess up on these forums is how easy people think it is to "port" one game over from Microsoft XBox 360 to the PS3 or vice versa... Some of you may know that PS3 uses a graphics engine called OpenGL (the Open source graphics engine which *Unix type systems use to interact with the graphics hardware)... However.. Microsoft being... Well.. Microsoft... Uses DirectX which is a Microsoft only application. These 2 different engines are that... They're completely different engines... It's like writing code in the Source Engine, then re-writing it to work in the Unreal engine... It's a lot more work then just a magical button called "Port"... DirectX will most likely be concentrated on more since it is also the base for any Windows PC machine - which is why most games are only compatible with Windows, NOT Linux or Mac... Just thought I had to clear things up... Thank you for reading -freddukes
And thank you for writing freddukes!
Hmm.. this only serves as a reminder of how good fable 1 looked (is that from the PC version?) Fable 2 really isn't leaps and bounds better.
Fable footage is taken from the downloadable version (Xbox Originals) running on the Xbox 360.
No differenses. just a ported and remade fable
Yep and it still outsells ps3tard games
could care less, MGS4 my little friend.
almost all games on the 360 sell better then the ps3 games. hell, even too human sold better than 90% of ps3 games...
lmfao. first of all, "could care less"? "could" saying you COULD care less implies that you could care less than you already do, implying you do care. MORON LMFAO. it's COULDN'T care less. "COULDN'T" as in COULD NOT. lmfao. what a moron u must be! second, "MGS4"? what about it? that movie no one bought? that? what does that have to do with fable? you see, fable is an actual GAME. look into it ;)
why do you idiots think sales have anything to do with how good a game is?... So the Backstreet boys are one of the greatest bands of all time then right?... the game is apparently really good...awesome...but there is no denying that it looks like a PS2 could run it...seriously God of War 2 looks every bit as good technically as Fable 2...
I would love to play Fable II. *starts thinking about buying Xbox360*
I'm quite enjoying Fable 2. The improvement that I'm most impressed with over Fable is the increase in the size of areas and the decrease in loading time. I never got very far in Fable because of that.
Art style remains the same. Both games are beautifully rendered. This Just proves that the original Fable had great graphics for its time :)
Comparing In-game cinematics with pre-rendered cinematics is always the perfect way to show a legitimate comparison.
I love Fable's art style.
Chalk this one up as a DEE DEE DEE... Did they expect it to look worse? How the hell these things get approved is beyond me. Next in the news! WATER IS WET!
They're just trying to show the differences they've made in the last couple of years between the two games. Bob Dole remembers seeing a video comparing the graphics of all the soul caliber games. It's amazing to see how much bigger Ivy's bewbage has gotten over the years. Off topic: Bob Dole doesn't get wet, the water gets Bob Dole.
Or they have chosen the worst possible Fable II scenes? Everything is dark there, and it isn't showing the fantastic landscape or the woods in daytime (Where they look the best)
fable 1 was one of the best looking, playing, and sounding games of last gen, which is why so many ppl are excited for this masterpiece's sequel. it looks SO much better. no comparison.
Eh... I kinda thought Fable 1 looked better :| Fable 2 for some reason looked a bit blurry and didn't have as much sharpness.
The graphics for Fable 2 look great to me, personally the gameplay and choices of Fable 2 just looks completely awesome.
hows the rrod
MGS4 eats fable 2 alive
LBP eats fable 2 alive
The movie no 1 bought huh then why do the xbots keep wishing they had it.
im rrod free today:) thanks for asking..
how are those weekly patches comeing? can you play socom yet or is it still dead on arival?
we want mgs4 so that we can here you sony fanatics cry on how no one is loyal to sony any more sob, sob, sob..
also to show how a 3 year old rrod system will out perform the ps3 yet again.
delay-patch-dealy-patch. thats like all i been hearing in 08 for the ps3. year of the ps3 my as$
smallbrain mode again. whats so bad about patches? I guess when cant make games better now. thanks for reminding us Again that you have a little brain, a size of a peanut.
What is wrong with Patches? At all. On WoW, do you curse life because there's a new patch out? Patches are a great thing. The firmware updates or "patches" add new things, sure, you have to download it. So what? So you won't be getting the NXE, which is an update, aka a patch by the way, because you have to download it?
backstreet boys are a great band:) anything that can sell great is great.
you ppl seem to think that a 89 is a flop, a flop isnt cause of a score its how well it sells or how bad it sells thats what defines a flop and a great game. if a game scores str8 10 on all reviewers but sells bad do you realy think they will make a sequel just cause it got 10"S? no! you sony fanatics talk out your arse like if your console of choice is your first console ever.
No one has said anything about Fable being a flop here what so ever. If a game gets straight 10s, the chances of it selling badly are next to nothing, and you say other people "talk out of their arse"? 89% is not a flop, you are correct there, but it has had some pretty mixed reviews, of course, that doesn't make it a flop, but with the hype it received, some of those lower scores are surprising indeed. Oh and by the way, the Metacritic score is now 90%.
"backstreet boys are a great band" i cannot believe so said that. i though you are only retarded, you are gay too. now i know why you like this game
but whats with the water??? it looks better on fable 1 than on Fable 2
side by side face off. videogamer are visually trying to communicate with the viewer, trying to say, "LOOK THE WATER IS SHINIER IN FAB1".
The whole point is, this video would never have existed if fable2 was visually more superior
Looks great! Better than the first which is to be expected. This game isn't about the graphics though. It should never be solely about the graphics.
Graphics is just as important as gameplay in this day and age ,
so now that another 360 exclusive kinda sucks in the graphics department it's all about gameplay.
But if a PS3 exclusive has sub-par graphics it's a flop and the PS3 is a technological failure and what not....
Graphics is the first impression you get from a game....!!!
at the 1st scene....
until i realised it was prerendered.
This video is aimed at implying the (unfortunate)similarities in visuals, thus its an attempt to cause flamewar but i have my time of modesty and im not falling for it this time.
This game is at least good i assume but I DO think visuals are just as important.
I'm not too interested in a graphics comparison. I'm more interested in a locale comparison. I've yet to pick up a copy of fable 2 cos I'm working the bank holiday weekend on a tv show so i'm too busy :( But i'm dying to see a side by side difference of areas from fable 1 and areas from fable 2 to see how much theyve changed in 500 years :P
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While PS3 owners are complaining about Fable 2's graphics, 360 fans are enjoying the game.
When Killzone 2 comes out, PS3 owners will be enjoying the game while 360 fans are complaining about the graphics. I wouldn't even try to rationalize this situation. Although Fable 2 doesn't look too different from Fable 1, which is disappointing. As long as it keeps that level of graphics and builds on the gameplay more, I'm happy. Just having your dog next to you at all times makes Fable 2 worth playing. I haven't opened my copy yet because I'm still playing GTAIV. Late bloomer I know...
There is a very clear difference between the two games. How anyone can say the Xbox version looks like the Xbox 360 version is beyond me. They share the same art style which I guess can be confusing, but Fable 2 is much more refined. I guess some people get confused since the first Xbox was a high def console. Not that you are, but some reason Sony fans think the PS3 was the first and only high def console on the market. This mentality somehow spreads and confuses people.
The graphics of Fable 2 are great, but I like the artstyle they took more. They spent some time in that department, and it shows.
I bought this game the day it came out... And all i can say is..... It was a peace of crap so many bugs and glitch's in the game i want to trade it in but ill only get half of what i payed for it. It was a wast of my time and money.
The sad thing is that Fable II could've looked like it's opening cutscene if it was in better hands
...it would have been an 8-hour point-&-click/quicktime event snoozefest...like Heavy Rain will be. Fable is in the ONLY hands that could make it the successful, enjoyable franchise it is.
This really goes to show how great the first Fable looked. The Xbox was so much more powerful than the PS2 it was almost like a half-generational jump. Anyway, I can tell you one thing--this video doesn't give a clear impression of how the game looks in real life. I'm telling you, when you see Fable 2 on your HDTV it looks beautiful. It looks worlds better than the first Fable. The art is much better, the lighting effects, particle effects, textures, foliage, and architecture all come together to create an absolutely palpable sense of atmosphere. It looks better than Oblivion in many ways. In any case, RPGs in general have never been about having the most cutting edge graphics. Fable 2's graphics are beautiful, though, and the game is amazing so far.
Actually i have to argue with the last part, as squareenix last 2 gen was known for setting new graphical standards with their rpgs, we will see what happens this gen.
Fable 2 looks really great. fantastic.
Ok it maybe have good game gameplay wise but the graphics look terrible even the graphics on fable 1 look better, it looks like it needs sharpness and the draw distance is terrible. I think why this game looks horrible it's cuz they had to compress the whole game so the graphics had to suffer in order to get the large levels that this games has to offer just like there doing it on RAGE but why compress it on 1cd just make like 3 or 4 that way the graphics wont suffer it's an RPG anyways duhhh who cares about online and it's not openworld, oh yeah i forgot royalty issuies damn MS and their crap