One of the most popular versions of the title is available on Nintendo Switch and it just got even better. The Bedrock version of Minecraft just released for Nintendo Switch, both digitally on the Nintendo eShop and as a physical release.
And here's why Sony not doing it yet lol.
People are disagreeing with you, but you have a point. Why would Sony want people to get any kind of investment through a competing ecosystem. I don't think it's their biggest reason for not doing cross play, but obviously, they probably wouldn't be too keen on such a thing.
Other games devs that want crossplay wouldn't have achievements. Th. Answer has already been revealed as a monetary decision
@gamer Yes its always about mon edy, for both. Nothing else.
I think at first everybody was in agreement and then MS dropped a money figure. Sony probably felt that it was unreasonable because they have the bigger install base. Nintendo needed this to happen so they jumped right in. That’s just my opinion I could be wrong!
@gamer True, but at the same time, allowing cross play opens up these kinds of doors. If the two companies talked about it as some point, then they both had their own needs for it to go forward. I doubt either of them just outright denied the other to be a dick about it. But I can easily see that the things one company asked for not being acceptable to the other, and as it stands, we don't know what was asked for, by who, or who couldn't agree with such demands. For all we know, Sony had some demand that MS couldn't accept. But Eonjay is right. Money will have a lot to do with it....although I doubt any exchange of money would need to take place. But on the back end, Sony, or even MS, may have felt the potential loss to their own brand didn't outweigh the benefits to their consumer. @Sharky I couldn't say with Nintendo. I have this feeling they don't really know where they want to go with their online. I don't see cross play with Switch really benefiting or hurting their system, because I don't really think Nintendo's main focus is online gaming to such a high degree to begin with. Nintendo is just starting up their online service, and I feel it's going to go through some growing pains. I hope that what they're doing works out for them, and if anything, maybe between them and MS, they'll show that cross play isn't going to be an issue no matter how it plays out.
Right does Fortnite have it NOPE Paldains have it NOPE Rocket League have it Nope any other cross-play Switch games have it NOPE it's only Minecraft. WHY because it's a MICROSOFT IP Don't make a statement without understanding the situation
This doesn't make any sense. Sony will not promote a competitor's paid ecosystem on it's own. Obviously. There is no situation beyond the desire to promote their on service. This is why PS4 crossplays with PC and mobile because they aren't direct competitors. There is nothing to this except for that.
@dj, and thats the point. The last thing sony wants is anything to do with ms and xbox thank god.
This is the only game that does this. And that's because it's published by Microsoft and uses Xbox Live as its online platform. None of the other cross play games do this.
Doesn't use Xbox live on the ps4. They could have chose to not force this if they really wanted the crossplay they claim to want. What they actually want is bloated fake numbers
The overwhelming disagrees to people providing remarks that are more than just opinion but are actually true is just sad. I'm sorry I mean pathetic. It would not be a good idea for Sony to do this same thing.
Blunder Twins power activate! Phil and Reggie! Ew!
Don’t know why you’re getting downvotes. It’s the truth. Just more fabricated outrage.
Nintendo doesn't mind the online help I'm sure. Also sure ps4 base would keep their trophy system.
Wow...nice job MS. Invading the Switch now, are we?
It’s call cooperation? Not that Sony knows anything about it though.
It is called the weakest systems trying to survive. Not that Sony knows anything about it.
Are you saying that the Switch and the X1 are dying?
Sony is under no obligation to host the competitors ecosystem on it's own paid service. At all. They don't owe you anything. You are not entitled to PSN.
King_Lothric do you remember a console called the PlayStation Vita? Oooo I guess that's not counted because it sold poor and had no support at all from Sony? Come on Sony have messed up a few times some times it hurts them others it dose not. VR was the next big thing and we are still waiting with less and less games adapting vr. Move ps eye also devices that have slid back into the shadows. All 3 have made mistakes this gen and all 3 are trying to put them right. Cross play though is one Sony need to out right. Why should everyone not be able to play each other no matter the console if you own the same game for me this is kind of where Sony have a 1up and one down on Microsoft as if they open it up to work with everyone else they have the exclusives locked up at the moment so more reason for people to cross play on a PS4 over the other two but psn is still not as good as live and online play is better on the xbox. That makes it an interesting battle as for the switch well Nintendo have a lot of catching up to do online side but Nintendo gamers do like Nintendo games and if games like fortnight, Minecraft and more are cross play on it the better for Nintendo. For me ide just love to be able to play my ps or switch friends from my Xbox or when our and about from my switch and pickup from where I left off to. Times have moved on it should not be a closed system anymore for gaming no matter th IP or console.
@kun, its called common sense fgs. The last thing sony needs is any form of 'cooperation' with ms and xbox.
@dragonscale Yeah and Sony can keep being all high and mighty as much as they want. Pretty soon they will be the odd man out and the only one who can’t play nice with others.
Nope because it not on Switch. That all on Xbox One. Playing it on Switch use XBL sends everything to Xbox One. No Invasion. It's Microsoft IP it should work that way.
“Invading the switch now, are we?” Yeah, I’m sure this was a shady move that Nintendo had no hand in, or knowledge of, before it actually happened. It’s really a clever ruse so MS can have more people getting achievements. Curse them! Next thing you know, Switch players will be forced to by an Xbox in order to verify Minecraft on their Switch! Diabolical! /s
I guarantee Microsoft will add these numbers into their xbox live engagement statistics! 100 million creepers exploded through xbox live on switch and xbox one!
Stay tune for NPD reports next month
invading..hahahahahahaha enjoy your CLOSED ecosystem then. Cooperation is now a bad thing? its so amazing that when they "accidentally" allowed cross play on another game there was no outrage from Sony fans.
Hate to break it to you, but XBL is a closed ecosystem. MS wants nothing more than to make their ecosystem as closed as possible. This achievement thing just brings them more users, which is what they want. It works out for the gamer, but it's not like they're doing it because they're amazingly altruistic. Personally, I'd rather that Nintendo just make their own achievement system. That's something they are way behind on, and there is no reason not to have it. I'd imagine more people would care about that than they'd care about playing minecraft with Xbox players. But to date, we haven't seen a lot of Switch players caring about achievements either....so take that for what it's worth.
They own Minecraft, why not
Wow! First the minecraft play together video, then twitter and now this. What's next?
Drake plays crossplay Minecraft with Ninja on Switch.
I don't want any intrusive Xbox stuff on my Playstation ecosystem. I understand that when you are surviving in the market you need to do things you may not like to survive. Sony is not on this position so it doesn't need to help the competition to survive.
Achievements and gamerscore are no more intrusive than trophies and levels on PS. It's the same system, just with different branding. Not liking the idea of having Xbox stuff is fine, I do personally think it's a little weird, but I wouldn't say it's intrusive.
It exposes your userbase to the competition. It shows what the true plan is
No thanks pork. Don't want anything xbox related on my PlayStation account fgs.
@Kingthrash *achievement pops on PlayStation version of Minecraft, notifies Microsoft headquarters* “Mr Spencer, we did it! We finally got achievements to come up on PS games!” “Great work! Now remind me again... what does this actually get us?” “... I’ll have to double check our ‘clever ruse’ manual and get back to you, because I really don’t know” Tell me. What is their ‘true plan’?
@Dragonscale Did you read all of my comment? I agree it's weird, I don't want it either. I just don't think it's "intrusive". It works the same way as PS trophies do.
@aconnellan What does it get MS? It gets them direct access to Nintendo's user base. They now have a email address of a Nintendo user. MS can, and likely will, send out marketing directly to those people, circumventing every compliance standard in place in how 3rd party publishers are allowed to contact said systems user base. I'm almost positive this is why Sony wouldn't allow it on PSN, despite not disallowing 3rd party accounts. On top of that, it gets them yet another MAU. Something that's very important to MS, because that's what they're using to report to investors on their future potential, and current standings. That means that the bigger the numbers go, the more their stocks are worth. Hence, more money to work with. Beyond that, it gets people invested in their ecosystem in some way. That's good for MS, not so good for Nintendo if people decide to move over to Xbox for some reason. This whole thing seems like it's much more beneficial for MS than it is Nintendo. I'm not really sure what Nintendo is getting out of it, and seems like a lot to risk just to have one game with cross play to have some good PR and a way to promote their own online service.
The competition are surviving just fine. Every sony fan acts like they got 80 million users over night. It's taken years for them to get to that number and if switch came out decades ago at the same time it would have the same user base or more by now. Sony fanboys like to selectively forget this fact though
It took Sony a little more than four years to get to this point not "decades" and the WiiU released an entire year before the PS4 and it isat 1/8th of the sales what's your excuse for that?
@XsbiDaChosenOne Wii U an d the switch are 2 different consoles. Any idiot can see that. Was the Wii U marketed as well as the switch Is? Could you play the Wii U on the go? Did the Wii U have as much 3rd party support as the switch. No. Another selective with information sony fanboy.
Wii U had better third party support than Switch. Wii U had CoD, AC, ME, Aliens, Darksiders, Far Cry, and Madden. Had these games not sold so poorly, Wii U would’ve at least continued to see installments of those. Switch only really gets third party support through Bethesda, Japanese titles, and a couple sports franchise. It’s basically missing everything else. PS4 is doing better than you think. 3DS launches 2 1/2 years before PS4, and PS4 still outsold 3DS before hitting its 4 year anniversary.
A console without exclusive tied with a mini console without 3rd party and still beaten by THE KING Losers are trying their best to gain a little momentum just make games instead of this ridiculous gimmicky features
which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.
kids, learn about the business side of your hobby. it‘s really not about the games when you are competing in the industry. it‘s about profit optimization and stuff like that. just stop whining about this crossplay thing. you just want it because you can‘t have it. no one needs it. there are more than enough people on the ps4 who are into this online gimmickery.
See this b.s. this is why Sony is staying away from Microsoft. Damn live achievement on switch. Sneaky way to get switch ppl to think about buying a Xbox one.
Xbox Live is available on every platform except Sony, including Apple devices, Amazon devices, Google devices, etc., and it's free everywhere except Xbox One. This isn't about advertising Xbox consoles. It's about advertising a service MS owns and runs just about everywhere. TBH UPlay and every other online gaming service are no different, and Sony does allow those.
Its cute that you think MS won't advertise it's own products through that Live account people have to make to access the cross play on their games. They do this now with their own customers on XBL. I get emails all the time promoting something they're doing, and I have an XBL account because I have an X1. This is why Sony wouldn't allow it, because you don't give that kind of access to your competitors. Sony has very strict rules for how 3rd party can access their customers when using 3rd party accounts. Sure, anyone can have an XBL account, but I wouldn't be surprised if this never happens again, because MS is going to abuse that kind of access.
Who would not want this? Only dildos wouldn't want something like this.
I still want to see Nintendo implement their own achievement system across their own games. Getting them in games like Mario, Pokémon, and Smash would be awesome. On a side note, this is kindof shady on MS’s part; it confirms that Switch users have to have a Live account to play with XBL users, ie MS has control of things server side. Makes sense that Sony’s not interested in allowing that within their own network. MS doesn’t have a very friendly history when they’re given access to other’s networks. What they did to Sega and SegaNet really shows why they shouldn’t be trusted in such a situation.
If you didn't need to have a XBL account to play with XBL users, there would be no way to control all the people who would love to mess with kids. It would literally be exactly what Sony was complaining about last E3 -- that children were unprotected online. Nintendo probably appreciates XBL usage when connecting to other platforms -- it's free online safety for their users, which is VERY important to Nintendo. Who do you think pays for all the chat filtering and complaint handling on XBL? Millions of lines of text per second getting filtered by servers?
"this is kindof shady on MS’s part; it confirms that Switch users have to have a Live account to play with XBL users, ie MS has control of things server side." How is it shady on Microsoft part? You need an Epic account to play Fortnite, Ubisoft account to play Ubisoft Games, EA account to play EA Games etc.. It's a Microsoft IP which means you'll need a Microsoft account to play Minecraft lol
That last part is definitely not true, at least not on PS4. I’ve played Fortnite, AC, BF, and Minecraft (Vita), and I never had to create a third party account for any of them. My PSN account was sufficient. Regardless, Sony isn’t competing with those 3 on the hardware/ online community front. If MS starting putting their titles on PS4 and Switch, then your point, and this whole thing, would make a lot more sense. This is just another way for MS to fluff up their “engagement numbers”, and brag about how they have X ammount of users, even if the vast majority of those accounts don’t get used for anything. Sony has no obligation to work with MS in such a way, as there’s basically zero benefit in it for them. It’s far more efficient for them to sell their own product and online service. That’s called business. If you want to play with PS4 users, buy a PS4. They’re getting cheaper now, and there’s really not much reason to not own one, even as a secondary gaming device.
3rd parties have strict rules on what and how they can contact PS users from those accounts. Making an XBL account is something different though, because it's also a Live account, and MS could circumvent the 3rd party rules by simply doing it through their regular live service. Sony spent a lot of money building their ecosystem. I can completely understand why Sony wouldn't want to just suddenly allow MS to build its own ecosystem through PS users.
Doesn't Ubisoft have an achievement system with UPlay? What's the difference? That Ubisoft doesn't make their own console?
Yes. But Ubisoft isn't competing against Sony in the console space. They compete on software, but in that case, Ubisoft is a partner with Sony.
Been a couple months since I turned on my X360 when I played Espgaluda II). lol despite having it for years and played a good amount of games my GS is so small (like 6000 ish)compared to my trophies on PS (lvl 14 2000 ish trophies 4 plats). My GS could use a boost but it's not going to be minecraft. Put Rare replay on Switch and I will complete every game in the collection. Will never happen.
Minecraft has in game achievements. Why is it necessary to link this version to the Xbox ecosystem? Also... Nintendo, get with the times and add you own achievements already...
Only a baby would need achievements. Jeez what's the world coming to when people want a pat on the back just for playing a game. U do realise game achievements won't transfer to real life. In the real world you still have no achievements lol
Playing video games in general do nothing for your life aside from waste it so I don't see your point. With a comment like that, why are you even on a gaming forum.
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