The multimillion-dollar ad war between Microsoft and Apple has turned nasty, with Apple firing the latest salvo in an attempt to continue to define Vista as a broken, bug-ridden operating system.
Microsoft loses as usual
Well apple is only speaking the facts there, but come on its a shamesoft product what did you expect?
But Fails like always considering all the "PC's" dont even know how to Update there's.. PC lol Dork~
apple should of delivered the death blow in that commercial http://www.roughlydrafted.c...
So that's the source of info for all anti-Vista douches...
"Let Sleeping Dogs Lie! Microsoft bragged that 83% and 89% of Vista users in a separate study would recommend it to others or expressed satisfaction with it (respectively), but it then has to point out that nearly half of those were actually only “somewhat likely” to recommend it and more than half were only “somewhat satisfied” with their experience." nuff said
Am I the only one that likes vista? I am no computer nerd but all I know is it works for me :S
Ha, a windows comercial made on a Mac. I wonder what OS was used to do schematic capture and layout for Mac hardware. Same with the CAD package used to design their products.
MS uses Apple. And you are just a weeaboo.
That is funny as hell Go Apple!! Cant wait to see Microsofts reply
Yep, Apple just proves how much better their ad team is. I knew Apple would retaliate with something better and more clever. It took Apple weeks to respond to Microsoft, with a simple and to the point 30 second commercial. Microsoft took 3 years to respond to Apples commercials, with a lot more money and commercials that at first were very long and completely lacking focus or direction that were a failure, and now commercials that have a point but nothing really all that clever. Its funny how all these nerds complain Apple is using dirty tactics, but these people obviously don't know history and the things Microsoft did to get in their position today. Apple isn't doing anything wrong, they are outsmarting their competition and pointing out their flaws, they aren't lying at all in any of their commercials. I don't understand how the nerds can feel like Apple is bullying MICROSOFT, that is just too funny.
It's like Obama vs. McCain. Attack ad after attack ad. What happened to just showing your strengths, and then letting the media call out your lies. Nothing works like it is supposed to. Mainly because everyone is corrupt and people are too lazy to think for themselves.
M$ did show there strengths with these ads. They threw loads of money at it and hoped for the best, thats always been there way, and it doesnt seem to be working anymore......
the media hasn't called out anyone on their lies in the last 50 years, they are paid whores.
"Further, Vista is in danger of being skipped over by a large proportion of consumers because the next iteration of Windows, dubbed Windows 7, is due for general release late next year." This in part is true. I had Vista on my laptop when I got it, and it blew up my antivirus and some drivers. Instead, I installed XP on it and it's worked well ever since. I prefer the freedoms afforded by the PC platform. I control what software goes into it and the hardware. I'm not locked into an Apple platform. I'm happy to skip Vista on my very Vista capable PC and I'll wait for Windows 7. MS needs to address many issues from locking out third party hardware manufacturers to the key code of the OS to the general incompatibilities. This is the main reason that I and a great number of PC users stick to XP. It's the OS that is most compatible with games and various software. I'll never pay money for an iMac because I don't want to pay top dollar to be locked down in proprietary hardware and software. For some people that works, but not for me. I prefer the freedom that a PC offers.
I've had no problems with Vista and could never get with a Mac because it's so darn alien. I use a lot of media-editing programs and everyone keeps recomending Macs, but I just feel I always have more opyions using Windows. These ads are funny, but I'd rather they focussed on the products instead.
they have windows for apple now. you're not locked into a proprietary system since apple went power pc with ibm. (i think that's the case) Honestly, M$ would be better to distance themselves from PC, and push that they are a software company, and they have the best OS, for PC, or mac. They're losing the argument, so they need to change the discussion
By proprietary system, I was talking about hardware. If I want to change out something in my computer, I want the freedom to be able to do that. Be it video card, add a PCI card of some sort, change my sound card, etc. I want the freedom to be able to open up my case and do whatever it is I feel like doing.
Actually Microsoft issued the latest salvo in an attempt to continue to define Vista as a broken, bug-ridden operating system just by selling it.
Lol. Bubbles up.
Come on, Vista isn't that broken. I mean it's buggy and it's a RAM hog but other than that, it runs fantastically. Just turn off most of the actual optional glam stuff and it runs like a dream. Everyone hates Vista cause apparently it's cool to hate Vista, Microsoft, Microsoft related products and it's cool to praise all of Microsoft's opponents.
Like usual apple owning their b*tch ass!!!
Round ????? FIGHT :)
Vista does suck a fat one. But so does everything Mac. Sticking with XP is no problem. Overpaying for inferior hardware is.
Inferior? Not everybody is a PC nerd who needs to have a Core 2 Extreme running a ridiculous amount of processes. You know good design, an unmatched user experience, and simplicity does have worth, and its apparent by how much Apple has been growing lately. The majority of consumers aren't spec whores.
A majority of users are price whores. Thus they will buy a PC for $500 rather than the Apple equivalent that is $1500. That is unless they want to overpay so people think they are cool b/c of the Apple on the back of their computer. Yeah, Apple has grown, but it still doesn't even hold a candle to the PC user base.
The two new Apple ads are some of the funniest yet when by all rights they should be worn out, and we should be sick of them. But they are still funny! Those ads will be remembered and copied for years to come.
I think they've decieved us as many times as MSFT with Vista.and its sad,many idiots think Apple invented Mp3 players because of the ipod.
Why does it always have to be about "inventing" or who did it first? They invented the market, they made them successful, and they created the industry standard, which is much harder to do. Do you remember how MP3 players were before the iPod? They were a joke. Thats what Apple does, they enter a market and do it right, better than anything else in the market, and then create the standards for the competition.
Windows 7 will be flawless
Dream on. Microsoft just isn't a good OS Developer anymore.
were they ever a GOOD OS developer?? windows 3.1 was a buggy piece of crap, 95 was legendary for its crashes and it took them like 5 years and TWO releases to get windows 98 running halfway decent. Compare that to the rock solid performance of Apple or even Linux and you have to ask WERE THEY EVER A GOOD OS DEVELOPER?
Microsoft has to be the most pathetic company out there, only surpased by their fanboys, the MicroSlaves.
Like sony fanboys Sonysluts
When is war not ugly? Back in Nam...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH!!!
@ReTarDedFisHy There are plenty good things about MAC and Linux and unlike Windows they seem to constantly improve with innovative and handy features, not to mention the openess of linux which allows you to make it work pretty much in the way you want it to work. Microsoft however is constantly underwhelming which is a bit odd when you think its a multimilion company whith more than enough money to smash the competitors. I am pretty much fed up with windows, and pretty much want Apple to increase their share on OS market. I am not apple fanboy, I dont own any of their products, but I just want some company to come and but some sense to microsoft and their strategy with windows. Maybe when Windows would only own 50% of the OS market the developers would actualy support other platfroms and ppl would get more choises on what kind of operating system they want to use. Nowdays the other OS:ses may be superrior in many ways to windows, but ppl dont even want to try them because not many 3rd party software/hardware devs support em. Without game/software/hardware support, windows would be just as or more "horrible" OS than Os x or Linux. Theres no single good monopoly, just look at the consoles how much Sony and Microsoft are constantly improving their services with neat features and Nice exclusives plus price drops. I dream of the day when Operating systems will have the same kind of competition.
I have UnBuntu and XP dual booted on my Laptop. And I still prefer XP over Tiger(or whatever the hell it's called now) and Linux. I can't understand why people b***h and moan over Windows. Vista isn't as terrible as people make it seem, though it's not better than XP. All it tkaes is a little time and routine maintenance and it runs fine. Why the complaints?
"I have UnBuntu and XP dual booted on my Laptop. And I still prefer XP over Tiger(or whatever the hell it's called now) and Linux. I can't understand why people b***h and moan over Windows. Vista isn't as terrible as people make it seem, though it's not better than XP. All it tkaes is a little time and routine maintenance and it runs fine. Why the complaints?" The main problem with Vista is that it doesnt run with todays standards. People want operating system that is light, fast, looks good, customizeable and safe. But comparing to linux and Mac or even XP. Vista is a joke in these categories. New start bar? - I prefered the old one without a search bar stolen from macs. Gadgets? - Desklets you mean? Aero look? - http://bp1.blogger.com/_4CW... (No thats not vista hes running) better desktop effects? - http://www.whylinuxisbetter... (I beg to differ) Now I am in odd position where my older PC seems better than my newer one (around 7 years old AMD athlon 1600mhz 700mb ram with Gforce 440 mx.) Has Ubuntu installed, and the computer works faster, looks better, and doesnt even need a damn virus protection because of the way the OS has been build. Microsoft should stop improving around the old "windows" core and recreate the damn thing to more modern and better. They have the money, they have the time so wth is the problem? I am no way saying that ppl should start using linux or mac, just saying that theres many things microsoft should improve, preferably in near future. XP was great OS but there are things with Vista that where things have gone horibly wrong.
They can just as easily build off of XP since that's a great OS now, after the patches.
I wouldnt mind a broader choice of OS if there was some sort of standard for compatibility, last thing I want is to have a system with 3 OS boots because the software I need to run wont work on the same OS. And about linux not needing antivirus, I believe they key factor in that is whos going to waste their time finding exploits to piss off such a small demographic.
I was shocked to see Apple straight up diss Vista and blatanly call out Microsoft a couple of years ago. Vista is a bug-riddled OS, but I still find it alo more appealing than any other. My brother thinks otherwise. I honestly don't know anybody that has a Mac though.
but the 64 version has been running really really smooth i've had all kind of problems with vista 32 bit switched to 64 and everything is working like it should with same hardware.
actually ...thats hard to believe. That is if you are using 32-bit software on a 64-bit operating system. 32-bit running in 64-bit mode seems to be inefficient. At least thats what i have read in some articles. but if you say so i guess....
almost 99% of what is sold now and have been for the past 2 years is 64 bit hardware which can operate 32 software.
I didn't say it couldn't. I said 32-bit software running in a 64-bit operating system works inefficient. At least thats what i learned some time ago, things could have change though.
destroy them all.
All these Apple adds are totally pointless since Apple PCs totally sucks and they will never be able to take hold of the computing industry. Never. Unlike their overpriced phones and media players, the PC is a market that's totally kicking their ass and has been for years.
Are you kidding? You do realize that Mac sales have been surging like crazy for a couple of years now right? Most computer manufacture's have been showing stagnant growth while Apple just posted a 30% increse in sales for Q3 year-over-year. 10% of all PC's sold in NA last quarter were Macs - don't think Microsoft hasn't noticed/doesn't. Like it or not, the Mac vs. PC ad campaign has been very successful - that's why it's still running.
Apple can go suck a railroad spike. Those commercials were funny but I like MS's "i'm a PC and i've been stereotyped commercial". It accurately paints most(not all) Apple users as smug and stuck up.
^^^ Hater ^^^
I think Vista did a pretty good job doing that itself.
GO APPLE! xD Take em' down!
I really hope Google would make a OS, they seem to have pretty interesting way of doing money while ppl can still enjoy light and free services. Chrome is badass browser and its only a beta. This way this could turn in to 3 way war, which again would feed the competition!
Didn't they make one for the mobile platform? I thought it was distributed as part of android?
Android is a mobile OS. I won't be surprised if Google does release an OS in the next few years.
Google can make another flavor of Linux to compete with MS OS. Distribute it for free without all the bloated codes. Linus is not as mainstream as MS OS but it is a stable OS and it is free.
Nerd Fight !!!! :)
"Nerd Fight !!!! :) " FUNNY! Anyway.. this is just ANOTHER problem for MS, because it means MORE money has to be funneled into advertisement that has sole purpose to fight Apple. This is both interesting and ugly as it shows the dark side of human competition and business itself.
Using Windows Vista 64bit and I like it alot, much better than XP for me at least and most of the drivers work now just remember to update your damn drivers lol.
After switching to my mac, I sold my PC, never got used. The mac OS is so much more streamlined and care free. Its a shame about the Apple ads- they should focus on their own strengths, not Microsoft's problems- everyone knows them already.
"Its a shame about the Apple ads- they should focus on their own strengths, not Microsoft's problems- everyone knows them already." If the Xbox 360 is any indication, Microsoft's customers will buy whatever Microsoft tells them to buy despite obvious flaws. I think Apple made the right choice by pointing out Window's (and Microsoft's) glaring issues.
Apple should run for president, they really have the whole dishonest slandering thing down. Apples spends insane amounts of money on marketing and in my opinion apple doesn't really have any room to slam MS on this one. MS doesn’t have anywhere near the amount of TV or print ads that apple does and apple also has boutique stores in high profile locations. Apple has 5% of the home computing market share and yet 80% of computer ads on TV are for apple. The end users end up paying for all those slick ads, packaging and stores. MS should have left apples ads alone. A business focused company trying to fight a design focused company on there home field isn’t wise. The sinfeld ad was as bad as vista LOL.
They have 15% of the market, and are experiencing incredible growth. Why? They only put out high-quality products, and consumers demand that quality.
What I really hate about Apple is how they have to put someone down to make themselves look good! Dont get me wrong I dont hate apple as I have a Ipod Touch but I dont know why Apple keep putting down PCs! If they are so great why dont they just play on their strengths instead of playing on someone elses weaknesses! Why dont Apple open their software up and allow it to run on ANY computer??? Then im sure they would have a much stronger position in the market.
I find it to be the wrong image apple is producing. Downplaying your competition only makes you look as equally bad. I dont see those ads as making me want to get a mac. I see it as mac is insulting the pc consumers as if to say they are to stupid to be using a mac because they use windows. Yeah that is a sure fire way to win people over. They should be talking about the benefits of a mac not so much about the downfalls of windows. It is like politics. If you work hard to make your competition look bad then you are doing something wrong. Insults and slander are not a way to win over the masses.
Windows dominates 85% of the PC market, and almost every Windows user has some gripe with that OS, especially Vista users. Apple isn’t deceiving PC users, so much as pushing their buttons. These are valid complaints that have been voiced for the past decade, and Apple is honestly showing us that if we use Macs and/or Mac OSX, we will never have to experience those problems ever again. If you have the right specs, you don’t even need to buy a Mac computer to have a ‘Mac’. Simply install Mac OSX and you’re good to go.
"talking about their benefits" is how the 'mac' ad campaign started way back when, and most of their ads do tout there so called benefits. They aren't saying people are too stupid for macs either. It is just competition. But it is hard to resist using the Vista's so-called problems (whether they exist or not) in their ads since it has been a big deal in the media anyway.
My 4 year old PC runs XP just fine thx. :)