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David Cage is overrated

Despite what Sony may want you to think, David Cage's stories are patball to Kojima's or Avellon's champion games, and he is by no means a master storyteller.

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Fantomex27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

David Cage games are great for the tech, but IMO not for the gameplay or story. I am more convinced Kojima's Death Stranding will nail those two departments.

AspiringProGenji27d ago

His games deliver in their respective kind of gameplay. I will never understand why people want to give WD shit for their gameplay yet they are okay Telltale Games and yet QD games have way more features.

As for the story they are a hit (Heavy rain) or miss (Beyond). Detroit seems to be a bit of both and apparently better than both games

And it is not like David Cage is hold on a pedestal by anyone for this guy to write an article abor DC being “overrated.” The manis just doing his job and he did it just fine with detroit. Take that as you will

getbacktogaming27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Well said! They are not for everyone though but truly exceptionnal in their own genre. To be honest I could think of a bunch of games I could call overated such as Fortnite because I dislike that style of game yet I would not call it overated because I have a brain and understand other people have different tastes.

Gaming_1st27d ago

"Despite what Sony may want you to think,"

This first quote tells a lot about the site and the journalist. Your agenda is irony at it's finest.

First off where did you get, despite what Sony wants you to think? I haven't seen or been persuaded by Sony to think one way or another. I have developed my opinion about him through his games.

Secondly, the irony is. When you say "despite what Sony wants you to think". But then you write a article about David Cage trashing him and telling what a bad story teller he is. So shouldn't it be also "despite what this amateur writer wants you to think"

Aceman1827d ago

Game journalism at its finest here lol.

Skull52127d ago

I’d never even heard the name until this article so I wouldn’t call him over rated. If you want king of over rated look to further than Kojima, guy couldn’t write a competent story to save his life.

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FlameBaitGod27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Salty liberals, I remember the Far Cry 5 review from gamespot, killing and blowing people up was fun, but one Obama joke ? thats fking insensitive and out of line ... LOL!! they are a joke

NXFather27d ago

Why so much damage taken. These games are niche.

Venox200827d ago

i personally loved Beyond game more than Heavy rain..i liked story more too..its just those timelines were weird..thankfully as far as i know they gave an option to play timelines in order..
plus I loved Fahrenheit/indigo prophecy a lot

Imalwaysright27d ago

Because TT writers are infinetely better than David Cage is and I don't understand how you can consider Heavy Rain, a game filled with plotholes a hit in the story department. Heavy Rain's story is mediocre at best.

AspiringProGenji27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I meant gameplay here and how some people seem not to have a problem with TT but want to talk shit about QD games. And not every TT game has been a hit anyways.

Plotholes don't necessarily make a story bad. It did have plotholes, but nothing you can't figure out yourself

Army_of_Darkness26d ago

Detroit: Become human is Hot right now, which is clearly the reason why this author is talking BS out of his mouth right now.

Imalwaysright26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Agree not every TT game is a hit but Walking Dead 1st season and Wolf Among Us are by far better than anything David Cage has ever done aside from Detroit because I didn't play it and I don't know how good or bad it is.

"Plotholes don't necessarily make a story bad" but they do in Heavy Rain's case because there are way too many that were cheap, made no sense and were just there to try to trick us.

"It did have plotholes, but nothing you can't figure out yourself"

No, for example I still don't know why the father (don't remember his name) woke up in the middle of nowhere with origami figures on his hand. Can you explain this to me or was this just another cheap trick?

morganfell26d ago

@Aceman18,

Yeah some journalism. They get a special place:

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AspiringProGenji26d ago

Ok champ! Whether Tt is better than QD or not, You have to consider that TT has already a lot of material since every game they have done is licenced, while QD games are all theirs. They are all good in their own right but QD games are superior in wvweytother department and that’s nothing againts TT but QD games are AAA. That is what I mean

Imalwaysright26d ago

TT is an indie studio. They don't have a company like Sony funding their games but for an indie studio to get the licenses they got is a testament to their quality. Yes QD games are impressive tech wise but these games are all about their story and David Cage is a mediocre writer.

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naruga27d ago

i dont like David cage either ...the games are far to overrated and almost are no "real" games, ...Sony should nt have paid exclusivity for its lame games

sizeofyou27d ago

Yet they have an audience.
Choice is key. It will do well and sell to it's target. And if you don't like, don't buy...

Miss_Vixen27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Fair enough, but just because you don't like the games doesn't mean they're overrated or lame.

nRicosS27d ago

Ur opinion far to overated

sprinterboy27d ago

Every game isn't just made for you, it's OK to like every genre of games, I don't like anime games or jrpg games but I don't go shitting on them.

kneon27d ago

His games aren't over rated, they are over criticised. Many other games have absolute shit stories but they get a pass just because they come from some other developer.

CDzNutts27d ago

Telltale makes too much money off the genre for no one else to do the same.

Clearly people buy these games. lol.

JesusBuiltmyHotrod27d ago

I don't like a thing...so no one should..what are you 5 years old?

bigmalky27d ago

So you don't want Sony games to be exclusive, but you say they're overrated?

Something tells me you don't have first hand experience to rate them, and are a wee bit sore that your system of choice is lacking in 'overrated' exclusives.

Next gen, buy Playstation and you might not get so upset.

DialgaMarine27d ago

It’s a genre dude, and it’s not a very saturated one either. There’s plenty of room in the industry for games like Detroit, and clearly there’s a large enough audience out there for them to justify the costs.

sampsonon27d ago

yes you're right, we want less variety when it comes to games.

Redlife2g26d ago

Trolling at its finest... Why don't you go back to your xbox and play......... Um.... Uh..... Halo 1 with a 4k patch.

OrangePowerz26d ago

Can't speak for other people but I like story driven adventure games and the Quantic Dream games fall into that category.

CDzNutts24d ago

I'm afraid you don't know how "making money" works. LMAO.

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Rimeskeem27d ago

The whole point of the games is for the story. It's literally an interactive story. LIKE BOI

trooper_27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I disagree.

David Cage's games are very interesting. I played Heavy Rain and Beyond and it never ceases to amaze me how the gameplay tells a good story.

And also, what did you mean by 'despite what sony thinks'? Sony doesn't tell me what games I should enjoy. I can see the effort they put into their games and that's what leads me to play them.

Crap Journalism 101 at it's finest.

BehindTheRows27d ago

You clearly haven't played Detroit.

robleroy27d ago

Everywone that think that TT writers are better than David cage should ask themself why TT writers write stories about already very well known characters and backstories...
BECAUSE ITS 1000 TIMES MORE EASIER!!!
Just pay for the license, give a twist in the backstory.. and sign on a couple of cartonists..

No Way26d ago

I know people will hate my reply, but I am in no way intrigued or excited for Kojimas game; albeit, that's because I have no idea what it is or what it will be and I have see no gameplay on the title - E3 may change that. But, so far - I really enjoy Detroit. Kara is my favorite, ^_^

babadivad26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I may get killed for this but Kojima is an over rated story teller. The story in most MGS games are so damn silly. Death Standing seems to be interesting. Very interesting in fact. I am not sure how Kojima is got the reputation as pinnacle story teller in Video games.

David Cage is OK. I like his stories. Not the best, but who ever said he was? He is properly rated.

OrangePowerz26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

While the stories of his games aren't always the best or consistent, overall I find them interesting. They are by no means perfect, as example the end game in Fahrenheit just goes so far out that it just doesn't fit for me with the rest of the game. Detroit fixed a lot of things in that regard that they got wrong in the past and it shows that they learned lessons from their previous games. As for the gameplay, they are adventure games that focus on story. I take that over the constant open world games we get now that have paper thin "story" where actions have no impact at all.

In regards to Kojima. I love most of his games but story is not always his strongest point. Some of the MGS stuff is just over the top convoluted to a degree where you need a guide to know what happened and the last game was a massive let down in the story department. Very good gameplay mechanics for an action game, but the story was useless and not worthy of being part of the franchise.

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gamerzero27d ago

That's your opinion, I am loving Detroit as are many other people.

Eonjay27d ago

Also Sony never told me what to think about Cage. Everything I know about him comes from people who have played his games.

Aenea27d ago

... and from people who have never played his games.

Aura754127d ago

There has been a lot of unwarranted complaints like that Polygon article. Like with Far Cry 5, Polygon complained that Detroit does not push "their" kind of politics enough. I find that to be rather petty. Yes, David Cage and Quantic Dreams have occasionally expressed their political views and Detroit does not shy away from politics. However, that does not mean that Detroit is trying to push a political narrative considering that it is up to the player to make his/her own choices.

I also wonder if the sexual harassment allegations against Quantic Dream played a role. AFAIK, 2 of the 3 cases filed against the studio were dropped. However, that didn't stop people (especially ResetERA) from "listening and believing" and assumed guilt before innocence.

NecrumOddBoy27d ago

Indigo Prophecy and Heavy Rain were really cool story games. Beyond was a bust, but after an hour with Detroit, I truly have to say he nailed it. This game is dark and heart wrenching. After 1st Kara scene, I have to pause the game and go hug my kid.

trooper_27d ago

...I better have tissues handy then because I'm getting the game soon.

Segata27d ago

lol office bugs. yes I played it.

mkis00727d ago

Right? why cant people just accept this genre is not one they enjoy and move on. I hate moba and online fps, you dont see me dragging down what others like.

NecrumOddBoy27d ago

Agreed. Most have this game an 8-9.5 Who liked it.

But the few who didn't, gave it a 4 and trashed it bad.

Choose your own adventure games aren't for everyone, but this is a good one. A really good one.

PLAYWATCH7627d ago

This statement encompasses how I feel about it. I don't like certain types of games either, so I try not to judge games from those genres because I have a tendency to dislike those games to begin with. I actually like diversity in the games I play. I play a lot of Battlefield games but also love games like Persona 5 and Detroit.

mkis00727d ago

Furthermore why do reviewers review genres they dont care for? How can you rate how good a game is if you dont like any games in the genre? Thats like me reviewing all racing games below a 7 because I dont find them fun.

Realms27d ago

You pretty much summed it up but some people seek attention because it drives traffic to their sites no matter what the topic. In the case of games journalism it's easy to see why some websites drum up drama whether it's warranted or not. In many cases it's more about a particular persons world view more so than if the game was playable, enjoyable, thought provoking or good for that matter. That is why reviews are pointless to me unless I trust the reviewers track record of being able to be objective and fair. Not just be emotional and infuse his political views or any other kind views that don't pertain to the actual game play.

Markusb3326d ago

Because of hacks, shills and the crying left wing usually

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Larrysweet26d ago

Its ao good huh i love love love it cant wait to replay

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FallenAngel198427d ago

I seriously wish David Cage could at least produce a game like we saw the tech demo The Dark Sorceror at E3 2013.

Detroit: Become Human seems to be based on that Kara tech demo, so at least there’s a smidgen of hope.

PhantomS4227d ago

I would love The Dark Sorcerer as a game, just a very goofy, silly game.

SolidGear327d ago

Oh yeah.. that thing was hilarious :3

Jaypi0327d ago

I guess you haven't played the game yet, Kara is in the game, and her story is actually one of the best of the multiple stories told in the game.

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Nyxus27d ago

Ok, thanks for the info.

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