“V for Victory.” On Wednesday this week at 1pm PT (9pm BST) Battlefield V was revealed to the world live from London, sticking with a historic setting and going back to its WW2 roots after the success of its WW1 epic: Battlefield 1
This is probably the most well-written gaming article I've read in 2018.
Appreciate the kind words ClanPsi1!
My only complaint about the article is the overused trope of specifying the current year to justify your argument.
I'm Canadian. My prime minister is WAY worse. That was pretty much his entire campaign for half a year. -_-
Yes! Thank you for being a voice of reason
I live to serve 😎
Yuuuuppp this article pretty well summed up the worries i had from seeing the trailer. The games were never super realistic in practice, but it made solid attempts, which is what attracted me to the series in the first place. the over-the-top action with the ultra quirky characters was just too much. I'm even willing to bet that woman would have been much better received if she wasn't equipped with an automail arm and hair bright as the fires of London, throwing the realism of the game out of wack.
I always liked the balance that Battlefield 1 held up; was never perfect, but it lived up to WW1 namesake imo.
Oh look at that a well written article that gets into the REAL issues of the game and not using the typical “bu bu but people are crying over just a woman” bullshit argument
You know I really don't understand that argument because women did fight in WW2 on both sides of the spectrum, were they as prevalent as men, of course not, but they did nonetheless. The fact that people really got their panties in a bunch over that don't have inkling of knowledge on history clearly.
I feel like that was just websites taking select youtube comments, of all things, and running with it for easy clicks. I think more people just hate the overall look and feel the trailer gave off.
It was never about the women, it was. About the unrealistic cosmetics, laughable action, claims of inclusion when in fact it was all a ruse to justify their new fortnite like micro transactions. I'm pretty 50/50 about this new battlefield, on one side we get free content and dlcs with the removal of premium which is amazing because it will give this game longevity without splitting the community. On the other end they have to milk us somehow with these ridiculous outlandish cosmetics to entice the kids and casuals to spend extra cash. Time will tell how far dice will push these cosmetics, I feel they'll try to get away with as much as possible ignoring any historical accuracy with the excuse that they want to be inclusive and make the game fun.
Actually women werent on the front line other than to be slaughtered. The Germans would send women into the line of fire and when they tried to turn back or run away they would be shot, the Russians had similar practices, a lot of women died and many by the hands of their own people, it was sick really. Women on the other side of the spectrum were auxiliaries with main duties being in the medical tents and in the case of Japan some women auxiliaries would be tasked to do sexual "favours" for the men before battle. The British did not allow women in battle and neither did the Americans. My biggest gripe with the woman in trailer is not just that she is a woman but because she is so overpowered that she seems to be more efficient than the men while having a prosthetic arm and wielding a WW2 automatic weapon, which has some of the worst recoil ever, as if she is holding an air rifle.
Beaches of Normandy, 150 000 men, 1 woman.
It cannot be ignored how essential a role women played in both world wars i imagine, but in support roles. Without them the men who died in battle might have died in vein, but that’s the thing. Compared to men, the sacrifice made by the very small (if any) amount of sisters on the frontline is not enough to justify the potentially overproportionate screentime and spotlight preference they get in our contemporary media. Every man on the field was just as important as those women, but i’m sorry DICE, 95%+ of army casualties... were men.
"You know I really don't understand that argument because women did fight in WW2 on both sides of the spectrum" Aside from Russian side of things, women NEVER served on the front-line as foot-soldiers. Especially not a woman with a prosthetic arm (that did not even exist at the time) wielding a full auto machine gun with it... Battlefield series was never historically accurate but there was always a certain balanced-level of realism put into the gameplay.
the down votes show why a person like Trump can be elected President, ignorance at its finest
Women have never been in the front line in combat units in any modern war only in extreme exceptions like the battle of Stalingrad, no one with a brain has said women didn't participate during WW2 or that they where not in harms way but the depiction of the trailer is very misleading. I personally could give zero F's if women are in the game and that's coming from a Marine veteran that doesn't even care if women are in combat units as long as they meet the standards. I say let them go find out what's like maybe then they will stop bitching and moaning about inequality when they realize what they where asking for was hell.
@Inzo: That's just.... wow. Can you (and the 11 people who somehow agree with your fiction prose) please go to your local library to take out a WW2 history book and read it? Or just read a Wikipedia article ffs.
Ok looks like Dice have gone for an alternative history of WW2 Facebook promo for Battlefield https://ibb.co/hr97qy "forget what you learnt in history class" "WW2 as you have never seen it before"
Its a disgrace and an insult to those who served in WW2.
So do you think it's an insult that war video games trivialise the real harrowing events and suffering of soilders and civilians of both genders into entertainment for your boredom? Or is it just an insult because a cgi woman was depicted to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?
@DexSun If anything they are modern day reminders of the facts about war. You can’t be reminded if you can’t recognise the topic, pal. Best of all, they turn war into harmless fun, and spark interest in people to learn, especially about history, but it’d be pretty sad if history proves what you like is a lie, wouldn’t it? Honesty is the best policy.
@DexSun I am talking about the tag line son. Yeah lets tell the 6 million Jews and the hundreds of thousands of men that lost their lives in WW2 that you should forget what you learned in history class.
@ Inzo, and haydenlake I'm certainly not going to forget what I know about wars in history because I played a game that didn't portray that moment with 100% accuracy. I didnt suddenly believe that Hitler was shot in the testicle and killed because I played sniper elite. Nobody buys these games for a history lesson, they want to shoot nazis in single player and tea bag in multiplayer. If however a game sparks your interest in learning more about the back drop or people involved then you should be smart enough to look for other sources and not expect that game to give you that information with complete accuracy. The games we play based on historical events are simply a back drop, if dice/ea have to tweek that event slightly for the purpose of more player option while still incorporating real locations, vehicles, weapons linked to that back drop I'm all for it.
If they wanted to do alt history then I don't know why they didn't go all out. Add in some steampunk elements or alt history weapons, just go full on Wolfenstein with it. It would be better than some half-assed attempt at alt history that is solely designed to push cosmetic microtransactions.
@Liqu1d People are losing there s**t because of a woman character with a prosthetic arm was placed in a trailer therefore somehow disrespecting those who fought in ww2 and is changing history, imagine now what those people would say if they did a completely alt ww2 setting. At least the cosmetics are optional, and perhaps unlockable through game play. A season pass or map packs however segregate players. And is it any wonder why its now like this with how much money games like overwatch and fortnight make through cosmetic purchases. I do hope there is a way to turn off cosmetics in multiplayer for those that want a more authentic experience with the look of characters, that should keep everyone happy.
fucc are you ignorant https://www.pinterest.ca/pi...
I'm perfectly okay with alternate history. I just really prefer when they make it clear that's their intent.
Where were these women and minorities in Battlefield 1942? Dice are only being inclusive since BF1 as they needed to market a game to the minorities and women. I'd wish they were honest and just say it.
They did...that's the sad thing http://n4g.com/news/2172901... "We Wanted To Empower Player Choice, Diversity & Inclusion"
Yeah I'm fine with, and understand, them marketing to a broader audience by sacrificing some reality and history for the sake of sales, as long as they don't claim it to be historically accurate. I think BFV can best be seen as a new BF game inspired by WW2, but with it's own twist and packaging, a separate fiction.
It can be described as EA trying to GLOM on to the Fortnite transactional model...along with a heaping helping of diversity and inclusion to make the 2.3% of those gamers feel welcomed. Screw the other 97.7% of paying customers if they don't like it. At DICE we strive for reality, which is why we want to reflect the ridiculous SJW agenda into our gaming realities. If you want to have a purple haired face painted warrior with a pink tutu....it is in the game as EA used to so boldly proclaim.
Looks like there's still hope for games journalism after all
That is appreciated more than you know mate!
I'm pretty sure he's the only gaming writer today worthy of the title "journalist."
for battlefield VI just put both men and women on the cover... save us all some headaches about reading complaints on either side, its a game, it borrows from history, its not a documentary....
https://youtu.be/_i9L0rYKKg... This video articulates our exact feeling on how dice are trying to fool us into accepting their outlandish cosmetic micro transactions.
This game is gonna end up being the best battlefield, watch!
Well thought out fair, and logically written artticle!
Thanks T2X! 😊
I can’t remember what it was that first attracted me to Battlefield with BF3, but if i had to guess it was the sheer amount of difference in it’s believability over CoD which i was playing at the time. I remember getting the game for my birthday in 2012 and it was the sole game i played until 6 months later, and even then i still played on 360, PS3 and a little on PC regularly with various teams i became a part of. Battlefield 3 was so groundbreaking in it’s immersiveness for a lot of people (and i imagine because they were only used to CoD until 3), to the point where milsim teams had formed (but i’m sure there were plenty before BF3) and everyone could take it so seriously that you could pretty much have a “virtual bootcamp lite” experience. Yes i know bootcamp is no game, but in fact some teams had month long bootcamps on private servers to polish up your gameplay and get the idea that this is for real hammered into your head, and i tell you what, getting really serious about the game gave me some of my best performance in gaming i’ve ever had, and in turn, the most fun. I don’t mean to brag, but when you’re milsim team vs milsim team and you’re able to hold off efficient players on your own for several minutes whilst waiting for backup then you know something good is coming from letting yourself get swepped up in the atmosphere. So that’s why when i see the trailer for BFV, it makes me a little sad too, because i see a great franchise heading in the direction of killing what it had going for it, and i imagine it had that going for it for a long time before i showed up.
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The author is entirely missing the core points around what is making people upset. The public is sick of being PREACHED to from TV, Movies, Music, and now gaming. The prominence of females (Just for he sake of placing females) into lead roles is getting a bit obvious, and tiring. I for one am not objecting to having females in gaming, tv, or movies. I DO object to the insertion of said females to simply cow tow to SJW virtue signaling crap. Enough already. Star Wars is being DESTROYED by this. Now we have this happening in gaming as well. Placing females into the lead spot JUST to place them in the lead spot is all a bit troubling. I am sure if we searched we could find examples of gay soldiers, transvestite soldiers etc...is that next? Pushing that agenda as well? Enough already. War HAS and WILL ALWAYS be driven by MEN. If you do not accept this, or cannot accept this, you are simply not dealing with reality. Men and Women are created differently. This is a REALITY. This is not fiction. Just because there are some that cannot accept their birth form, or the reality (and in some cases limitations) does not mean that we need to project a false reality. SJW has no place in gaming. Enough with the diversity and inclusion that is KILLING gaming. Edit: almost forgot to mention the other issue with this game...the trailer SUCKED. They are trying to insert the $$$ format for Fortnite into Battelfield. It is blatantly obvious and frankly it is a total miss. Frotnite is a cartoon styled game and can get away with ridiculous skins and styles. Battlefield is NOT. If this is the direction that EA and DICE are going...I am out.
That's a little harsh. I think Single Japanese Women have every right to be into gaming. SJCs - Social Justice C*nts - on the other hand....
forget about having a woman on the cover/in the game (historically accurate by the way) but i just can't wrap my head around a white Jesus with blue eyes. but hey, the game is more important to get accurate i guess.
I can't wrap my head around what point you are trying to make.
which is my point
What is your point? Something to do with religion?
alternative history. he wasn't white with blue eyes https://www.google.com/sear... and perhaps that distinction has had a bigger effect on civilization, except when it comes to women serving on the front lines, well that's a fact https://www.google.com/sear... and soldiers/units did customize https://www.google.com/sear... this is what the people in the region look like when Jesus would have been born https://www.google.com/sear... it's funny to read the bull$ht from angry men talking about alternative facts when t comes to a video game that actually has it's facts straight, how dumb is that? https://www.reddit.com/r/ga...
Why are you adding a religious argument to a WW2 video game argument? My disagreement with this game is not what they added but the reasons. I didn't care until Dice stated the reasons they were added.
"Why are you adding a religious argument to a WW2 video game argument?" Because it's pertinent to the discussion in that history has shown that if a segment of society is allowed to rewrite history "women didn't fight in ww2 and shouldn't be in the game or on the cover" https://www.google.com/sear... or " Jesus was white with blue eyes" and the people of his time weren't white. we live with the lies of people with a true agenda..... to dominate and control. this $ht is easy enough to research for any person that wishes to learn, but the ignorant will always be, ignorant. they added the truth because t's never been added before.... is that a good enough reason?
Historical accuracy was not the reason they added disabled British females.
how do you know? evidence? “The Unwomanly Face of War” began in the late 1970s, after she read a newspaper article about a female accountant retiring from a Minsk auto factory. The article mentioned that the accountant had been a sniper — the one with 75 kills. Alexievich sought her out; one interview led to hundreds. Soviet publishers at first rejected the book as overly naturalistic and insufficiently admiring of the Communist Party. Perestroika was more receptive. Two million copies were printed in 1985..... https://www.denverpost.com/...
political correctness is ruining the gaming industry now....but common sense will win at the end.
Too many liberals for common sense to win lol.
no, you're just dumb please respond so people can see me punk you.
You sure do seem aggressive for a liberal.
@drpepperdude: because I'm not a Liberal I'm more of a centrist. all i am doing s stating facts.
@Rachel_Alucard: your interpretation.
@sampsonon Please you know full well there's at least a dozen other different images saying the same message. Nobody cares what a centrist says since you can't hold strong convictions of what you're saying. Always ready to flip flop when the topic goes left or right.
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