App Trigger: "The PlayStation platform is locking players out of their Epic Fortnite accounts on other platforms and Sony has entered a crossroads: adapt or be left behind."
PlayStation featured cross platform play before Xbox & Nintendo since 2002
https://www.polygon.com/201... For a company who does not currently do backwards compatibility they sure are backwards.
They had backwards comparability and pushed for Xbox crossplay last gen while Microsoft declined it. Short memory huh?
They had backwards compatibility then removed it last gen you mean. They 'pushed' for Xbox crossplay last gen? Which alternate dimension did this happen in? Anyone defending this to this day...you know what, your comments are there for all to see. For all the noise and whinging against EA and the like, the same people pipe up in defence of Sony about this is ridiculous.
It's time people buy a ps4 to play with ps4 gamers the best console available this generation
Leve us alone autistic screeching soy boys! PS4 and PC crossplay has been a thing since launch - the two most dominant platforms today. So mind your own platforms. We are doing good so no thak you. You guys are so desperate to demonized PS4. Stop. https://www.google.com/amp/...
@Septic PS3 removed backwards compatibility because people said they didn't want it and it made the console cost too much. Now fanboys like you claim it's an essential feature, even though you sang a different tune last generation.
xbox has backward compatibility yet they will be selling the tales of vesperia remaster, and xbox fanboy hypocrites will buy it.
@twiggy "because people said they didn't want it and it made the console cost too much." Probably doesn't help that they had a grossly overpriced system at the time, and that they completely botched the feature initially. Its clear that Sony messed up when it came to the PS3s architecture and that is what holds back the PS4 from getting BC.
These fanboys find it really hard to understand that XBL was a paid service on 360 while online was free for PS3. MS didn't think it was fair for their consumers then. Now PSN is a paid service, it's more reasonable. But this is N4G, where fanboys and agendas circle jerk. Stop by PS4 reddit and checkout the top current posts.
@TekoIie "Probably doesn't help that they had a grossly overpriced system at the time, and that they completely botched the feature initially." Every console has it's issues to iron out after launch, I don't really understand your point there... Price was definitely an issue for sure; but the fact remains that BC PS3's are still the greatest functioning example of BC and xbox fanboys said it wasn't a necessary feature. "Its clear that Sony messed up when it came to the PS3s architecture and that is what holds back the PS4 from getting BC." They didn't mess up here, why would they plan for BC again when they caught so much heat for it the last generation? The problem is people don't care about it unless the competition doesn't have it, then it's a big deal. At the end of the day BC doesn't matter, if people care enough to keep their old games they would keep the system that plays them as well.
What dafuq does that article disprove? Sony has still offered cross platform play since PS2, that’s a fact. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...
So what's the problem now? they also still support crossplay with PC. Why block off consoles?
@ZaWarudo That's about as far as their logic goes.
Is that the best information you could find from doing a google search? Apparently you can't even read the title where it says "It’s time PlayStation adopts cross-platform play with Xbox and Nintendo". How many of those games from that list you found support SWITCH/XBOX? Like one game
@ZaWarudo Sony's main competition is consoles not PC's so why make cross play a thing and take a gamble to lose player base on some games as they are cross play. Honestly I would always play on my switch but I accept that is the choice that is made. Since the Xbox it always has been play on your own console with that only network. Still till today people forget that MS said no at the start of the generation. This is a PR move by MS to use this against SONY, people are buying into it. I don't see apple and MS join as a team to make universal OS for PC and MAC why not jump on that bandwagon to force them to merge???
Explain why my Epic account is now locked to PS4? Thanks Sony.
You could try asking Epic. Seeing as how they had to agree to Sony's terms in the first place for any of this to happen, they might know.
Because you agreed to TOS. Epic is just blaming Sony to force crossplay plain and simple.
How many times are you guys going to keep repeating this stupidness? This is about cross-play between current consoles, not PS3 cross-play with PC. You are getting no benefit out of PlayStation being closed-minded about this, and neither is the industry. Yes yes we know, PlayStation has all the best games. It has nothing to do with championing bad decisions. There is no reason AT ALL to block cross-play with other platforms. You'd think with the dominance they have in the market, they would go full on goodwill with everything else and really nail down their position, beyond the current cycle.. No game pass, no backward compatibility, no EA access, no pro controller because it would make the playing field uneven, yet they license not 1, not 2, but 3 pro controllers, no cross-play because..reasons. Why are you ok with them making decisions for you? Why is it so standard around here to defend everything these corporations do, on both sides, instead of using your head? It's ok to point out the areas they need to improve in. I promise you it's ok.
We aren't missing out of anything from no cross play either .....It's not like servers are empty.
I think it has to do with the closed nature of psn, xbox live, switch. Is it only an issue if you can't crossplay with ps4? How's that PUBG crossplatform play? What about other "exclusives" like titanfall? PS4 has more cross platform games than xbox one. Even the PS3 has more cross platform games than xbox one. What crossplay with ea access? Only an issue if xbox can't play with ps4 otherwise it's not a big deal right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
So if that's such a great thing, why did they stop? You can't say praise them for attempts for crossplay in the past while simultaneously trying to defend them for trying to block it in the here and now . . . that's just hypocritical and ridiculous.
great. so what's their excuse now?
That was then. This is now.
Simple answer NO Complicated answer because ps fans don't care nor want it against Xbox Ps4 offers cross play with pc so 2 of the most popular do have cross play Xbox can do cross play wiry otters we don't want it on ps4 Thank you for the offer though
As a PC games I would much rather crossplay with mobile, Switch and Xbox One than just PS4. More platforms for me to interact with. Especially with a game like fortnite where I'm likely to get better matchmaking that way because I'm playing with the larger player pool. Thank you for the offer though.
Yeah I don't think you will have a problem finding players in fortnite so use a better example than that Still not gonna happen ps4 keeps outselling the competition meaning this feature, ganepass, Ea access and BC aren't important enough to make a difference. These are all nice to have as complimentary features but can't be the only features
Don’t know what’s with the downvotes. It’s true.
Nintendo had online play back before Playstation and Xbox were even a thing - what's your point?
It’s Really time for them to put their money where their mouth is.....#4theplayers......this isn’t for them. Give people the choice, just like something like EA Access, it’s better to be given a choice then to be told that you don’t need want it. Especially those that have invested a lot of time and money into it.
I was going to agree until I read EA Access. We don’t need 3rd party subscription services on consoles. The only subscription service I like is Gamepass.
but being given the choice for it wouldn’t be so bad
You have too many 3rd party services and you’ll have to subscribe to all of them just to play games from each publisher and that’s not something I want. Now a service like Gamepass is great.
It's a choice. How is that bad? Taking that choice away is hardly fair.
“It's a choice. How is that bad? Taking that choice away is hardly fair.“ Let’s say multiple publishers launch game services on console and they lock their games to their service. That means if you want to play all these games you’ll be forced to subscribe to each and everyone of them. That’s no longer a choice.
We have a choice not to play with Nintendo and Xbox gamers please respect that.
I have the choice to not play with nintendo/mobile or PC gamers too, but i also have the choice to play with them. See, choices are great
Correction, you HAD no choice.
And you didn't make that choice, Sony made it for you so it was never YOUR CHOICE. Stop defending sony like a diehard fanboy.
People have a choice. Buy what Sony is selling or don't. If crossplay, EA access and all that is what you want, choose a platform that offers it.
How do I say this ? multiple publishers launch game services on console and they lock their games to their service. That means if you want to play all these games you’ll be forced to subscribe to each and everyone of them. That’s no longer a choice. From what i understand, you don’t need PS Plus to play F2P. For Xbox, you need Xbox Live to play F2P. See the difference ?
Oh, don't worry. Next gen when Sony releases the PS5 they'll be all "we're for the players", and will suddenly want cross play with MS and Nintendo. They're not doing it now because they're ahead, but next gen they'll suddenly be interested. Just watch.
They provide their gamers with quality games, they are for the gamers.
Oh yeah, for sure. Severely restricting mods, blocking cross play with other consoles, locking gamers out of their Epic accounts, etc. Yeah man, that's what the players want. Absolutely, for the players.
Yeah that’s why majority of gamers don’t buy Playstation because that’s their main concern when buying a game console, so they buy Xbox and Nintendo instead... \s
An interest is there... the current issue is opening up through Microsoft’s client. The most prone to hack os out there. “But the Sony hacks”... yeah! Where do you think the hacks went through?! Plus Microsoft is responsible for one of the largest hacks in history. That is why they do not want to open up. Microsoft os is trash when it comes to hacks and opening any door to that possibility has cost consumers and business millions.
"the current issue is opening up through Microsoft’s client." No. Only Minecraft required Xbox Live for Cross Play. None of the other games need it. That excuse is a bunch of crap.
Sony has had PC and Vita crossplay for a while.
Go play Fornite on PS4 then say goodbye to your Epic account to play the game on the other consoles. Sony locks your Epic account out of other systems. Try again Knack 2/10.
Knack 2/10? Now I know your opinion does not count
Sony is not responsible for other consoles. The game works on PS4 that’s all that matters.
Why play on another console if you're already playing on ps4?
@Razmiran Why not? Knack was a terrible game lol
And that has what to do with crossplay with other consoles?
Then what's wrong with adding a few more platforms to that ?
Don't care much for it really, I don't play online much to begin with.
Wanna play with your mates on xbox if you own a ps4 and you have ps plus?. Buy a gold account! if you cant see through that then you are a fanboy.
No thanks... This only matters to non playstation gamers. Theres a reason why the majority of fortnite gamers that play on ps4 would rather play on ps4. Fortnite dog shit edition on the switch doesnt suddenly become amazing because its portable.
but fortnite 4k edition on the onex does 😉
But does it matter really ? When people think resolutions doesn’t matter to them. As for crossplay, PS4 only crossplay with PC, Mobile and Android.
Sure but Its better on ps4 and pc where the game isnt locked behind a ms paywall 🤗
@UCforce “Fortnite dog shit edition on the switch doesnt suddenly become amazing because its portable.” well someone obviously cares if it’s a better version or they wouldn’t be putting down the switch version would they? @Painted how many people that like competitive online games won’t have PSplus or Xbox Live?
No matter how Xbox One tried to push resolutions and perfromane in future generations. PC is always dominant on resolution and performance. Like I said, some people do care resolutions, but some other care performance. Me ? I maybe do care about resolutions and performance but I need to see if the game is good or not.
Ok... lets do some math here 20-25 mil ps4 players have ps+. Thats 55-60 mil ps4 gamers who might be playing fortnite that dont have ps+ Now, how many gamers that only have an xbox with no xbl are playing fortnite? None thats how many.
Maybe crossplay is not in long term Sony's interest.. I could be wrong here. Microsoft is fine with crossplay, because MS gets revenue from every PC sold for Windows gaming and for Steam gaming, the money still keeps rolling in, in addition to xbox live sales. Sony knows that MS owns the desktop and OS market. Sony will have chart their course carefully. Sony could make the Playstation OS more useful in other areas. Its like a game of chess.
Locking? Pretty sure you can play on the PS4 just fine. SONY Is not responsible for other platforms.