Even Microsoft themselves can't make a compelling case for the Xbox One as your primary gaming platform.
For the logical person I would think Gamepass is probably the best reason any company has given for gamers to get a console in a very long time. A lot of value there not found anywhere else.
I feel the opposite way, I feel like GamePass is squarely targeted at the Xbox gamer. Why, because essentially, you are paying for the ability to play Microsoft Studios games day one. The real value comes from the idea that their games are worth subscribing too. I feel like first you have to get people to say 'I want to play Gears and therefore I need an Xbox'. Then you need people to say, 'oh look I want to play Gears but it may be a better value to just subscribe to the pass'. I think the desire to play their games has to come first.
There are way more third party games in Gamepass than first party games. Although the Day 1 1st party games alone do make it worthwhile. Forza Horizon 4 by itself is worth the offering they have available right now which is a year for 60 dollars. But if you didn't previously own an Xbox you are looking at getting over 100 games for basically 5 dollars a month with the current deal. Can't see how anyone could argue with that as a gamer.
'Can't see how anyone could argue with that as a gamer.' That doesn't make sense because if that were the case everyone would be subscribed to PSNow. We don't have to ability or desire to play everything just because its there. You first have to see something that you want and older games aren't going to do it for most people. Because of this Microsoft sweetened the pot with its own NEW releases. Those new games are time and time again what we see reported as the reason people take the plunge with the trial and what not. So your Forza example and my Gears example are the same. I think we really agree where the starting point is.
@Eonjay: PSNOW doens't offer day 1 games. Or even good games for a long time. Plus they are streamed with bad latency and low resolution. GamePass is basically the perfect subscription platform right now. You are playing actual games. Good games. Games like Fallout 4, Gears 4, Halo 5, MGS5. No bs streaming or low resolution. Does it make sense now? I am talking about people who don't have a console here. This value is undeniable. If you were looking to get into this generation of gaming there is no value being offered anywhere else like this. But yes, the cherry on the top is the Day 1 exclusives. You will basically be playing the best racing game out there for 5 dollars this winter.
@maybe " Can't see how anyone could argue with that as a gamer" I can. just look at sea of thieves and state of decay. If gamespass take hold, situations like could be the norm. They'll release broken or unfinished games and bank on people saying "oh well, I'm only out $10 but can play all the other titles that have been patched" Then fix the new games at their leisure. EA is probably salivating at the thought. Not to mention, that after that first month is up, and you're about to cancel that sub, all of a sudden they announce expansion pack or patches that will address your concerns and get you to re-up. It seems like a good value on the surface but it can mean bad things for the industry long term.
I agree it depends on your taste in games. The kind of games I like are on PS4 and Switch mainly which aren't the types of games on Gamepass. The price is good, but, its actually cheaper for me to just buy the 1 or 2 games I want outright than to pay for a pass for a year and in the end I own the game.
Eww digital only. Atleast you can borrow the games. I like owning personally. Physical releases is where it's at
Someone stuck in the past here
@thrust Or some people don’t like being tackled on digital.
@UCForce What do you mean by "being tackled on digital"? If you mean that if you own the game you can play it forever, then I have some bad news, not all games will work in ten years time. The likes of Battlefield, CoD, Dark Souls, Fifa, Madden etc. all use some sort of online server, whether its being used to track stats or co-op/multiplayer, they will still require some sort of sign in to a server. If the games doesn't get a response from the server the game wont load (just like it doesn't with BF1) I agree that a huge amount of games don't require these sort of sign ins, but a lot still do.
Its because they announce the same exclusives. Halo, Gears, Forza, and Crackdown and really nothing new. They acquired 5 new studios which is great but how long will it take them to develop a new game? About Two years? Next gen starts in two years. Notice how Phil Spencer said they already started on the next gen Xbox which makes me believe they're throwing the white flag this generation and putting all their focus on next generation. Is it worth buying an Xbox one X at this point?
this is why im sayig microsoft didn't win there is no reason to buy an xbox one x.
MS are pushing the Win10 ecosystem , the XS, X1 and Win10PC are different entry points/options for customers - so long as you're a customer - regardless of platform they're happy. Sony are pushing PS4/PS4Pro/PSV/PSNOW as their ecosystem. Same with Nintendo with the Switch/Wii U/ 3DS/ Mobile. Services like 'Play Anywhere' / "Backwards Compatibility' (Xbox) or Crossbuy / Remote Play (PS) Club Nintendo (Nin) reward customers by adding perceived value to whatever they invest into the ecosystem making it more likely they'll stay a customer. If you think playing Xbox games on PC somehow harms MS, or somehow invalidates the game in question, it doesn't. If you play Gears 5 / Forza Horizon 4 on PC you are a customer of MS, and part of their ecosystem, and they are getting your money. The same applies to playing PS4 games on PC via PSNOW or Nintendo games on a Mobile etc. The gaming industry is changing, but 'some' people still define it by the way it 'used to be' not by the way it is right now. Those people are missing the point of what these companies are trying to do.
Ms is trying to change it. I personally don't like what they, they being ms is doing so I won't be a customer. I would absolutely hate not owning my games. Physical releases are far superior imo. When I want to play an old game I grab it off the shelf and pop it in. What happens in ms's future when I want to play an old game I better hope it's on there or I'm screwed. Again another reason for physical releases. There's room in gaming for digital and physical. Ms trying to kill physical gaming makes me hope they fail, fail really fast before they screw up gaming
Wii U is dead bro.
It gave me a reason to buy the next xbox so far. But that being said I have zero interest in xbox as I have a PC capable of everything.
That’s what I’ve been telling people. This conference appeals to people who are already in the Xbox ecosystem. There weren’t any new major IPs to grab in new gamers to their console
N4G, where the belief is that people can't possibly exist in the world who like to play Xbox Games.
Well.... it DOES seem unreal that people exist who want less games, exclusives, variety, quality, and praise a slow trickle of mediocrity, Forza/Gears/Halo, and laud the path of GaaS. Throw in the lies, spin, and constant PR, and it definitely seems unreal to some of us that people would like to play XBox.
Yes, how dare people enjoy the best console FPS (halo), one of the top third person cover shooters (gears), the best racing games (forza MS and Horizon), one if the best platforms (ori), creative games (sunset overdrive, Quantum Break), survival games (state of decay 2), games fun with friends (Sea of Thieves), also the best rental service (GamePass), features (crossplay, play anywhere)... How could anyone like those things.
@Jinger I know, right. That's what's I'm saying. It seems crazy right? Delusional even. I liked the sarcasm about "best", or "top" FPS, racer, etc., while listing about every game that XBox even has really, while subtly showing just how little there is on XBox and just how low it's fans have set the bar for game quality. That was a very nice touch, Jinger. Your whole persona, acting like XBox has games and that you actually "enjoy" them. CLASSIC! You should change your name from Jinger to Zinger, because you got jokes, man. "Games fun with friends (Sea if Thieves)" Lol now that one was quite the riot. Can't believe you sarcastically made up a game genre to fill the lack of even the simplest variety of genres found on any other consoles. Haha awesome. Could you imagine if someone actually believed the stuff you joke about? Man. It would be.... crazy, right?!
Game pass alone is dope and the exclusives are coming.. once their here what would be the excuse then? Xbox is already the best system for 3rd party games.. I love my PS4 but the upside on the Xbox 1X is pretty clear
You know those new games added to Game Pass don't stay in it and they're cycled out after a month or so. A show full of multi-plats and Game Pass really says Microsoft doesn't care if you buy the Xbox at all,they've already checked out long ago,sad fact.
This is why I rather buy Physical games than digital.
People just cant accept the fact that Microsoft owned E3 2018. https://i.imgur.com/UQBeuRl... Xbox E3 was the most anticipated conference the week leading into E3. https://i.imgur.com/DSsUcGf... Xbox4Life https://www.youtube.com/wat...
True is that Microsoft did better than Sony and others. But I don’t think they didn’t win E3 and neither other companies, is there any reason to buy Xbox One and Xbox One X ? Because those games are also on PC and you know that people will mostly buy those games on PC. When their next generation console is coming out, I don’t think people will buy it right away. Sure, it’s good thing to have a choice to buy PC or console or both, but it lost the purpose to buy Xbox. One more thing, do you have any to respect your competition ? Or you just want MS to become monopoly ?
I don't own a 56 inch OLED monitor that can do 4K and HDR and my PC is not near my TV. So that enough is reason to buy a Xbox One X. Also the fact the I only have to pay for game pass and get access to 1st party game that play on PC and Xbox One X is a plus. There is not one PC monitor that can do 4K and HDR that is worth buying below $1500, let alone the fact that a PC to run at that resolution will cost more than that. Yet another reason to buy a Xbox One X. Another reason would be the backwards compatibility. I'm not loyal to any company but I just see a lot of false tales being told on this site.
@Macosan Sure, PC have some problems and i’m console person. But even so it’s still lost purpose to buy Xbox One. I’m not big fan of digital gaming. I rather buy physical games. It’s not false take really. MS haven’t reveal to Xbox One hardware numbers since 2015.
They won E3 for 3 known predictable typical exclusives,Halo,Gears & Forza & a couple indies?? Where were the new unique AAA exclusives? Their show was decent due to all the multi-plats shown that folks will be able to play on all platforms.Their show had some bubbles & flair but they didn't show anything with substance that we never saw or heard of in the exclusive dept.
Was about to disagree with this statement but then I realised that the all the games I wanted during the presser were Multiplatform
Yeah, that’s right. Those games are also on PC and PS4. And MS games are also on PC. Like I said, MS did better than Sony and others, but they didn’t win E3 and neither these companies.
the only game i saw from MS that i would LOVE to play is ori. it looks so beautiful. but, i'm not going to buy the console for just that.
By now you are either in or out simple as that. I feel like this conference gave more people or made more people excited about the next Xbox and its future than present
Even in the future, those MS new games will be also on PC. It does lost that purpose to buy a console.
That's true for Xbox brand to become what it was during 360 days it needs to have exclusives which are only available on Xbox atleast for a while before coming to pc
MS abandoned Xbox 1 and X already, they shifted their focus to Next gen console,Remember xbox 360 Ms abandoned it even 2 to 3 year before its end of life cycle they didnt released any compelling exclusive for xbox360 for last 2 ,3 year.They are doing the same with Xbox 1 or x,dont jump in to sinking ship.
True, gonna take a while.for most games to come out and if you already have a good PC you really dont need one
Agreed! Nothing I seen at their conference gave me any incentive to buy an XBO though I enjoyed seeing the multi-plats being shown knowing I will play them on my Pro.
I also don't see a reason to buy the PS4 only because of 4 games: Last 2, Days, Ghost and Stranding, , everything else is not even worth mentioning. Spiderman will look phenomenal but this QTE fest is absolute no no to me..we all know how uninteresting these games are to play. 90% of all the games released are multi plats and for me native resolution is very importand...I own a nice 4K HDR TV and I want to squeeze out as much as possible..so games like new Fallout, RDR2, BF5 and so on I want to be sure these games will look notiable better. The only system seller was TLoU2..Ghost and Stranding (this game especially) did not impress me so much. Gears5 are Horiz4 looked much better than these 2 and I don't own a expensive PC to play them. Is also don't like how Sony deals with his fans by saying PS5 is at least 3 years away, when 4K TVs are so cheap..
Microsoft showed off some great games which are multiplatform and can be played on PC and other consoles
Double standards are in play here. When ever PC is brought up I see people posting the Steam data that most people only game at 1080P. Also nobody owns a PC capable of running at 4k 60fps because the graphics cards are too expensive. Now because Microsoft 1st party games are going to PC everyone is just going to play them on PC. Now we all have the money to buy an expensive PC that can do 4k. I actually happen to have one just not the 4k monitor. Waiting for a good one that does HDR. Just saying to keep it real. I have a PS4 to play the exclusive that I like but I also like my Xbox and PC.
I am lucky enough to own both an Xbox One X and a PS4 Pro.. the best of both world's. Yes, the PS4 currently has more exclusives, but the Xbox One X is proving to be my mainstay console for general releases.. reason why.. games that are Xbox One X Enhanced simply look better and play better, backwards compatability all the way back to the Original Xbox, with more titles being added all the time (Red Dead, Witcher 2, Fallout 3 look amazing), Gamepass, the fact I can play with proper mods on Skyrim and Fallout 4, I can play 4K movies, plus I can play exclusively Gears, Forza, Halo. I still use the PS4 Pro, just completed the ace God of War, but I just want the best looking games on my 55" TV.. and the One X delivers.
Exactly what I was trying to say. I have also been thinking about trading my PS4 in for a Pro. I just think Sony does a good job with getting their 1st party games to run on the base system. Plus I have a special edition Batman console that I don't want to get rid of. I do like the way Xbox is bringing the past games up to par with the current generation. I still have a lot of games that I never finished from the 360 days. Now if they would only bring back Mech Assault!
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