Does Microsoft Really Need To Develop A New Xbox?

Microsoft, at least for single-players, had a positive E3 this year, focusing on long-term projects, studio acquisitions, and non-reactionary business decisions—at least, until the conference closed with Phil Spencer stoking the old console war flame with a simple comment: “[Microsoft] is deep into architecturing the next Xbox consoles.”

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maybelovehate63d ago

As long as there is new tech available to make it better they should release a new iteration. No reason to hold developers back.

Eonjay63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

Well of course. I think the only real issue is making a comment about building another console when they haven't really produced anything with the S/X that compares to what Sony is doing with the 4/PRO. Looking at Ghost and TLOU, there is nothing that Microsoft had that compared to that. But the thing is they could and they have the power to do so. So I think the point is why they would be trying to sell their consumers on yet another more powerful console when they clearly don't have the talent to use it? Imagine what Nintendo could do with the X.

I'm not convinced we need another PlayStation yet from that E3 conference.

maybelovehate63d ago

Gears or War 4 is still a tech showcase in the industry. As are all the Forza games. Ghost and TLOU look ok. Not much as far as effects going on, but they are going for more realistic. Which is fine but hardly good showcases for graphics. PS badly needs a new console. Games like Red Dead and Shadows Die Twice will most likely be the best games of this generation and X and PC will have a firm hold over having the best versions.

Goldby63d ago

If ps badly needs a new console, what does that say about the Xbox one or one s?

Remember at the end of the day the Xbox community is mainly using the Xbox one or s. Not the x. Just like with playstation it is the ps4 that has more sales than the pro.

xX-oldboy-Xx62d ago

maybelovehate - You are one delusional soul, gow does nothing special - their latest showing was even more disappointing

Nothing and I mean NOTHING - comes close to what Sonys 1st party is offering. MS has the most powerful console and their games look average at best.

MS duds.

Noskypeno62d ago

Thats why 343 built a new engine from scratch. Yeah we can give sony credit for finally pushing ms to where theyre heading but you cant deny the visuals in halo infinite and gears 5 along with multiplats like anthem and metro

doggo8462d ago (Edited 62d ago )


"Gears or War 4 is still a tech showcase in the industry. As are all the Forza games. Ghost and TLOU look ok"

There is no way in hell gears 4 or any forza game comes close to Horizon zero dawn, uncharted 4, TLOU 2 and ghost of tsushima. Must be tough for you to accept that Sony's first party are a cut above the rest when it comes to graphics

Godmars29062d ago

"Gears or War 4 is still a tech showcase in the industry."

It is?

Who even really talks about it other than fans of the series?

Skull52162d ago

Microsoft’s news of having the most powerful hardware in consoles from here on out is important, a lot of people want that. It was true with the Xbox and 360 and it’s true today. The original vision of Xbox One was misguided but they have learned from it and everything coming from Microsoft now is good news.

Gunstar7562d ago

Gears was an amazing looking game and was rightly praised.

Godmars29062d ago (Edited 62d ago )

System power is - nearly - inconsequential. It wasn't system power that gave the 360 the advantages it had against the PS3, but support. Games. That launching over a year before. Likewise if power were a sole key factor the XBX should be outselling the base PS4 much less the Pro or the XB1.

That's it, all you got? Phantom disagrees about Gears 4 barely having a blip of attention?

MuddyWaters62d ago

This is why Phil came out on stage to provide confidence they are still making consoles and even then we have articles like this. Shawn Layden also confirmed in 2017 that they are indeed coming out with a PS5, so it's all irrelevant because we all knew they are always working behind the scenes on new hardware, what we don't know is exactly when.

That's it, yet we still see the same people arguing over their toys prepping themselves years away from the next generation. Typical.

Critic4l_Strik362d ago

"Gears or War 4 is still a tech showcase in the industry. As are all the Forza games. Ghost and TLOU look ok." Ghost and TLOU just look ok??? Dude, you better have your eyes checked.

Petebloodyonion61d ago (Edited 61d ago )

Even if MS could pull out the best exclusive off all time for the X, would you expect ppl to rush at the store to buy an X as a 3rd console? Especially late in this generation cycle?

Also, MS had no choice about mentioning a new Xbox, if they didn't N4G and Reddit would be flooded with articles about how MS is trying to impose their streaming agenda where you never really own the game and how they are the blight of this world.

Dragonscale61d ago

@maybe, you are really reaching with that bullcrap. Ghost and TLOU 2 look fantastic and to say they look just ok is severe damage control because nothing on xbone or scorpio comes even close lol. You are such a try hard.

EyeAmTJ61d ago

dont over hype TLOU2 & Ghost, specially TLOU2 smh

Godmars29061d ago

Though bring up Gears 4 as a tech benchmark when no one even talks about it as a game?

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agent453262d ago

That is the issue, consoles do not utilize the latest hardware tech but the older tech. Look at PS4 and Xbox One with the fact that PS3 did not sold well at $600.00 plus tax, it prevented console manufacturers from investing in new technology. Both PS4/Xbox one were using souped up mobile technology.

Bobafret62d ago

The Xbox 360 released with the r500 graphics chipset before it was ever released to PC, and the Ps2 had the cell architecture, so your statement is not always true.

rockwhynot62d ago

Yeah its mobile processor doesn't belong inside there. It's not a mobile console. We need a new Xbox home console with an AMD ryzen cpu.

The_Sage62d ago

Red Dead has content that is exclusive to the PS4. If you want the entire game, you should but the PS4 version.

ImGumbyDammit62d ago

Sorry, I don't have the same desire to wear those assless chaps as PS fanboys do. I will pass on the that. But, I suppose if there are Xbox fanboys that like that stuff (no judging) they can get those same online multiplayer timed exclusive doo-dads a little bit later.

maybelovehate62d ago

The trade off is you have to play hundreds of hours with worse performance in order to have 1 hour of exclusive content that still doesn't run as well. So no logical people will be caring. Plus it is just timed and already confirmed not part of the main story.

Critic4l_Strik362d ago


"The trade off is you have to play hundreds of hours with worse performance in order to have 1 hour of exclusive content that still doesn't run as well."

Oh, you already played RDR on the PS4/Pro? You can certainly confirm it performs worse?

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ILostMyMind62d ago

Since XBox is just a cheap mini PC, no game is being hold back because of it.

neutralgamer199262d ago


I think you need to go see a doctor because something is loose inside your head or you are a different level troll

Because no one is that dumb I am sorry in what universe is gears 4 a tech demo

maybelovehate62d ago

Gears 4 is a tech demo. The PC version of the game is beyond anything on any console. Or PC for that matter, right now. Sony has some great developers. Naughty Dog in particular makes awesome animations. But animations do not make a tech demo. And sadly the animations in Uncharted 4 are in 30fps. Which is depressing. Sucks they are limited by the trash hardware Sony puts out.

rainslacker62d ago

The first gears was a technical showcase for the gen. The 4th, it wasn't really a tech showcase, just a prettier version of what had been done before.

Critic4l_Strik362d ago


You keep on praising the systems specs and the performance of the games on the XB1X. Yet, none of that is helping the brand outsell the "inferior" console. You can talk all you want about how more powerful it is, but any of that is helping to take over.

maybelovehate62d ago

So many Sony bots in here imagining a world where Sony has any good games running at 4k, 60fps. It is is a nice dreams my bots. A nice dream.

neutralgamer199262d ago

Very nice dreams don't bring pc into this now. If you are talking about consoles than stick with that

God of war
Uncharted 4

These games have set the standard for what a console game can do

I know you are blind to facts abs your arguments are without substance. You keep throwing around stuff that doesn't matter when the one thing that matters are games

Gears 4 was 2 years ago since what have ms delivered?

You keep talking about 4k even x can't do native 4k with 60 FPS so what are you mumbling about. By 2020 about half people in western countries will have 4k TV and that's when Sony will push their next Gen console to have true 4k (and so will ms)

You are the worst hater of ps4 on this site

You are worst than septic
Worst than obsecure

And few others but you are top of the food chain and I don't think that much blind hate is good for you enjoy what you play without downplaying something else

Xbox x is a beast of a console and even ms admitted they need to deliver games that's why they are buying studios. If head of the Xbox admits that how can yall keep denying it

maybelovehate62d ago (Edited 62d ago )

Actually X has pulled off Native 4k and 60fps with Forza. They also pulled it off at times with Halo 5. And let's not forget every single DF article saying that X runs games better. But you are good bot. Programming is off. But you are doing what your savior demands haha.

Critic4l_Strik362d ago

Is Forza, Gears and Halo all youve got? Cant you do better than that? Oh, probably not...shame.

FinalFantasyFanatic61d ago


I certainly don't care when I have a high end pc, I mainly care about the games when it comes to a console, when I want the best possible I performance I go for the pc version.

sinspirit61d ago (Edited 61d ago )

If you keep releasing too many iterations too quickly... You might be holding consumers back, or at least the feeling of.

RosweeSon61d ago

Except they didn’t get the best out of launch model nor the S and don’t get me start on X which basically released alongside 360 games and even older original Xbox games on the most powerful console? X got plenty of power or should have left in the tank.

OnDec7661d ago

How about new original games

Araragifeels 61d ago

So what happened to the Power Of Cloud? Didn't Spencer said that there need for upgrade since Power Of Cloud can do itself.

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gamerzero63d ago

I'm sure there will be another xbox. I just don't think it'll be nearly as soon as people think. In 2020 the x will have only sold around 7 million units. The x is a whole new console there are zero parts from the s in the x it's a new Motherboard new RAM new CPU new GPU everything is new. I can't see Microsoft writing off a console that already does 4k for a console that does a little bit better 4k before they have sold a significant number of units.

jmc888862d ago

The X1X is not powerful. It's wasting a ton of its power with a crap CPU.

It barely does 4k.

So it can barely do 1080/60
barely do 4k/30

Yet people think it's powerful and needs to stay? Wow.

It's a mid-gen upgrade that is losing about 30-50 frames per second, if not more at 1080p. It's got the GPU power, not that much, but enough for rock solid 1440/60 if it had a decent CPU.

They aren't 'writing' off the console, because it was mid-gen extension that was never anything close to a new console generation.

Ju62d ago (Edited 62d ago )

So, for who is the X for then? Must have cost MS a fortune to build. It's obviously too expensive and I guess nobody buys it? Or why does MS need YAC (yet another console)? Didn't that one just release?

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morganfell62d ago

"So, for who is the X for then?"

It was for Microsoft. It was for bragging rights. They were played, thinking that power was the key to Sony's success.

I am not sure who the developers were that MS talked to about the need for better hardware but they were either ignored or ill advised. Its not about the hardware. Its about the games.

Look at what we just saw from real game play at E3. Not trailers, real gameplay. It is the dedication of the company and the skill of the developers. The X1S was all the console MS needed. Just think of the wonders they could have worked if they took all the money for the entire X1X project - the R&D, the advertising, the sales losses per unit, all of it and sunk it in development with talented studios.

Ju61d ago

Indeed. Just imagine a PS5 will release at 399....

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gamerzero62d ago

What are you basing that on? With the PS5 we have had rumors of early dev kits, rumors of manufacturing having been started and we know that Sony has been submitting code revisions to Ryzen to AMD.

Aside from Phil's vague comment at E3 there has been no real information. Last gen there were tons of rumors about a new xbox and PS so it's not like there wouldn't have been rumors by now if they were on the same time frame as Sony.

Be realistic here the x was an expensive new console. There are zero overlapping parts with the S. In 2020 given the sales pace so far the x will have sold 8 million at best. It's extremely unlikely that Microsoft is going to make such a big investment in the x to only sell so few units and roll into a new generation and all the costs involved.

chiefJohn11762d ago (Edited 62d ago )

@gamerzero There was talks of the next Xbox already in development when the X dropped. Phil's comments are nothing new outside of the code name. Ms plan to support the X throughout next gen which is selling faster than the pro btw. Don't act surprised when the next Xbox is announced

343_Guilty_Spark62d ago


Basing on talks from Brad Sams (host of the Sams report) and Paul Thurrot ( a long time Windows Insider. I trust their sources are accurate. They will launch Xbox Scarlet family of won’t be one SKU and probably have a simultaneous launch of their streaming service.

Ninja_Ryu62d ago (Edited 62d ago )

I'm bet you been saying that this entire decade. I guess the One X aka the beast has not made an impact

gamerzero62d ago


What data do you have to support that it's selling faster than the Pro. The PS4 family is selling 3x as many consoles it's statistically impossible that the x sells more units on a monthly basis.

Lets say the PS4 is selling 1,000,000 units 20% of that would be 200,000 Pro's
Let's say the xbox is selling 333,333 50% of that would be 169,000 x's (it's unlikely that 50% of xbox's sold are x's I'm being very generous here)

And if the x was outselling the pro Greenberg would be yelling about it. And if your going to make your claim based on December when Microsoft said "best selling premium console" remember that was US only.

ImGumbyDammit62d ago (Edited 62d ago )


So your rumors are more believable than the next Xbox rumors? They are both based on rumors. "We know... " what does that mean? Nothing. We really know nothing. Except that both console makers are bringing new devices because both Kodera and Spencer said they were. That is all we know. On the Sony side, it will be here when and include what? We don't know! On the Microsoft side, we know they (multiple devices) will be here when and include what? We don't know! That is why they are called rumors. Don't put up your evidence, "We know", solely based on rumors as reality.

I will say this about one rumor. Unless the PS5 is coming out this year, there is no way manufacturing has begun for anything related to the next PS5. So you can call that rumor 100% bogus. And if it did come out this year, that would mean the Navi rumor was false. See how that works one rumor ruins another because don't exactly play well with each other.

gamerzero62d ago (Edited 62d ago )


It's not a rumor that AMD has sent in code revisions for Ryzen.

When I say manufacturing I mean that in a very loose term. IE they have presented a design and Global Foundries has accepted it and started preparation for production. Preparation is part of manufacturing.

And as for rumors again I haven't said there won't be a next xbox, I just said I don't think it's as far a long or in the same time frame as PS5. Rumor are rumors, you are correct, but the rumors for PS5 seem to repeatedly indicate they are quite far into the production.

Also please note that I haven't stated anything as fact, this is my opinion.

ImGumbyDammit62d ago (Edited 62d ago )


Oh please, as soon as you say "We know" it is not an opinion but implied fact. "I believe" would mean an opinion so stop with that revision of your original comment.

Show the exact factual story (not based on anybody that heard from a friend or rumblings here and there) No, that actual documented proof that something is happening about manufacturing. Please... Otherwise, stop with the bull about your statements not being a rumor (and that goes for anybody making similar statements about the Xbox too.

And please you are changing goal posts about manufacturing. That still would not be happening at the level you describe unless you once again your are guaranteeing it will be out next year. Which again invalidates the Navi rumor. Reserving space at a spa two months from now does not mean I am in massage mode. Well if taken "loosely" I suppose it does.

>> "Aside from Phil's vague comment at E3 there has been no real information. "
Again there is no real information about the PS5. What has Kodera said about the PS5. Something about crouching and leaping up in 2021? Again I am not saying any rumors are real facts about the next Xbox. But, there hasn't been real facts about the PS5 either but that hasn't stopped you from using rumors not associated with anybody official as facts on the PS5 end. See that is what I mean. You will throw around "here say" on the PS5 as fact and ignore several articles (e.g. last week about the multiple devices taken from somebody that has intimate knowledge of Microsoft plans and from directly seeing internal documents. Documents that have dates mentioning 2020. I take his statements as a rumor but, he did say an actual year. I have yet to see even a rumor on the PS5 about a date from an inside source. Have you? Just pure conjecture based on rumors. A devkit? Rumor - that must mean it is near. Navi is built for PS5 exclusively - an opinion piece by blog on Forbes (anonymous industry sources, please, - that article was a joke). I am not saying any rumors are false but basing them as truth is just as bad. I find trying to connect the rumor dots to create a path to some answer is proof of anything is hilarious.

gamerzero62d ago (Edited 62d ago )


This is all I said.

"With the PS5 we have had rumors of early dev kits, rumors of manufacturing having been started and we know that Sony has been submitting code revisions to Ryzen to AMD."

You do realize that that everything you've posted was basically a reply to one sentence that I posted.

Your just taking what I am saying putting it in your own context and trying to use it against me.

Really, your just mad because I implied that IN MY OPINION xbox isn't as far along as I THINK PS5 is.

And yes it is a fact that Sony has been submitting code revisions for Ryzen.

Other than that I literally said everything else was rumors.

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GaboonViper63d ago

Absolutely, and Scarlet so far seems in good hands after a very solid E3 show.

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corroios62d ago

Very solid. Lol. Yup. The next 12months will be amazing. Just imagine if they had show some New games? And not the same old franchises...