Germany is cracking down on marketing gimmicks by changing the rules surrounding release dates. From now on, items up for pre-order need a release date or it's against the law.
Can't companies just set random dates and push keep delaying them?
LOL ... What about kickstarter?
Not sure, maybe they wont persue kickstarter, or as is typical with these kind of broad laws, kickstarter will have to restrict its fundraising in Germany.
What about Nintendo who likes to do that, "said-game is released... now!"
But Kickstarter is not a pre-order. You're not actually buying something, you're investing in the project and as a reward you will receive the finished product when it's done...
Which reminds me, I think that Muv-Luv physicals got sent out from Kickstarter recently, just saying.
This was my first thought too. Also, with it being against the law, how would this be monitored and enforced? Seems like a hard thing to do but maybe not.
How would it be difficult? When taking preorder money in Germany, businesses now have to provide the buyers with definite release dates. If those dates come and go with no product delivery, the law has been broken.
Yes but would it be enforced? Here in America people get around the laws all the time for whatever reason
Pushing the date back after taking preorder money would constitute a breach of the law. I don't know what remedies the law provides, though. Compensation? Refunds? Fines? I should read more about it, because it is a really interesting bit of protection that I'd like to see spread worldwide. Imagine Star Citizen in this context. Cloud Imperium Games would argue that crowdfunding is not preordering. It would then be up to the lawmakers to close or at least tighten up that loophole. I can see giving crowdfunded projects some leeway, say one extra year after their announced completion date.
But crowdfunding is investing in the project, getting something in return is only a reward for helping to make the project become a reality, you're not actually buying anything. That's also the risk you take with Kickstarter, if there's nothing coming out of it you just lost your money, it was investment which contains some form of risk and you lost your money. Nothing to be done about that unless they want to completely ban that sorta thing...
Yeah. And it's easy enough to just delay a game I suppose. However, I suppose if publishers do that enough, then they'll aggravate the customers over time.
I think here in the UK we do it best, with the exception of digital preorders, retail outlets only take our money either when we go in to buy it or online they charge our cards/paypal accounts etc the day the game is to be dispatched.
This is how Amazon works too. They don't charge you until shipping or release.
To my knowledge, in the US, of the major companies, only GameStop charges you a fee of $5 for a game preorder. $25 for collector's editions that are over a certain amount. One is free to pay the full amount if they want. They're also free to not pre-order, or cancel their pre-order at any time. I really don't see why there needs to be a law to prevent pre-orders. It's not like the publishers get that money until they actually ship the game, at which time, the retailers will pay for the game.
That kinda makes sense. Who preorders a game without a release date?
If I have credit somewhere with an expiration date I like having pre-orders available even if they don't know know the official date.
There was that guy that preordered Duke Nukem Forever in 97
This law is just going to result in them changing from calling it a pre-order to calling it a reservation and then, once it's confirmed, having you come back to 'confirm' your reservation to change it to a pre-order.
this should be a world-wide rule. preorder only with a release date set
I never pre-order until like a couple of weeks before release at best anyway.
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