— Nintendo Enthusiast: Popular ROM/ISO site EmuParadise has removed its entire collection of retro games and has issued a partial "goodbye" statement.
this is a real shame, well off the thepiratebay I guess.
Exactly The Pirate Bay does have some ROM collections that other torrent sites do not.
Man, this is. A really bad thing for those who emulate, but especially bad for the archival of otherwise non-existent are essentially unobtainable games, this is a really crappy thing. This is not what most consider harmful in terms of pirating games, etc, because these games are largely not even purchasable anymore, let alone on it's original hardware, that money will never go to the devs regardless. Pretty disappointing for sure.
This is the issue I feel too. There is 1000s of games and over 40+ years of gaming history that has been archived in these files and they are all lost. It's a real shame because at a certain point you can't just Square Enix-it and keep charging for your old ass games. At a point they all need to be released to the world, like old films, poems, books, etc. I am 100% against pirating games, but preservation of history is not this. Gaming history should be shared and admired. I would love to see a database somewhere that we can access. After 10 or 20 years.... It should be free to the public in my opinion.
Nintendo did this because they are going to release other versions of mini NES systems. Scumbags!
This is where I'm torn, I highly value preservation of classic games, especially when it's hard to find a way to acquire and play them. That and Nintendo is. Reluctant to a vc (the Switch is perfect for this), especially for reasonable prices.
Emulation has effectively preserved gaming history.
This is a real shame, especially because it is the greedy actions of one that's creating this domino effect. Emuparadise held all sorts of ROM's of now defunct consoles (as in no longer in production) and whose game sales do not benefit the developers anymore. Whatever format you currently have your original games on will not last forever, hell, the former gen consoles we love, won't last forever. Sites like these keep those games intact. What are we to do now? Hunt these rom sites before they go down and dld all the games we need into a hard drive? Torrents die and aren't always reliable. It is sad to see such hard work wiped by such greed. I don't know that all the games hosted there will ever be re-released and some of them are almost impossible to find or purchase bc their cost have gone exorbitantly up. These old games should become public domain after a while if no one claims their copyright.
To be fair, so of those game developer/companies don't exist anymore. Those games at least should be public domain for the sake of preservation.
The site files been taken down from the site doesn’t mean they are lost forever it just mean we can’t access them but they can upload them to torrent sites like Pirate Bay anonymously and everyone would be able to get them and the site can’t be targeted for a lawsuit
I'd suggest using a VPN if you're not already, very easy to get DMCA notices these days.
This is a disaster...Sometimes I don't want to bust out my older consoles just to play a game. I find playing older games on an emulator so much easier and accessible to play on. I know it wasn't legal to host those games but still, I made me reminisce on some games I used to play. I can see that most of the illegal way to attain games and other sources of entertainment were been disappearing from the internet. If those publishers want me to buy their older classic game which should give it a reasonable price. For example, I refuse to pay £11.99 for Chrono trigger on steam.
The prices for old games are shocking, or in some cases, there just isn't a way to obtain those games.
When was the last time that something popular on the internet completely disappeared from the internet? Come on. The players may change; but the game remains the same.
Or £20 for FFIX.
I used to use that site years ago. It was one that consistently worked for it.
Wow! The hammer is being dropped everywhere. Now emuparadise. Good thing I enjoyed their services beforehand with forever lasting joy....wink! https://78.media.tumblr.com...
yeah, screw Nintendo upholding the law, protecting their IPs, their devs by keeping people from stealing, and leeching off of their hard work!!!!!
If EA, Konami or Activision did something like this people like you would join the band wagon... But since it's Nintendo it gets a pass? These are old games... That are no longer being sold, that many people missed because they were not born in time to play. So now they have to go buy a useless switch or something and pay for 20-30 year old games? That's pretty petty.
"If EA, Konami or Activision did something like this people like you would join the band wagon" It's illegal to download ROMs/ISOs, so... If EA, Konami or Activision did the same thing, I would be in support of them shutting people down who are breaking the law, too. "These are old games... That are no longer being sold" You can find them all over the place - stores that sell retro games, flea markets, thrift stores, etc... "... that many people missed because they were not born in time to play." That's not really the fault of the game companies, nor does that justify theft. "So now they have to go buy a useless switch or something and pay for 20-30 year old games? That's pretty petty." It's petty to think you can just steal from people simply because the game is 20-30 years old.
It's not like they would make money if i bought Megaman X for $30 off some collector which is perfectly legal, so how am i steeling?
@isarai: Please indicate where I've said purchasing the game was illegal. Downloading ROMs/ISOs is what's illegal, and stealing.
@ziggurcat, What if your after specific games, what if you can't get the console? What happens when the media is gone (it can't last forever, it should be digitised at least).
It is only illegal to download a digital free version of an item if said item can still be obtained through the proper channels. Many of the NES and SNES games are no longer in production anywhere at all so this goes beyond just upholding the law as Nin is attacking these sites for titles they both do and do not own.Secret of Evermore and Harley's Humongous Adventure for example.
“It is only illegal to download a digital free version of an item if said item can still be obtained through the proper channels.“ No. It is illegal to distribute/download ROMs/ISOs. Period. “Many of the NES and SNES games are no longer in production anywhere at all...” So what. If you search hard enough, there are venues where these games (even the increasingly rare ones) can still be legally purchased. “... this goes beyond just upholding the law as Nin is attacking these sites for titles they both do and do not own...” how is it going beyond upholding the law when those sites are guilty of breaking the law? They aren’t doing anything that they’re not legally able to do by being representatives of smaller studios or ones that aren’t even around anymore.
@finalfantasy: If you search hard enough, you can find any game you want. If you search hard enough, you can find any console you want. You are legally allowed to make a copy for your own personal use, you just can’t distribute that copy for people to download.
You're telling me Nintendo will get a percentage of a 500$ copy of an old rare game being sold on eBay? Those greedy gamers have no excuse then.
no. it's not about who gets a cut of the money. they're making efforts to shutting these things down because it's illegal. plain, and simple. most of you here really don't understand ownership rights. a game that is no longer in production doesn't mean the content creator no longer has ownership rights over the IP. a studio or publisher not receiving any money from the sale of their old game in the used game market doesn't mean that you can just steal it by downloading a ROM/ISO. and those "greedy gamers" selling that $500 copy of a rare, old game legally paid for that game, and are selling it based on the perceived market value. nice strawman, though.
Thousands of games only exist in "rom" factor, manly games from the 8 bits computer age, and many 16 bits games are also impossible to find since only a dozens were released, plus some go for as high as the sky and nor dev's nor any company at this point win any money on used games.
You really don’t get it, do you? This is about preservation and inclusion and these sites are around because the owners of the software don’t give enough of a toss to redistribute them and keep the market prices from being ridiculously inflated like they are. Are we supposed to let these works fade into obscurity because we can’t afford $1000 for that niche game from 20 years ago? No. If the law doesn’t protect everyone’s rights then the system is broken. It is a producer’s obligation to support their customers just as much as it is their right to protect their products. I bought a license for their media, and if my media breaks over time then i demand the ability to purchase another copy for my system of choice, if not? I’m looking to those who are looking out for me, and i will wave a big middle finger at the producer until they give me what i want. Stuff your law where the sun don’t shine, stop being patronizing; we know the law as much as you do but this isn’t the point.
This is a real shame. That was gaming history, available for all to discover and enjoy, when 99% of the content was already pretty much abandoned by devs and publishers, so they were never going to make any money from those titles anymore anyway. Been planning on building an emulation station for old-skool ganing, but I guess with these sites going down, that dream will now never happen, unless I buy from pirates who sell for profit, instead of getting the games from sites like these, which shared in order to keep these games in the public domain, for the love of gaming.
There are countless places where you can legally buy these games rather than illegally downloading them.
That's simply not true at all. You're spreading lies. Most titles are absolutely NOT legally available anymore, not physically, nor digitally. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Could you buy me a copy of Rule of Rose, please?
Yi-Long: There are retro game stores (multiple ones in the city I live in). Also flea markets, antique markets, and thrift stores often have old games. Those are all legal methods of purchasing old games. Edit: also places like eBay, so... don’t give me that “spreading lies” crap. @wearelegion: you can go buy it yourself: https://www.ebay.com/b/Sony...
This reminds me of my younger years where I would try to hunt down games that were impossible to get, I tried Ebay but the prices were crazy (over $100 for a PSone gamey). In my adult years I was able to get some of these games via Steam/GOG/PSN/VC (I bought all the PSone FFs and Xenogears), but others are just impossible because they weren't ported to those services or stores (so many PSone/Dreamcast games I just can't buy or play). There are even some NES/SNES games I've recently discovered and I just can't get them. And then there is the issue of region locking, some games just weren't available in some regions (I'm so glad that modern video games are fairly lax with their region locking, Playstation is a shining example of this).
Can you provide me with a translated copy of Mother 3 please?
here you go: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mo... see how easy it is to find the things people claim are no longer available?
Is this not a fake? And in the end I'm paying someone who downloaed the rom, patched it with the fan translation and stuck it on a blank cart?
@ziggurcat, Considering your stance in this discussion, I'm shocked that you just linked him a non-legit version of the game (is that really any better than pirating it youself?). Surely it's worse since the seller is making a profit off of someone else's IP, regardless of whether the developer exists anymore, that's just as morally questionable.
People holding relics hostages on ebay and selling them for huge amouns is not better,
Exactly. Actually, that seller is who Nintendo should be suing.
It really blows for those people who are trying to find games that are nearly impossible to find physically.
Nooo! Even arcade games that we were never able to play at home? Nooooo!
They need to worry more about all of the fake carts coming out of china!
Damn that’s awful I used to frequent that site back in school when I didn’t have that much money, genuinely sad to see it go.
Damn, they were a GREAT site!!!!
Yeah, I should've downloaded everything on that site while available. Also what about the music and the other things on the site.
Oh wow good thing I grabbed what I wanted before this happened.
I went to it, everything still there.
Got my NES Mini and SNES Mini a few weeks back and grabbed what I could, I even used that site for a few games. Just in the nick of time too.
Moment one goes down another site will pop up sucks because I like Emuparadise down load a few roms when I go away for work
Glad I saved all my roms
Back them up also bud.
That was possibly the best site out their for ROM's, most people will be disappointed by this news. Only the goody two shoes and depressing people who like seeing others unhappy will be enjoying this news.
Well last month I just got some CPS2 stuff for PSP from their site last month...sad really... As a guy who loves to archive his vinyl record collection this is just wrong.
I just downloaded Time Crisis and Project Titan off this the other week. I was trying my new Aimtrak. I understand emulation is illegal, but game preservation is massively important too. There needs to be a middleground over preserving the games and protecting IP
"There needs to be a middleground over preserving the games and protecting IP" there is, but people seem to think they can just take it for free just because it's old.
Seems that you have never heard of the public domain? Granted none of these roms were likely old enough to qualify. Either way, it's all arbitrary dates decided upon by faceless politicians based on their own personal(biased) morals. Just look at Steamboat Willie, all politicians agree that is should enter the public domain- but due to Disney's constant pressure, infinitely delay it. I'm just glad we're no longer paying royalties for the wheel or fire.
Public domain takes around 80 years. It's not really arbitrary, it's based on when a work will likely be no longer relevant for profit by the original owner. The timer gets reset if the owner protects their claim, or uses it in some waty
"Popular ROM/ISO site EmuParadise has removed its entire collection of retro games and has issued a partial "goodbye" statement." <-----Yeah probably thanx to losers like this
Thanks EmuParadise. You will be missed.
Why are pirated version of older games socially accepted? Doesn't copyrights apply to them?
Copyrights for a good chunk of retro titles are 75 years after the date of first publication. So, seeing that these games have only been around for a little over 30 years, yes their copyrights do still apply.
For what it's worth, Emuparadise isn't the only site that hosts ROMs. There are countless other sites and sources, Emuparadise popularity was more about convenience due to the sheer volume of files they hosted. It's not like the Emulation scene will just die overnight.
w...what.. ? thats why i couldnt download anything earlier. fk sake :(
the real issue here is, that Nintendo wont release all of their games for the new service. gems like Banjo-kazooie? lost, cause they are with xbox now, snowboard kids? pff come on. yea we're gonna see a whole lot of Mario and the lot, but not games that maybe arent as well known as those brands. i get that piracy is a bad thing, but how else can we enjoy them games? i guess its difficult as a company to let ur games just be available for free but most of those them are 20+ years old. im gutted tbh.