Hidetaka Suehiro, the creator of ggames like Deadly Premonition and D4, recently shared his opinion of Detroit: Become Human on Twitter....and it wasn't positive.
Who cares, his loss.
i fully agree with Hidetaka ....David Cage is known for his lame"NOt games" games...trying to simplify to child level the mechanics/controls and make an interactive movie is NOT a game (too bad that Sony gives him so much attention and buys his garbages as exclusives) ...Hidetaka from the other as classical Japanese dev who areknown for perfect and generally polished mehanics in real games, hates the thing as i do
Deadly Premonition was very far from perfect or polished...loved the game but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
That’s fine that you agree with him. But millions of other gamers disagree with you both. The games Quantic Dream aren’t for everyone. However, they’re still “Games” To think they’re anything less, because they might not allow you the same level of control over playing as say Nathan Drake from Uncharted 4 (which I love) is just silly. While their are quick time events for fights & many other things, you still move your character around with the joystick as you do with all other games. Interactive games are more limiting, in terms of typical gameplay mechanics, but you still hit buttons to perform actions at times, here and there. I’m thankful Sony supports David Cage/Quantic Dream. Not everyone wants to play shooters, racing games, sports games etc... Sony allows so much variety with their library of games. No reason why these games, that are interactive shouldn’t be included. We as gamers all have different tastes in games, and as long as we can respectfully agree to disagree without tearing into each other with vulgar/disgusting hate, it’s all good.
I think he was being ironic because he admitted he played poorly. Funny thing is people like you take it seriously to express personal hate about one man (DCage)
@ above i dont like Cage because games are bought with money ...duh...and i dont have money to buy crap things like his so called games or a console (PS4 ) that hypothetically supports a lot of these "NO games" (ok PS4 is not such a console but i said hypothetically).. .i would prefer Sony instead of announcing Detroit to have announced an exlusive 3RD party from japan with no big names in it and less production budget.....You can answer me that " you dont have to buy these QTE wannabe games , that s why there are reviews and media, is not 90 s anymore " but i comment to what would be a better gaming strategy for a company that i support (Sony) ....i like what Nintnedo does (with games only) ..there is no such lame things as QTE games on Switch , almost every single game on it has true gameplay with challenge and can spend some fun time , instead of "press-a-button-now-you retard to-see-my idiotic cg movie" .......
I think Quantic Dreams Games, particularly the ones with multiple endings and outcomes, are more games than say, Dragon’s Lair or Space Ace.
There's no way anyone can call Deadly Preminition more polished than Detroit: Become Human. I love both games but god the hate for David Cage's games are insane. Calling his games garbage or unpolished is a flat out lie.
Because they still sell decently well.
Dude... you do realize Swery made a similar "not game" game (so stupid people can't realize a genre of game such as interactive stories, but whatevs) called D4, right? Also, for the record Detroit: Become Human is a game, i don't know what you're smoking but that's a fact!
There's a few problems with your opinion Naruga, DBH is incredibly polished, the acting is top notch, and the story was compelling and engaging. DBH isn't supposed to be a typical game, it was designed to be interactive. If you don't those types of games, that's your choice. I bet you haven't even played it have you?
His loss indeed.
It's not mandatory that we all like the same games btw
Some people like these games and some dont. Apparently, swery does not. But, to be fair, if he had a good playthrough, would his opinion be changed?
Hmmm, I wonder that too about swery. I have the unfortunate luck of bringing upon death to the characters in QD’s games. Heavy Rain & Detroit were both emotional rollercoasters for me, and I had horrible endings on my first go with both games (and my 2nd playthrough of Detroit wasn’t any better, in terms of the end result) but I wouldn’t change that for anything. The journey of telling their stories were so much fun & engaging.
I wonder that too. I remember seeing a negative review from a no-name website that complained the story was short...even though he killed Kara off early so he missed out on a third of the story! So many people just seemed unhappy with how their game went so they blame it on Quantic Dream. Hell there are even people in that Twitter thread complaining that David Cage doesn't create happy endings, even though Detroit has multiple happy endings to choose from.
Geeze, not everything needs a happy ending. Or on another play through, try radically changing your decisions made previously. Sometimes it is good to change sh*t up.
Fist4achin: Exactly! I got a pretty sad ending on my first playthrough (Kara and Alice were the only survivors iirc), and I still loved every minute of it. Those scenes where you know one wrong move can end in the death of a character were great BECAUSE of how final your decisions are. Too many people seem to be complaining that the game is 'flawed' because it's too easy to make a 'mistake' that pisses off the wrong person or gets you killed. But I liked it because it's realistic. If you had a gun to your head and you had to talk down the person holding the gun, you're not immediately going to know what to say to make the 'right' choice. I've seen people complaining that it's too easy to piss Hank off even if you're always nice to him. But that's the point! A cynical person like Hank doesn't want to be around polite, chipper people all the time. That would piss anyone off, let alone a gruff and depressed alcoholic.
He stated that he hates multi story QTE games. So why does he play the game?....... This game is indeed not for the button mash hungry crowd or the gamecontroller talent loving crowd. You don't need to develop certain gamecontroller skills during the game. And the puzzle level is very low. This is a game for the GPU graphics ,music and story loving crowd. The game drives on letting you see what game graphics the console is capable of producing but also has an impeccable story, music, sound and character development core. As for QTE , the scenes are NOT QTE. QTE is pre rendered or captured video. All the scenes are mostly generated/calculated live. Yes this game feels like a great not anime movie remastered to run on a gameconsole as a game on graphics and interactivity level. So like a real life movie video was replaced/remastered with gameconsole GPU rendered graphics and interactivity added through the gamecontroller. Yes a movie is cheaper, but also shorter. 90 to 120 minutes as for this games genarally serves you 600 enjoying hours, so expensive it certainly is not. The game is worth each penny. I loved the game and I think its good that SONY invests in these kind of games. Not only to sell the console power capabilities, but also to deliver a broad base concerning the type of games.
Do he want a cookie now?
Never heard of the guy or his games just watched the trailer for both games and it's got that typical ugly animations that some Japanese games have. Especially d4 he must be bad at making games.
And? For example, i didn't like Deadly Premonition, one of the most flawed and PS2-like graphics games i had on PS3. So, if from one side it's ok that the guy says he doesn't like the game (all perfectly normal), is there the need of reporting it as a news thing? Just to feed the Xbone fanboys, like their comments under that tweet (and here too, as usual). But maybe he didn't like it because: "My QTE skill was not good to eojoying story" He's not good at QTEing in a game full of QTE?
Well, he did say he played poorly. Maybe he got himself into a situation when his favorite character is dead, so no reason for him to continue. He did enjoy graphics, characters and theme of the story. So i think, it was positive. Also, it's fine to not like some things (even a popular ones). For instance, i love gameplay in MGS V, while a buddy of mine hate it, because his stealth is always turning into blood bath rocket launcher fight.
He liked good writing. You don't get that in a QD game.
I really wanted to enjoy Heavy Rain, it seemed interesting. Grabbed for free on PSN, but honestly the controls and pacing aren't really for me. Maybe I will finish it at some point, but it was kindof a turn off. I was also excited for Detroit:Become Human, but if its very similar to Heavy Rain's overall clumsiness with controls (imo), I may pass as well.
Id still recxommend giving Detroit a go. It's been eight years since Heavy Rain came out and the game hasn't aged well since then. Detroit is much more polished and modern.
Hey Swery, then why don't you finish D4 and show us what's what?
Has a right to his opinion but i loved it, one of my favorite games this gen
Let him live. He doesn't hate David Cage's games. He wants a direct story, without the choices. Swery is a extremely huge Twin Peaks fan.
I dunno....one of Detroit's biggest strengths is that is DOES have multiple paths and endings. If it was a linear game or movie, it wouldn't have nearly as much charm. Especially with Connor's story - what makes his plot so incredible is how you basically mould him into the person you want him to be.
I haven't played it and bot knovking either developer. It's just seeing a perspective from both of them pulling off something interesting and why they make there games the way they do. Sweet expressly said he likes the game a ton.
I loved DP for it was and what it knew it was but it was far from polished but that was part of its charm. As it is millions did love it, myself included and I'm so glad with Sony I get games like Uncharted, TLOU, Shadow of the Colossus, The Last Guardian, HZD, GOW, Spider-Man, Death Stranding, Ghosts of Tsushima and Says Gone and also games like Detroit, Unravel, LBP, Dreams and Concrete Genie. As for his opinion and it's fine he's entitled to it but what have you done for me lately?
i dont think anyome cares haha.
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