After Witcher 3, Bethesda Needs to Up Its Game With Elder Scrolls VI

Twinfinite writes "Where CD Projekt Red’s The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt was like a generational leap in the quality of open-world RPGs, Skyrim’s ancient DNA courses so blatantly through the veins of Fallout 4 that it feels woefully long in the tooth by comparison. The design, aesthetic, and general composition really are shockingly similar. It seems obvious to me that Fallout 4 was developed in a bit of a vacuum, carved out of an archaic foundation that ensured it would never feel contemporary. Moving forward, though, that simply won’t do."

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kalkano31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

What? While I did like The Witcher 3...

Skyrim >>>>>>> >>>>>> Witcher 3.

basilboxer31d ago

Skyrim was nice an open and arguably had more role-playing options, but there's no way it's a better overall package, imo.

-T9X-69-31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Well to be fair, this comparison is pointless. They're 4 years apart. A more far comparison would be Fallout 4. It came out a year and a half after Witcher 3, ran on a new build of the same engine used to make Skyrim and launched on current platforms. What we got was an overall better video game with Fallout 4, but the narrative took a backseat. I think it's safe to say nothing was in the back seat for Witcher 3. Granted Bethesda were trying something new with the whole voice protagonist thing. I think they heard the feedback loud and clear and won't be too experimental with key elements of a main line title next time. Which of course would be ESVI. Plus their new IP Starfield will allow them to be as creative as they possibly can. Which I think could potentially bring life to features for ESVI if the community really likes whatever they do with Starfield.

GottaBjimmyb31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I agree skyrim was more enjoyable and more in depth (customization and player skill wise) IMO.

Plus it is hard to compare a game where every item in a world has it's own physics to a game with mostly static items and environments. When the witcher allows you to interact move and use almost every object in the game, then we can compare, I personally think Skyrim is equally as technically impressive given all of the variables and points of failure that is inherent with such a large number of individual objects with individual weights, physics and usability and that it was made on last gen consoles.

Also, some of the quirkiness and glitches are kind of endearing and make the game more enjoyable for me, some also piss me off too, not trying to claim the glitches are a positive, just that some of the glitches add character to the game.

All that said, a more polished sequel would be great and frankly, obviously the sequel will be, technology has come a LONG way since skyrim and will be even further along when the sequel actually comes out.

inveni031d ago

I agree that Bethesda needs to ramp it up. But they won't. They never do. They're the Call of Duty devs of RPGs.

UnHoly_One31d ago

Yes, agreed.

The last thing I want is to see Elder Scrolls trying to be like a game that it is already far superior to.

Witcher had pretty graphics, but that's it. It isn't close to the quality of even the worst Bethesda RPG.

arkard31d ago

Lol what? Skyrim is horrible compared to the Witcher! The only thing better is the openness of Skyrim


Isn't close? You didn't play TW3 then, im a huge TES fanboy and TW3 by itself topped Morowind, Oblivion and Skyrim for me. The ONLY two things I like about TES is the Lore is more appealing but not by much and the fact that it has FP which is a big deal for me.

The next ES game needs to have a better engine and decent Animations!

smolinsk31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

your right, far more to do in Skyrim, far more secrets, caves, interesting interior then in The witcher 3, The Witcher had good Side missions, but the world felt emty and boring, much more fun world in Skyrim. much more fun roleplaying and character building in Skyrim.

UnHoly_One29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I played Witcher 3. Check my gamertag.

The combat is absolutely terrible, and the skill tree gives you basically zero ability to customize your character and play style.

Any RPG where everyone's character ends up exactly the same is a CRAP RPG.

Sorry, I just don't get the love for Witcher. It's a 5/10 game for me that I wouldn't recommend to anyone.

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Both series while having some similarities, they are vastly different. One is more narrative driven and focused, the other is more open and meant to be customized by the player. In The Witcher you MUST play as Geralt and inhabit all of the things that make him Gearlt. In Skyrim, you can play as anyone, invent virtually any back story you can imagine. Add in mods and the sky is the limit.

I wouldn't want The Elder Scrolls VI to adopt the mechanics of The Witcher series, losing all the things that make them infinitely replayable. You can play as Geralt in The Elder Scrolls, but you could never play as anyone in the Witcher games.

abovetheclouds31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I don't usually agree with your but you're right. There's a reason why top developers, journalists and fans alike think Skyrim is the quentessential RPG experience.

Dark-soul31d ago

totaly agree, witcher one of the worst rpg i played in my life in 30 years

Helios8631d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Skyrim = Miles wide and an inch deep.

Witcher 3 offered a great narrative at every turn where quests were interesting and well written, characters where interesting and well written. The world was believable, the people where belivable. And the combat while not great, at least TRIED to be and ended up being kinda fun.

Skyrim is a shallow piece of crap and a husk of what it could've been, a progressive decline over it's predecessors. With boring and generic stories, boring and generic characters and a sluggish and boring click to win combat system with zero depth.

The only thing Skyrim does good is the environment and the ambient music.

Where the hell did people standards go?

samoilaaa31d ago

skyrim had a dead world , it didnt felt alive at all , the cities were small with few NPC , they need to fix this

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FTLmaster31d ago

I love Skyrim and all but I’d actually be down for an Oblivion remaster one day. And not exactly a popular opinion, but I think Skyrim > The Witcher 3. *runs*

TyrellCorp31d ago

Each franchise has its strengths, its just a matter of taste. The Witcher 3 was a generational leap in visuals and polish, I mean Novigrad blew my mind at the time. TW3 also had a vastly superior narrative and character development. But a lot of that comes from being able to develop a world around a dedicated character in Geralt.

On the other hand TES wins out in depth of gameplay and roleplaying options allowing the player to build their character however they see fit. And to my mind TES games always impart an unparalleled sense of freedom. TES is probably my favorite franchise but The Witcher 3 is still my game of the generation save maybe GoW.

Michiel198931d ago

While its obvious to compare the 2 games because they are both open world rpgs, in my opinion people make a mistake comparing the two. The games are nothing alike, ES gives you all the freedom to do in the world what you want while Witcher 3 is a handcrafted rpg that leads you along the path created by the developers (ES also does this in a way but its not as prominent).

inveni031d ago

I don't think it's a mistake to say that Bethesda needs to up their game. They truly do. They don't need to copy The Witcher, but they can look at the leaps and bounds made with The Witcher 3 and Horizon: Zero Dawn and say, "Oh, wow, we could do a lot of visually cool new things with our winning formula." Instead they just deliver bug fests.

Relientk7731d ago

I hope they do up their game. I want Elder Scrolls 6 to be awesome. To me Witcher 3 is better than Skyrim.


I can't wait for TES:6 since after TW3, they will up their game even more!

ArchangelMike31d ago

Bethesda definitely need a new next gen engine. And I agree that they need to take a page out of The Witcher 3 and up their all round production values.

Eldyraen31d ago

Main story and side quests need to be handled better than their old, and as far as F4 still is, system of minimal cutscenes and/or real time animations. There are parts that are pretty interesting sure, but they are still primarily dialogue (text+voice) based storytelling focused in a time when visual storytelling has been more of the norm for a long time now.

Not hating on it as I love my jrpgs for example which are still 90% text based anyways, but Western RPG wise, Bethesda is subpar in story department these days. Top notch for make your own adventures though which is why I love their games still. Keep that and just add modern animated storytelling design as well in more areas.

Michiel198931d ago

I disagree, I love ES for its minimalistic storytelling and making the world the main character in their games.I do think they could improve the storytelling a lot, but they dont need to make it Witcher style. Elder Scrolls leaves a lot to the imagination while Witcher doesnt. The reason I love reading is that it gives my imagination a freepass to do whatever it wants, Witcher doesnt give me that (the books are another story). I hope ES keeps their style but ups the quality of it.

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