If what Todd Howard just said on the E3 stage is true, than many of the players in West Virginia will not be able to enjoy Fallout 76.
Kind of ironic...which is why always online games are not good If you can really "play this game solo" like many developers who make these kind of games say then do a mode which takes you offline and treats it as a single player game.
I've decided to give this a chance. From what I understand it's still a quest game with a storyline but you can take the journey on with friends or play it alone if you want. Kind of like Dark Souls or even "I hate saying it" but Destiny, yes it's an online world but it doesn't mean the main focus has to be team frag matches. I personally did enjoy making my own settlements in Fallout 4 with all the fences, neon lights, decorations, and there were times I thought... wouldn't it be so cool if you could share this with other players or defend it from other people. I did see how having online in Fallout might be a fun thing. I don't know if this will end up being just an online spinoff but I don't think that's the plan right now, sounds like they are building a huge world with new engine and going all out. I think they are serious about this game and maybe taking the franchise in a new direction if it works out. I don't think even Bethesda knows for sure yet, they are just trying something new and I'm willing to give it a chance. I mean they could make another super long DLC of Fallout 4 and call it Fallout: West Virginia or Fallout 5 and we would all think it's an all new mainline Fallout title, and I would be okay with that because I love Fallout, but we have had plenty of DLC already and the same formula is getting just a bit stale. So, I'm willing to give this a chance and keep an open mind.
Apparently no human NPCs. They'll all be other players.
Agree. If we give them enough grief maybe they will see single player gamers ain't messing around. Give us a offline mode damn it
I'm going to start a private session when I play.
There is no reason to believe that is even possible. I'm guessing it won't be.
Wrong. I just watched a new interview with Todd Howard and he says you can. Seriously, I've always been able to have a private session in MP games. Do you want to hate this game so bad that you'll just stuff make up?
The new in thing is to hate all the big devs/publishers, yet people still buy their games and bitch about them.
I'm just not going to even play it.
Well, everyone can enjoy their principals while I enjoy games and not care.
Who said I hated it? I’m buying it for sure. I just said I did not expect there to be an option to play in a private game. Jesus, jump to conclusions much? And I wasn’t “making stuff up”, I was just taking a guess based on what little I’ve seen so far. I even said in my post “I’m guessing”. lol
Bethesda needs to show a lot more of this game if they expect people to pre order. I have lost all excitement.
I'm so excited. It's basically fallout 4s multiplayer that wasn't half assed and tacked on..can't wait
Not the West Virginians who own and play on current gen machines it won't. And now they don't make online games because of this? Doesn't TESO already alienate West Virginians? It's not like Bethesda wrote the history of the vaults and thereby decided where a vault is set. Having 70% online doesn't mean that ~30% are comprised of people who play console games. Those people also aren't using social media or the like either.
Fallout 76 is a pass from me at this point. Not into the base building Rust ect games.
todd howard literally said at least 5 times that you can disable the online
Incorrect, the quote is in the article. My team and I watched through it all and have reached out for further clarification.
youtu.be/PdYtulRRfDU interview from Todd himself confirming no offline play. even in the Bethesda conference, he never said you can "disable online" ??where did you even hear that, he literally never even said the words "disable" or "offline" im very curious how you heard these words that were not even said and you heard them 5 times??
That's just your mind playing tricks on you because you & the rest of us wish it were true.
at this point almost ever major publisher has some sort of Online shared-world game. Fallout 76 The Division Anthem Destiny Sea of Thieves just off the dome.
funny enough i hate absolutely every one of those games thats actually released already :/ lol :( sad times as a single player fallout fan i suppose ... just strange they went this route with a franchise that is soooo interlocked with single player but w/e not all games are made for everyone so i guess i'll just miss this stop even tho it saddens me there will be a fallout game i dont own :/
Eventually, someone will really nail this "genre" of sorts and it will be batshit crazy awesome. Anthem or Division 2 could be the ones to do it. I really hope Anthem is well-crafted, but we shall see in February and beyond.
If you dont like it, dont buy it. They arent transitioning from their single player epics. They announced it the absolute best possibke way they could have. They wanted to branch out at least once for fallout fans thay want this. Cant wait
Exactly. I am looking forward to this. Bethesda deliver great experiences. They will continue to deliver amazing SP experiences but I love the fact that they are experimenting with the franchises. It seems like the "offline only" crowd get the loudest. Pretty sure that's 0.009 percent of the people that play games.
Well considering its the first game that is online only, I would say they have a lot more proving to do.
Even though you haven't played it yet.
Well no one has and as such no one knows very much except that there are no npc's except robots and monster enemies.
Yeah, but the new Fallout 5 they could have been working on will be that much more of a wait because they're working on this. That's what we're sad about.
I feel that! Plenty more to play in the mean time though. And this just gives Fallout sequels more time to breathe. Its nice to take a break with the franchises.
I'm seeing alot of us that don't want this at all or atleast want an offline mode. I'll try it but I'm a sucker for fallout. I'll buy it used though, so they don't see a dime. I can't go along with this online only stuff
Good idea. Did the same with MA: Andromeda
youre all seriously afraid of them stepping outside of the box on this? why not let them flex their creative powers, this game looks really interesting!
Honestly, it's because I'm pissed because this means we won't get a traditional fallout until after ES6...2022?
You received the first Fallout (1997), Then Fallout 2 (1998), Then Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel (2001), Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel (2004), Then Fallout 3 (2008), Then Fallout: New Vegas (2010), Then Fallout 4 (2015), and now Fallout 76 (2018) You guys think your suppose to get everything when you want it. SMH
So you're pissed because this means "you" won't get what "you want". Sorry but you're not the only one in this universe.
Fallout 4 was awful; I hope they do shelf a traditional one until they're able to use the same engine that the new Elder Scrolls will most likely be using.
Fallout has its genre so ya I expect it to remain focused on the world rather than multiplayer. IT's like taking the multiplayer out of Halo...would halo fans like that?
By this respect taking fallout from an isometric P&C, tactic style game to FPS you wouldn't play fallout anyways because "Fallout has its genre..."
I started playing at fallout 3... If I was a fan of the originals id be pissed too if i didnt like the new format....
Mkis - it is still focused on their world. Wth does that even mean? Just because they added multiplayer (for the millions who asked for it!) doesnt mean its not focused on their world.
There is nothing interesting about having random sh!theads raid your base or drop a nuke on you for lols.
I don't see why anyone didn't expect this to be an online game. With ESO it was only a matter of time for Fallout to follow, not to mention they already had an iteration of Fallout this generation with 4, and with the name sort of figured that it wasn't an expansion of 4. This type of game will do enough even in West Virginia that it will be fine.
This game isn't for the people of west virginia. it's for me.
I lived most of my life near Chicago so I always had good Internet... I recently moved to rural Georgia and the Internet is a joke. My Max download speed is like 120kb/s and that is the best Internet I can possibly get. I wish many of these devs would realize that plenty of places in America have access to inferior net. I can play online games but I have to turn off the WiFi(so no other devices are on my network).
A 50gb game takes a week to download!! And I also have a one X... The enhanced versions of the games are massive... Lol let's just say I've gotten used to not having everything at my fingertips anymore
Oh, they realize it; They just don't care about having you as a consumer. The truth is, online microtransactions pull in more money in the gaming industry (yes, we're talking mobile as well, as that's where most of the money is made) than anything else. Also, when you're always connected, you can gather TONS of useful data from players. You guys probably don't think about how these days, even how you play a game, when you play it, who you're playing with, that data is recorded, studied, bought and sold to be better able to sell you more shit. Just like Netflix/Hulu, these AAA companies don't really care if rural people won't be able to access their material at all, because their business models predict they'll make more money pushing everything towards constant connectivity. If you don't like this soulless corporate approach to gaming, don't support the companies that you know practice it.
Yeah I realize it Sirk...like I said I can play games online...the worst part about these always online games is they release updates every week which are a massive pain in the ass for people with poor internet. I love the Fallout series but with 76 they seem to really be pushing playing with others etc. I was initially excited when I saw this revealed yesterday but then came to the realization that a game like that will come with 5+gb updates weekly and I will probably feel forced to play in a group(like Destiny etc) so I am probably going to have to pass.
I wish many gamers understood that not every game is for them. It is like you all dont remember playing PC back in the day when half the gamers couldnt play new games because their pcs didnt meet min specs.
A really great, frank and heartfelt article, written by a true and passionate gamer. It is sad and ironic that someone who lives in West Virginia more than likely will not be able to experience his much beloved home turf, recreated in a gaming world he is clearly proud of, because internet access is so poor. It's not only in the rural areas, there are so many places in the USA and the rest of the world that cannot access viable internet access. Its so easy and thoughtless for 'Mr I'm Alright Jack' to say 'tough luck', because he lives in the city, has the cash, has good internet. Fallout is one of the most popular gaming IP's, millions of fans worldwide, amazing amounts of merchandise, dedicated modsters giving their all to honour and advance the Fallout legacy. To alienate a fairly large proportion of ones loyal fanbase, seems to me to be a pretty thoughtless act to me. Its those loyal fans that have given their hard earned cash to Bethesda, putting hundreds of hours of their own precious time into making Fallout and Bethesda the icons they are today. Its not just those who cannot access the internet, its those who maybe cannot afford the cost of a costly internet contract, or the subscription fees that Microsoft and Sony demand to play online. And there are also those people who are sick of online gaming; in terms of the cheating, abuse.. the general mindlessness of having other players ruin your game just for kicks. I hope that Todd Howard listens to these fans who feel let down, and to go that extra mile and allow offline play. Far Cry 5 was a fairly expansive open world, but Ubisoft managed to satisfy both the online and offline community. Yes, innovation and something different is a good thing, but only if its for 'all' of your loyal players.
Wow, thank you for the kind words. I really just wanted to highlight the terrible irony with this article and hope that Bethesda at the least consider it. Either way, I think modders will be able to make it work offline on PC, at least eventually.
"Fallout 76 is entirely online." Nooooooooooo! Please no!!!!!
The game will be where I live. No complaints here. I always have 200mbps speed anyway. But they are right. Alot of towns here just don't have it. If gamers really wanted to see what the game maybe could entail or atleast the atmosphere look up West Virginia history. All I can say as if they pass on doing something with the Mothman, they really missed on what could have been a good mark. Look it up. Mothman. It's very mysterious. It entails aliens, real Men In Black. Not joking sereously. A town that really got put through the whim on its aftermath. A bridge collapsing. I'm not joking. When people claim they saw the Mothman eventually weird Men in Black came to the town and questioned people. No one can conform they were FBI or government US officials. The weirdest part about these Men in Black (they actually wore all black suits, yep just like the movie) .....when they talked to people they never took off their sunglasses off and when they actual spoke.....their mouths never moved. Like a constant straight face, showing teeth, but no mouth movement. Even weirder......their voice was not normal....... If Bethesda can't run with that, they missed out. Documentary on Netflix at one time called In the Eyes of the Mothman, not there now though. Really good.
They made a good movie about the Mothman with Richard Gere around 2000 or so!
I likes it. It wasn't bad. It was creepy but the documentary straight scares me. For real.
Mothman will definitely be in there. I also hope to see the Green Monster (Braxton county?) and I'm excited that the Grafton monster is in there. They definitely had a lot to work with.
I have no major issues with always online, but what I don't want to happen is for this to become the norm.
Keep the sensationalist articles rolling in.
Lol. Now I know that a game has to cater to the location where it takes place. I guess they should stop making games about wars in 3rd world countries then. How about those games set in space? There's no electricity on Mars. Doom should not exist!
No PvE mode either lol. You done fked up, Bugtheda!
Hope the new net neutrality rules don't murder this game
It a horrible idea to have nukes that players can lanuch at each other. What the hell are they thinking.
It may be online but I will play it on my own. I played The Division and MMOs on by myself so I am cool with that
Always online, no offline single player = no buy for me....very unlike you Bethesda, I am VERY disappointed...
Just remember This game has an limited game time. As in, one day the server is going to be turned off and from then you either have a piece of useless plastic or a digital download that’s unusable Collectors stay away
You and I are limited time, so no one should love you, enjoy you while you last, waste a dollar on you, or do anything because we all know one day... You will leave us. Seriously... Why cant people just enjoy something while it exists. Fucking LIVE a little!
The history of online games is what worries me in the long run. Multiplayer games should consider adding bots when applicable and such. How many games will we lose in 40 years from this generation alone?
lol everyone has been always online but for some reason ms was hated for it with xbox one. If your still playing offline because of choice then gaming doesnt need you lol. I dont even play any game unless im online and its not because i actually want to play online for co op or competitivlyl. We can all agree we will all enjoy fallout 76(cash grab) regardless.
Yes lets hold our creative vision back because some people cant enjoy it. That makes sense. Also lets not make a game about killing Nazis because they cant sell it in some countries. Do people actually listen to themselves? "If we cant play it they shouldn't make it." is the worst reason to hold someone back from creating their vision.
I need to play a demo first. Not very convincing.