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E3 2018: Microsoft finally comes out of its "self-imposed damage control position"

GamesIndustry: "As the curtain falls on another E3, the consensus appears to be that Xbox had a much stronger year than PlayStation. According to industry analysts, though, Sony essentially ceded the floor to Microsoft, not so much 'losing' E3 as electing not to directly compete with its great rival."

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OB1Biker60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

'the consensus appears to be that Xbox had a much stronger year than PlayStation. '

Yea I call shameless BS on that one.
'Sony essentially ceded the floor to Microsoft, not so much 'losing' E3 as electing not to directly compete with its great rival.'
Ok give me numbers then. What games were on the show floor, talking about 'ceding floor' ?
They are actually talking about the 'briefing'

JaguarEvolved60d ago

It's very funny that Microsoft actually had a weak showing but people were bedazzled by them talking about the 95 percent of the multiplatform games they had and them also acquiring studio which doesn't mean anything because they already had a lot of studios. It's nice that I saw a lot of games I'll be playing on my pc at the Microsoft Xbox conference but where were their exclusive titles? What does acquiring studio now that can't produce something of substance for another 4 , 5 or more years. People are so silly. People need to stop giving credit for incompetence. Nintendo and Sony has managed to make exclusive games that are on the horizon with a lot released previously. Let's give Microsoft credit for trying. Here's a trying trophy. Such rubbish.
Did anyone see the three amazing exclusive games Sony showed? Death stranding intrigues me but I need to see more

NewMonday60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

Microsoft are still in promise mode since the start of the generation.

did they give us a reason to buy an Xbox this year or next? nope!

give us a few great exclusives then we can start changing the conversation.

Sony had a bad presentation but still won, this is how sad it is for MS.

OB1Biker60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

People said Sony had a weak E3, I disagree. They had a weak presentation but their presence at E3 was remarkable. Can you think of many E3 they had such amazing games on display? It's cool if people are happy with Xbox E3, doesn't bother me, but I'd question the comparison

marquisray60d ago

same for Sony, for godsake, how many time do you show death stranding and still don't understand what's it about, or a voy in tights that never kill anyone, wow

343_Guilty_Spark60d ago

95% of games that people play are multiplat.

Obscure_Observer60d ago

@OB1Biker

"It's cool if people are happy with Xbox E3, doesn't bother me, but I'd question the comparison"

You got a fair point.

Imo is because Sony only show already announced stuff. Microsoft announced new stuff.

Yes, aside from Battletoads it´s Halo, Gears and Forza again. Those games hardly will make new gamers make the jump for Xbox or even bough an Xbox console, but it´s enough to please Halo, Gears and Forza fans as such myself.

That said, Phil did a great job acquiring/assembling five new first party studios. New AAA games on Game Pass. More AAA first party games day one on Game Pass. More BC games. New games develop using the X as the base hardware. More Xbox One X enhanced games. More japanese games (multiplat). New Xbox (Scarlet) confirmed.

That´s a lot more than Sony showed. They didn´t say nothing about the games they showed. No release dates. No PSN news, no PSNow news, No new games for PSVR aside From Software´s new game. No new first party PS4 games. No developers on stage talking about their games on detail.

OB1Biker60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

@obscure
Heres the misunderstanding. Your talking about the presentation (and BTW Days Gone did get a release date, and a few PSVR games were announced).
A lot of people seem to assess a one hour presentation with the actual E3 event if anything, the press has made them think that way. I'm sorry but Spider man, Days Gone, TLOU II , Ghost etc demo at the event people can play are more valuable than some vague notion that acquired studio will deliver in the future. For that matter most of these studio were already working for Ms We all know the generation is in its last years and now is not the time anymore for hype cgi trailers or promises
So like I said, it's cool if people like it but the comparison is in favour of delivering the new games and the gameplay reveals were definitely new and wowing.

OB1Biker59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

@obscure
My previous comment may have been not clear enough. What I saying is, look, on the show floor people are playing Days Gone, people are playing Spiderman, lot of other dermos and PSVR too. Behind closed doors demo for other new games. The presentation is obviously not the main point I take from E3

TheCommentator59d ago

Jaguar Evolved said, "...acquiring studio which doesn't mean anything because they already had a lot of studios... What does acquiring studio now that can't produce something of substance for another 4 , 5 or more years."

Math not your strong suit? They doubled their 1st party studios, with 2 being brand new and two that were formerly multiplatform, so how does that mean nothing? Also. why would you think it takes 4-5 years to make a game when developers can easily release sequels every couple of years?

Besides, Ninja Theory is already deep in development of a game MS could have shown. Playground is hard at work on their second studios' project. Undead Labs just finished up on SoD2 and will be starting on their next project too. Compulsion will be starting their next project in a few months. The Initiative is getting started now too (but they may be 3-4 years off since they are still assembling a team). Filter in MS' established studios, like Rare, 343, and The Coalition, etc. and there's now a great opportunity to have a steady stream of games coming... and MS says they're not finished with building their 1st party portfolio either.

People are so silly. MS makes it known that they're serious about their commitment to gaming again, which is why PS fanboys have dogged MS for years, and now it's still not good enough because they didn't have boatloads of exclusives launching this year too.

neutralgamer199259d ago

Jaguar

Thank you. Ms made promises and announced in a major way of buying 5 studios. 3 of the studios were already making Xbox exclusives

In screen launch exclusive on the mic EXCLUSIVE

Don't get me wrong MS and ubi had the most organizer presentations but Sony brought the hammer down with games

Ms saying we Will be the place to play and we will make powerful consoles are such PR lines. PS5 could come out a year before next Xbox and have the market share once again so ms have a very steep uphill battle the way I see it

Ps5 in 2019

Whole year on the market to themselves. Have a 10-15 million lead before Xbox is out and like ps3 play the catch up role the whole next generation

Sony releasing pro a year earlier than Xbox x was a very small business move

End of the day talking won't make a difference time to back up what Phil said or be stuck behind next Ps5. I was just laughing saying finally they understand games matter yo he able to sell games consoles

Rachel_Alucard59d ago

If MS hadn't hogtied all the world premiers then Sony would've easily won. They had to cut 10 minutes for 2 concerts and 7 minutes so everyone could move to the next area. The rest of the time was eaten up by a handful of demos. This show was planned out at least 6 months ago, so you know they had to work with what they got.

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MuddyWaters60d ago

'the consensus appears to be that Xbox had a much stronger year than PlayStation. '

Where are you getting your quotes from because I don't see them in this article. I don't think anyone other than those who work for Microsoft would say such nonsense.

OB1Biker60d ago

That's literally in the first sentence in the article

MuddyWaters60d ago

I see it now, lol. Well they did have a much stronger year in the context of an E3 show. The way you wrote it implied they had a stronger year overall which I strongly disagree with.

PrematuaProcrastin8a59d ago

Really? Because king Sony fanboy Colin Moriarty himself says Xbox won, so does Jim sterling,and any other games journalist worth his salt.

Obscure_Observer60d ago

@OB1Biker

Dude, just give up. Sony had a decent show, their games are amazing state of art. That said there´s nothing NEW to talk about. No release dates to be excited for aside Spiderman which already had a release date!

Sony´s E3 presentation leaves a bad taste in the mouths of PS4 gamers because the show leave fans wondering what´s NEXT for PS4.

That´s is the truth, otherwise Shu Yoshida wouldn´t have to come out to publicy state that there´s new first party PS4 games which hasn´t be announced yet. I belive in his words but you know what it is. Damage control!

Honestly, how many PS4 first party games are you expecting Sony to announce this year? Remember: They have 3 big events this year.

Razzer60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

lol....what a crock of shit. PS4 has a pipeline of games in place. Sony didn’t have to buy a bunch studios so that one day they can deliver the games. No, the games are on the way. Worry about what’s next? Bullshit. We know what is next. Spider-man. Days Gone. Ghosts. TLOU2. Death Stranding. Dreams. The next God of War. The next HZD. And more on the way. Damage control? You wish. What damage???

Obscure_Observer60d ago

@Razzer

"Sony didn’t have to buy a bunch studios so that one day they can deliver the games."

No? Have you ever heard that those who live in glass houses should not throw stones? What about GG, Naughy Dog, Sucker Punch and Media Molecule just to name a few? Smdh. You don´t even know what SIE Worldwide Studios is made of, do you? Do yourself a favor and GTFO!

"The next God of War. The next HZD."

Are those games confirmed yet? You have a nice Crystal Ball!

"Damage control? You wish. What damage???"

By Yoshida-san:

“In terms of are there any unannounced PS4 [exclusives] in development, yes there are,” he told Jagat Review, seemingly the only outlet that got to speak with any of the company’s bigwigs in Los Angeles this week. “I can’t talk about when we’ll announce, but there are new titles.”

You´re free to live in the Lalala land all you want, but the truth is that after E3, Sony left people wondering what´s next for PS4, or those questions would never be made. Deal with it!

http://www.pushsquare.com/n...

Razzer59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

Oh wow. Yeah, Einstein, I’m not saying Sony didn’t buy those studios. They didn’t buy them 5 years into their third generation of consoles because they suddenly discovered the need to make games. They built and acquired and studios throughout their history. Some didn’t pan out, but their core studio group continues to be stronger than what MS has. Sony didn’t leave their fans in a wasteland whole their competitor cranked out game after game, now did they? Nope, that was Microsoft. And were you complaining about how you were worried about what was next for Microsoft all that time. lol.... hardly. Just being the devoted fanboy you are and thanking MS for the tidbits you received.

And I don’t need a crystal ball to know more HZD and GoW are coming. Just like no one had any doubt more Halo and Gears was coming even before they were announced. It is called ‘common sense’. Something you severely lack.

And it is downright hilarious that you believe you speak for Sony fans. Who do you think you are kidding?

Obscure_Observer59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

@Razzer

"Just being the devoted fanboy you are and thanking MS for the tidbits you received"

MS Haters and Hipocrites always cracks me up. XD

Let me clarify some things for you:

I´m not the one wishing on Microsoft games while talking crap about them! I hate hypocrites! I hate pathetics scumbags disguised as gamers which has to go low to the point of resort to a program to steal and exploit points to play Xbox One games for free. So much exclusives to play i guess? /S

And they still got the NERVE to say this (MS) studio "Kick Ass!" while steal from them instead of support them. I swear, those people are scum and should be banned from gaming communities. Smdh.

Sorry for the little rant. Lol.

Anyway, the games are comming! And i can´t wait for more of that sweet hypocrisy! Trust me, there will be plenty!

Razzer59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

lol....you have lost it. Completely. And you are making shit up again. Being a liar must be hard work. First you are making up shit about me talking crap about Xbox games. Name them. And then you are talking about me stealing MS Rewards points? LOL.....yeah, I snuck into Phil Spencer’s office and stole them from his desk! Playground Games has received plenty of my hard earned cash through the Windows Store and yes they do indeed Kick ass!

Nah...you just like to lie. Just like this bullshit you have been spouting about Sony “running out” of exclusives. And now, you can read the minds of PS fans and know they are worried about the “what’s next”. The level of bullshit you have reached is an all time high. Achievement unlocked!

derek59d ago

Speak for yourself, dont pretend to speak for all playstation gamers.

Obscure_Observer59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

@Razzer

"Being a liar must be hard work."

Yeah, tell me about it. Your words:

"I don’t plan on EVER paying a dollar for Game Pass. WROTE a little C# program to do bing searches every day. Racking up 400 points a day without even trying."

"You can use Microsoft Rewards to pay for it like I do. Granted, there probably not a lot of us that do that."

"I really enjoyed it. Forza Horizon 4 looked incredible. Can’t wait to play it in October VIA GAME PASS on Windows 10."

You were saying?

"Playground Games has received plenty of my hard earned cash through the Windows Store and yes they do indeed Kick ass!"

What i said:

I hate hypocrites! I hate pathetics scumbags disguised as gamers which has to go low to the point of resort to a program to steal and exploit points to play Xbox One games for free.

And they still got the NERVE to say this (MS) studio "Kick Ass!" while steal from them instead of support them. I swear, those people are scum and should be banned from gaming communities. Smdh

You see...

That´s you and how you play Xbox One games. You said it yourself! You want to play Xbox One games; exploiting/stealing points so you´ll will never pay a dime for it.

"Playground Games Kick Ass!"

You´re a disgrace to gaming! Every time you get excited about an Xbox One game, you´ll remember that i know who you are and what you do to play said games!

Razzer59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

"You were saying? "

LOL. That is what you think is stealing MS points? oh wow......your ignorance is astounding. You know I also go to my MS rewards page every day to get an extra 50 to 80 points. Do you know how that works? BING SEARCHES. MS gives me extra points for bing searches they create for me. Do I really care about the links they generate? Of course not. Do they care that I don't care? NO! They just want me doing Bing searches. So my program does exactly what MS does. Bing searches. MS has made it clear that they don't give a shit about how or what bing searches I do as long as I do bing searches. I am happy to oblige.

"Getting rewarded is easy—just search or shop with Microsoft."
https://rewards.microsoft.c...

LOL.....here is today's MS generated bing seach!

Best Royal Ascot hats!!!! 10 more points!
https://www.bing.com/images...

So now. You are educated. Stop being a liar. Stop speaking out ignorance.

"Playground Games has received plenty of my hard earned cash through the Windows Store and yes they do indeed Kick ass!"

Are you really this thick? Forza Horizon 3 isn't on Game Pass, Einstein.

The fact is that you are butthurt every time I mention playing Xbox games on PC. For whatever reason, that triggers you so bad. So bad you made up this fictional story about how my program steals points out of thin air. Your lies are almost as bad as your ignorance.

"That´s you and how you play Xbox One games. You said it yourself! You want to play Xbox One games; exploiting/stealing points so you´ll will never pay a dime for it.

You´re a disgrace to gaming! Every time you get excited about an Xbox One game, you´ll remember that i know who you are and what you do to play said games!"

LOL. Just shows me that not only are you a liar, but you actually believe your lies.

Obscure_Observer59d ago

@Razzer

"The fact is that you are butthurt every time I mention playing Xbox games on PC. For whatever reason, that triggers you so bad."

You are a hater and a troll! You´re a hypocrite! You talk shit about Xbox all the time but all i see is you excited to play Xbox One games on your Windows 10 PC. A Microsoft platform! I understand that Xbox One consoles is redundant to you since you have a decent PC to run its games. But the WHY you hate Xbox consoles so much is beyond me. Blind hate for a platform which you get PC ports because PC has not enough exclusives for you!

YOU´re the one who gets pissed everytime that an Xbox One X article pops up specially when devs achieves great results on the console! You just can´t help yourself but tell everyone that PC owns Xbox One X consoles. I mean, really? How old are you? 12? If Xbox consoles doesn´t interest you, why do you have to show up on Xbox One X articles other than trolling? Smh.

You said you won´t ever pay a dollar for Game Pass because you created a bot to mine microsoft reward points for you so you can "pay" your Game Pass subscrition with it! Then you said you can´t wait to play Forza Horizon 4 VIA GAMEPASS! NOW, HOW YOU´RE SUPPORTING PLAYGROUND GAMES OR ANY MICROSOFT STUDIO WITH YOUR HARD EARNED CASH AGAIN???

You see

YOU´re the liar! You are scum! Pathetic hypocrite disguised as gamer which has to exploit and cheat to play Xbox One games for free! People like you disgust me and should be banned from gaming communites!

Razzer59d ago

Oh that is rich coming from you. You shit on PlayStation every chance you get. You have the nerve to call me a hypocrite? lol....check that mirror pal. You are the guy making up shit about Sony "running out of exclusives". You have no basis for saying that shit. You are just trolling. You give PS4 Pro as much shit as I give Xbox X. Just stop with your hypocrite nonsense.

You are also the documented liar who claimed Game Pass was not available on PC whatsoever before I (with help from Aaron Greenberg) made you backtrack. It burns you up so much that PC is now on equal footing with Xbox in Microsoft's eyes. So much that all it takes is their mere mention of a Xbox game being playing on PC...and you are set off. I'm not going to apologize for being a PC gamer.

As far as my "bot", again, you are such an ignorant fool when it comes to this stuff. When I started using MS rewards, I was manually typing in each letter of the alphabet into bing search. Do try and let that sink in to your thick skull. MS is so stringent about their bing pay-to-surf program that the damn letter 'A' qualifies as a legit bing search for points. So spare me your ignorant rant about what you know jack shit about especially considering MS makes money off of bing searches. Or are you so naive that you think they do this rewards program out of the goodness of their hearts? Are you really that stupid? My bing searches makes money for MS and my points in return pay for Game Pass. Welcome to the economy Microsoft created. If you want to bitch....bitch at Microsoft. They created the pay-to-surf rewards program. They created Game Pass. The made it so people can use their rewards to pay for Game Pass. And you....feigning outrage, vomiting out lies, and damn hypocrisy flowing from your pores.......lol....just being you.

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spicelicka60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

I think there's a lot of misunderstanding here. Instead of correcting the article and everyone else I'll just say what I feel happened:

Current year
- Sony ahead in 2018 with the stellar God of war, well received Detroit, and upcoming Spiderman.
- MS has not won 2018 with Sea of thieves not being reviewed well, State of Decay (not AAA) also not reviewed well, Crackdown delayed again, and only being kind of redeemed by Forza Horizon 4 which will be amazing as always.

E3
- Sony has a much better lineup of current an upcoming games, every game looked amazing. However, their show was apparently not well put together, and there was no shock value.
- MS had a lot of shock value with Halo Infinite tease looking amazing (really striking a chord with the fans) and the 5 new studios. Also their presentation was well made, with a great showing of multiplatform games. Problem is, with Halo infinite is not even likely for 2019 and new studios having nothing to show (obviously), they kind of pulled a Sony.

There you have it. If you are going to shock value MS won E3 (not 2018), and if you're going for the actual lineup of games shown Sony won E3. If you're talking just 2018, Sony won it.

And yes, I own both.

OB1Biker59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

How about if your talking about the E3 event itself? Playable demo definitely have shock value to me What are the games of E3? Halo?

Haaliax59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

Microsoft showed 18 exclusive games, and 15 were World Premiere. They remarked it at the begining and at the end. Also most of the stuff has a near release date, most of the stuff is new (I think none has been un the last 3 e3 as sony's stuff). Ms gave excelent reasons to own a x1x: Beside the new line up of exclusives, they're also giving most of them on day one in their Game Pass. If you plan to get at least 2 of the hundreds of games they have (For example gears and halo), the game pass is a steal

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DeadSilence60d ago

Studios acquisitions are dumb now? Gaming media isn't even trying anymore.

It's a disaster we got to this point where good journalists actually have to make clickbait articles to get views and money, Industry biz used to be amazing but now all I see it's bs up there.

Microsoft did good, having more first party is never dumb, ask Sony and their insane list of amazing devs.

King_Lothric59d ago

"Studios acquisitions are dumb now?"

Is not dumb at all but it doesn't equal automatic quality games either. Is not something to brag on if they doesn't have any product to show.

PhoenixUp60d ago

Microsoft still has to explain why their 2018 first party lineup will be a disappointment outside of Forza Horizon 4

AspiringProGenji60d ago

“WE’re done this gen. Next one we will try harder.” - Microsoft

MuddyWaters60d ago

Sounds like the Wii U, not the Xbox One. They would not be able to go on stage and show 50 games if they were done. Maybe it is you who should try harder.

Lokii60d ago

Sounds like last gen too

King_Lothric59d ago

Thank you for the honesty Microsoft.

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Obscure_Observer60d ago

@PhoenixUp

Disappointment? You should ask Gears fan about Gears 5!

Halo Infinite? Now, pay attention and watch closely! We got some PS Fanatics among us that though they will never goin to admit it; they´re DYING to know MORE about what Infinite is about!

I won´t mention their names. But they used to pose as PC gamers. Watch them closely on the upcoming Halo articles. They never disappoint on contradict themselves. They love to pose as MS haters, but they are nothing but a bunch of turncoats and hypocrites. You just watch. ;)

JonTheGod59d ago

Halo Infinite is nothing but a new game engine at the moment. It won't be a game until late 2020 at the earliest.

AngelicIceDiamond59d ago

Its interesting because yes its the same Halo, Grears, Forza. Understand these aren't small games you can throw under the rug. Its the same stuff but all 3 still have huge fanbases and are mega blockbuster AAA games and hopefully sell a little more Xbox's.

Halo, Gears, Forza, Battletoads, Crackdown and Ori. For MS sakes its the strongest line up they've had in awhile.

Razzer59d ago

“Microsoft still has to explain why their 2018 first party lineup will be a disappointment....”

“Disappointment? You should ask Gears fan about Gears 5! “

2018

Alucard_42059d ago

enlighten us on what is there to be excited from MS that came out or will come out in 2018??? I think I made this sentence super easy for you to answer btw.

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BeardedDrachen60d ago

People were praising MS for stopping the hemorrhaging that MS caused in the first place.

JesusBuiltmyHotrod60d ago

Multi=plats and more of the same, gears, halo, forza....just shows toe core xbox fanbase is happy with the same tired status quo and nothing will change. Some in the media are MS shills.

PFFT60d ago

But most if not all are Sony Shills. And thats a fact. They continue to hide all of Sonys BS with Positive media and people likes yourselves eat it all up. IGN is a clear example. They sweep all the Sony dirt and BS under the rug and just report the positives.

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