Paul from DJ writes "Today on the DJ Podcast episode 299 we talk about the recent E3 presentation from Sony. It certainly wasn’t the best of E3 presentations and honestly it tanked real bad? Find out why here."
Lol. It was a giant letdown.
At least Sony doesn't need a loud voice screaming 'Exclusive' to try to brain wash people into thinking that they've got content. Those were world premiers of other publishers work.
@AcidDvl The thing is sony should tell people what games are exclusive as people just assume everything's exclusive like multiple games in the past including nier automata. Lets be honest here if devil may cry 5 and shadows die twice were shown on sony's stage we would all think they were exclusives so Microsoft made a good choice getting them on their stage
@mark_parch That made no sense. Thank you for your input.
Microsoft just can't win no matter what they do is all. And I don't mean win as in "oh my god they won the conference" I just mean win as in they can't do anything right. I think that is one thing Sony should adopt. Yes people with a brain or who pay attention to Sony games know that the last of us is exclusive. Also Ghost, Death stranding, Spider-man, the from software VR game, and I'm assuming nioh 2 are exclusive as well. But the other 3 they showed are not. The only one that it mattered in front of is Control. That game is not exclusive but Sony doesn't let you know that before the trailer. I honestly feel they should have to tell people that to make it clear. But what you see as brainwashing I see as just being clear as to what the game they are showing is to their system.
@vallencer World premiers are not exclusives. Times exclusives are redundant, as they will be played on other platforms. Yet Microsoft had a voice screaming exclusive at both, which made the bulk of the conference. Makes no sense, unless you're trying to deceived people into believing that you've got more exclusive content than you actually have. Shady practice.
How is it shady? All you have to do is read haha. As far as saying exclusive before world premier all that's for is saying it's an exclusive world premier. There was absolutely nothing shady about what they did. People just want to shit on Microsoft. To each their own. I enjoyed their conference and sonys. I enjoyed sonys because their games are beautiful looking. I enjoyed Microsoft's because, well, they had games to show even if they were third party. Minus sonys weird let's move venues and have a talk show in between thing it was good.
I expected much more for sure. They hype up their big games and a long conference and don't deep dive into any? We see about four minutes of gameplay for each and don't learn much, still don't even know what death stranding is. The presentation was pretty stupid as well, the crowd has to switch rooms and people at home get to wait. There was really thirty-five or so poorly utilized minutes to this conference. Complacency, maybe, but they just set up nintendo's clean sweep.
lol... Still believe Nintendo had a 'clean sweep'? See where assumptions get you?
Where was Dreams???
Showing it like a game not a Sideshow gimmick
The biggest letdown of e3 this year was that pathetic nintendo direct. Now that was truly meh.
i agree that it was a poor conference however, i disagree that it tanked. The quality shown was unmatched by any other conference so far. This is a 1st in few years that Sony has gone down the quality over quantity route, i think we have been spoilt these last few years with Sony showing quality and quantity. They have also stated previously that announcements at PSX should be just as big as at E3, Which given the 6 month gap is perfect timing to have both at the height of relevance.
Them saying announcements at PSX would be as big as E3 doesn't mean much, considering nothing particularly big got announced..
May be, but they have previously announced TLOU2, Crash Bandicoot and Uncharted; The Lost Legacy in the 2016 conference alone (i think, if not it was close to that)
When you put a big pile of poop in front of such quality games, it's just not right. Something is not right. I mean is it about games or is it about the presentation of the conference? Some people saying that the music acts were bad and the physical setups we bad. To me that's just garbage. It seems like people just want talking points or flamebait or whatever. Maybe it wasn't there best conference but it was far from bad, I saw too many cool games for it to be bad.
It's clickbait. I'd say it worked.
The poop icon was more directed at the press conference not the games, but we wanted to stir some discussion on their event and happy its got people honestly engaged. We love Sony but in our opinion that event (aside from the games) tanked.
They had so many amazing games and focused on exclusives...but sure let's focus on the 5 minutes streamers had to wait because the press conference isn't for them but for the audience attending E3 and they did the weird two room thing.
It was almost 15 minutes, not five. EDIT: Just checked, was a fourteen minute intermission.
Some more info: Total conference length was 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 17 seconds, including the recap montage at the end. The intermission went from 17:20 to 30:38. 13 minutes and 18 seconds. The musical segment before The Last of Us 2 was about 3 minutes and 8 seconds. The musical segment before Ghosts of Tsushima was about 2 minutes and 8 seconds. The intermission was 18.9% of their total conference time. The musical segments made up 7.5% of their conference. That means 26.4%, over a quarter of the entire conference, was needless filler.
Either way, the point still stands these press conferences aren't for people streaming at home they are for the audience there at the show. It was weird and mishandled but if you are focusing on that as the sole reason they have a bad press conference when they had nothing but non-stop awesome game showing then you are probably a troll more than a gamer.
@PhantomS42, And it what way is an intermission to move to a new spot fun for the audience at the show? Also if it's for the audience there why does Sony show their press conference in theaters in the US?
That was ridiculous IMO
Stop being ridiculous. Literally the only thing wrong with it was the crappy interval. Other than that we saw gameplay for top tier games and there was lots to be excited about.
They delivered on the games which is what matters.
Because it had close to zero announcements. The format was really bad as well. It was one big mess.
Ps5 is like around the corner, probably in 2 to 3 years. New first party games will probably release on the ps5, so it would be weird to announce a new big exclusive now. They already have 4 big exclusives coming out in the next 2 years and they showed some amazing gameplay of those titles. I mean what big announcements did microsoft had if you take away all the multiplatform titles? Exactly...
Exclusives announced: 1. Halo Infinite 2. Forza Horizon 3. Session 4. Tunic 5. Battletoads 6. Gears of War 5 Sony? - Nioh 2
Oh boy, I sure can't wait to play Halo 13, Forza Horizon 9 and Gears of War 32. Session is not an exclusive, it's published by Crea-ture Studios. Tunic is not an exclusive, it's published by Finji. And they aren't even AAA. Sony showed ~10 minute gameplay demos ffs. Microsoft was just trailers of games that aren't even theirs.
Dirty Lmao, Nioh 2 on It's own will be better than all those games.
The salt is real. Now you have to be the publisher to count a game as an exclusive. LMFAO. Yakuza is not an exlclusive then? Neither is Persona? Final Fantasy was NEVER exclusive to any console then. Residen Evil neither. But yeah, go ahead, tell me which exclusive games Sony did announce. Thank you.
Dirty: That's not really a great list...
Agree. I watch E3 for announcements. Sony had what.....two? And one was a VR game.
you can't have a conference that tanks when it's filled with game of the year contenders...
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, regardless how ridiculous they are. Sony did a good a job showcasing their first party games......period. If anyone had a problem with that, it just pure foolishness, plus they had the same surprise announcements such as RE 2 and Nioh 2 just like MS had..... It's always confusing around this time, because these sites go out of their way to compare MS and Sony's conferences to each other to convince the masses that MS's conference is always better. Just like Geoff K. stated, MS's conference was incredible for the game industry as a whole, but when you look at what MS has to offer to the consumer it was just ok. -They showed a CGI trailer for the next Halo game -Crackdown looked terrible -Forza Horizon -Three Gears of War games (Although Gears 5 looks awesome to me) -A battletoads image -And five studios that are going to be making something for the next Xbox system Now just using plain common sense, what did MS really do to convince the consumer to invest in the MS platform this generation? Or better yet, this year?
I fell asleep!
Get a Ritalin prescription
Outside the unusual transition after the gameplay reveal for The Last of Us II, Sony's presser was spectacular. I wouldn't dare say it tanked--far from it in fact.
It was a tank.... a slow moving North Korean tank..
If you were asleep for the whole conference how do you know it tanked? I thought it was a great conference. Perennial game of the year titles shown.
With all of the cool stuff they've already put out, it's just a matter of time before they wind down. Most of the really hotly awaited stuff is probably going to be for PS5.
Do not mix quality of the format with quality of the games they showed. Games were amazing, format was rather poor.
Well, I’m seeing it this way: regardless of how you feel about the presentation, it did exactly what it needed to: show off Sony’s upcoming projects and show their devotion to expanding upon developing real exclusives. The deep dives of the big 4 were amazing, and that’s all they really needed. Sony has long since won this gen by all official metrics. Those games are going to sell a lot of copies and push a lot of hardware; not too many people who have interests in them are going to say: “yeah these games look epic, but I remember Sony’s E3 2018 presser not being that good, so I can’t buy... lol
The guy brings a good point.. Sony left arrogant... that’s exactly how they get when they get too far ahead of the competition, ps3 anyone?!
You wish, but you're wrong. Sony isn't M$, Sony does things their own way and thank god for that. I think Sony left proud of their studios, not arrogant.
Is $ony m$ now?
@Zeke68 You have a really short memory. Remember when Sony told people to get a second job so they could buy a PS3? Nah that's not being arrogant, that's Sony just being Sony. https://www.engadget.com/20...
@Shaggy Almost 50 yr so memory might be winding down year after year but no, I have no problem to remember what happended 12 years ago, but much water have passed under many bridges since then, so what about it ? :) So you mean you are EXACTLY the same person as you were (spelling?) in 2006 ? I have moved on, Sony seem to have moved on a giant leap forward, but you seem stuck in another decade, that can't be no fun way to live your life. The only ones here that seem arrogant to me is Sony-haters like you Shaggy, that's how I see it. ;) My point is, Sony did a great laid back show with a few minor faults. First they started the show with the Last Of Us 2 event that was aimed for the fans on site, but was broadcasted so we, the homeviewers saw that too, followed but the intermission talk right before the "real" showcase began with Ghost Of Tshusima. That was something that made the event seem to paus for a while but I don't think they intended that for us watching over the internet. I guess they sort that out until next tradeshow. Some think the musical parts were lacking but I enjoyed it all. I guess I'm old enough to take it as it comes and don't judge every single second with major for / against bias. Some things in life you just need to relax and enjoy - and i did just that with Sonys conference. M$ on the other hand was more like a bad copy of Sonys E3 shows a few years earlier. I guess I like the fact that Sony dare to take new ways to reach their fans and not like the other company "same old" over and over and over again.. But you are free to think otherwise of course :)
How was Sony arrogant when they just showed games?! Did we see the same conference?
I must say I was somewhat disappointed in TLOU2 and no its not because of Druckmann's SJW agenda but in general. Death Stranding and Spider Man on the other hand looked f*#^@ amazing!
Lol! Sjw.. If you are disappointed on what was shown of tlou2, something's seriously wrong with you.
Actually nothing wrong with me and I am disappointed firstly because Joel doesnt even get a mention other than "your old man" secondly the gameplay was scripted, thirdly again the gameplay seems to have been taken directly from U4 especially the stealth mechanics. I love U4 but I was hoping TLOU2 would bring something different.
I feel the complete opposite here. I never played tlou and tlou2 blew me away enough to want to go back and play the first one. I thought Death Stranding was still a cryptic mess which told us nothing. Sure there's a ton of walking, and a baby strapped to your chest? And shadow monsters. Literally still no real information about what the game is. All that said, Spiderman was amazing. All of that gameplay was looking phenomenal and I'm totally ready for it.
I was disappointed with the death stranding demo, ghosts of tsushima looked incredible, I hope we don't have to wait too long for it
Sonys problem here was the format they went with. It felt disjointed and ended abruptley. However, if we put that aside and only focuses on the games, it was great.
Oh God the people here are ridiculous. SONY gave me what I wanted games and the games are the games Iam most interested in. Ultimately MS show was better paced but ultimately what should matter to gamers is teh games and then it comes down to personal tastes.
People want E3 anouncements ,Playstation Experience ,Paris Games week ,TGS ...surely not everything has to be announced in one event while leaving the other half of the year dry noh!! ,that's more like the style of some other company....
Why does everyone have to compare conferences? Sony said upfront that their main focus was their "big four", and both Microsoft and Sony showed lots of multiplats. As a PlayStation gamer there were plenty of games that got me hyped in both conferences. Aside from the known titles I was really surprised by Nioh 2, Dying Light 2, Resident Evil 2 and Cyberpunk 2077. Everything else was just kind of a cherry on top for me.
I had to go to bed but is it safe to safe this was a repeat of last years E3? Whatever happened to Wild?
MS E3 is so successful that they have convinced the people that ms magically increased the exclusive line up despite only showing halo forza and gears.
+ the other 14 exclusives you conveniently missed out
@prettygoodgamer CONSOLE exclusive then if it matters that much
Microsoft won E3 because Crackdown 3 nearing its silver jubilee E3 showing,Hope it achive Golden Jubilee Showing atleast
I just don't see how you can be negative after seeing: 12 minutes presentation of The Last of Us 9 minutes presentation of Ghost of Tsushima 8 minutes presentation of Death Stranding 7 minutes presentation of Spiderman The announcement of Control (new Remedy game) and NIOH 2. And an amazing trailer for Resident Evil 2 remake with a release date early next year. Yeah they screwed up big time with that stupid break after The Last of Us 2 and deserve to get shit for that but that doesn't negate the awesomeness of the presentation.
Exactly this !!
just gaming journalists being gaming journalists here....nothing to see
LOL it didn't "tank", they showed off incredible games and they did what they said they were going to do, it was just the pacing and presentation that was a let down. E3 is supposed to be about the games and theres no argument they showed the best ones.
Either way, Sony still have a line up that's almost unmatchable for the next two years. Spiderman, fist of the north star still to relelase this year after already releasing god of war and shadow of the collosus. Tlou, day's gone, ghost of tsushima in 2019. They have the next two years more than covered. Then death stranding in 2020
The games on display were utterly fantastic. That said the conference and the venue that they were shown in was a utter shit show. Wow look a tent that looks like the game setting. Wow some music. Wow some token flute music. That was by far the worst press conference from Sony since the infamous RIIIIIIIIDGE Racer - Giant enemy crab crap. Show one game...take an intermission??? Microsoft's show was far far more professional, polished, and direct. The Sony conference was a spctacular FAIL. The commentary was so so bad.....so bad. Save that CRAP for after the actual conference. WE MISS YOU ANDREW HOUSE!!! PLEASE COME BACK!!! Sony appears it is now being run by morons.