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Blasphemy: I enjoy Breath of the Wild more because it lacks dungeons

by James Wynne:
"In the lead up to the release of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, I went back and played all of the 3D Zelda titles I hadn’t actually completed: Majora’s Mask, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword. Though I wasn’t a fan of how the games became slower to start with each successive iteration’s expansion of boring tutorials, I enjoyed them all very much. I’d say Majora’s Mask was the best, followed by Skyward Sword, and then Twilight Princess (If that order triggers you, hold onto your butts, because this isn’t the most controversial claim I’m going to make)."

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narsaku201d ago

I never liked the dungeons in old Zelda games either. You just run around doing some puzzles, lighting some fires, throwing a boomerang at a switch or draining water.

Not much fun to be had for me personally.

LOVE BOTW btw. I'm glad they're leaving the nostalgia fanatics behind and moving the game forward with more engaging and interesting stuff.

G3ng4r201d ago

Never cared quite as much for puzzles as pure exploration either but certain old dungeons had something special, like the creepy atmosphere of the forest and shadow temples in oot.

BiggerBoss201d ago

ASKING ALL NINTENDO GUYS THIS:

I'm a new player to Nintendo (been a PlayStation guy since the original).

Is the Switch worth the entry price for Zelda and Mario Odyssey? I know they're great games, but are they worth $200+?

Tatanga200d ago (Edited 200d ago )

@biggerboos for zelda yes, for Mario no (i don t like odyssey).
For Mario it s better to start with 64 or galaxy.

For switch, start with botw and Mario rabbids, 2 great games complémentary. It worth the price with them.

G3ng4r200d ago

I'm the opposite seeing as I don't like puzzles as much as other mario/zelda elements. Mario was unbridled joy for me, easily my favorite mario since bros 3. Botw took a lot more investment but it grew on me over the course of many hours as I grew more addicted to powering up link and destroying everything that once destroyed me. Little discoveries spread all over the map went a long way.

NecrumOddBoy200d ago

Bigger Boss.

For me Mario Oddysee is a perfect mix between every Mario game as a definitive platform title. It gets stale post game but it's my favorite Mario next to Galaxy/64.

BOTW, for me was not the Zelda game I wanted. It lacked everything a Zelda game should have. Outside of the freedom of climbing, it was a very repetitive and weak title to me.

Tatanga200d ago (Edited 200d ago )

For me, odyssey is just a flat and boring exploration game, i am at the beginning of the game but i'm bored. It's just sluggish. Maybe it become better after but i can't.
Some people will like, as i like zelda without old endless dungeons.

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-Foxtrot201d ago

It lacks more then dungeons lets be honest

forkymental201d ago

Interesting characters and an interesting story.

-Foxtrot201d ago

A world full of more life

More enemy variety, not just reskins

Bigger towns and villages that feel alive

Memorable characters like past games

Story is so lacklustre

Better side quests

Variety of weapons that don’t break

Epic dungeons

Great boss fights

You know...the majority of things past Zelda games had which they had or did better.

PlebeGamer201d ago

@forkymental
While I don't feel the story was told in a good way, the story that was there was pretty good. The characters too, they just needed to be incorporated better, maybe letting us play the flashbacks and interact with the champions themselves instead of watching a cutscene when we found them, or reading through diaries.

*Story Spoilers Ahead*

The story of a Zelda that can't manifest her powers because she never got a chance to train with her mother, and thus turns to science to overcome fate is way more interesting than any other Zelda story to me. Especially when her plan is the very cause of Hyrule's downfall when Ganon possesses all of the ancient tech and turns it on the realm.

Travis3708201d ago (Edited 201d ago )

-Story
-Content
-Character development
-Enemy variety
- Side quests that actually reward you unlike building Terry town for a shield that you have to buy anyway.
- A more lively world that reacts to what's going on
- Music
- Better Bosses/ Better final Boss
- Partners instead of a Wolf that dies in 2-3 hits
- Better voice acting/More voice acting
- Mini Games
-Fishing
-Underwater levels
And finally Shrines that aren't copy/paste.

Obelisk92200d ago

I have to agree with Foxtrot, while the game was artistically well done, I really missed the feeling of the story. The main quest is so short and almost meaningless.
Also, while the main dungeons are outstanding (yes, I totally loved the colossus) it definitely misses more dungeons that feel INSIDE the map.
Shrines aren't enough. They feel like secret levels but they are, in fact, 90% of the game.

DJK1NG_Gaming200d ago (Edited 200d ago )

@-Foxtrot
A world full of more life
- So a Apocalypse Setting need to be full of life? Are you serious?
More enemy variety, not just reskins
- Welcome to Zelda
Bigger towns and villages that feel alive
- It's an Apocalypse SETTING. Many towns were destroyed. People fled were killed on the way because of the monster Calamity Ganon summons.
Memorable characters like past games
- If you can't remember the champions, Impa, Paya or the new faces in those villages that relates to the Champions or Kass then you probably didn't play the game longer than 30 hours.
Story is so lacklustre
- No it was not. A story can't be deep when there barely anyone left alive during the time the Champion and Link were defeated other than Impa, Mipha's Father, Purah, The Great Deku Tree and Robbie. These four were the only people left alive other than Zelda, King of Hyrule and Champion who informed Link about what happened. Which is why the player has the option of finding all the memories and reading up on all the diary found in the game. To recall the past 100 years ago.
Better side quests
- debatable
Variety of weapons that don’t break
- Weapons respawns. Don't want em to break. Store them at your house.
Epic dungeons
- Doesn't need it. Beside. Hyrule Castle itself was epic enough.
Great boss fights
- Debatable. You are fighting against Ganon enraged spirit not Ganon himself.

Clearly you didn't play the game long enough to even understand it.

Prince_TFK200d ago

@djking

I do agree with what you said. People are just try to find things to make this game look bad. You know I could find ton of things that I don’t like about the new GOW but that doesn’t mean they are all valid criticism.

There is a reason why BOTW won GOTY.

-Foxtrot199d ago

@DJK1NG_Gaming

" So a Apocalypse Setting need to be full of life? Are you serious?"

Urm...Fallout does it quite well.

"Welcome to Zelda"

Not really a counter argument...

" It's an Apocalypse SETTING. Many towns were destroyed. People fled were killed on the way because of the monster Calamity Ganon summons"

Back to Fallout, this time New Vegas....the Vegas strip says it all.

" If you can't remember the champions, Impa, Paya or the new faces in those villages that relates to the Champions or Kass then you probably didn't play the game longer than 30 hours"

Not as memorable as past characters

"No it was not. A story can't be deep when there barely anyone left alive during the time the Champion and Link were defeated other than Impa, Mipha's Father, Purah, The Great Deku Tree and Robbie."

Good lord another "It's the end of the world" excuse...Jesus. Do you not think at this stage this is what Nintendo wanted? Maybe the reason they chose an apocalyptic setting because they knew they could brush it off as "well it is the end of the world" so people like you would use it as the games defence. Mission accomplished eh?

"Debatable"

Debatable side quests? Urm...Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Witcher, Deus Ex etc. All had better side quests, not in terms of content but in the way they played out.

" Weapons respawns. Don't want em to break. Store them at your house"

Yes lets store weapons and not use them so they don't break EVEN THOUGH they are weapons and should be used. Great point /s

"Doesn't need it. Beside. Hyrule Castle itself was epic enough"

You're not even trying now...really? It dosen't have to be? You're basically saying now "It's fine it was shit compared to past games". COME ON

"Debatable. You are fighting against Ganon enraged spirit not Ganon himself"

Oh my God. Literally the defence of this game is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. It's a 7 at most and you are defending it so much to push it to a 10. Why? Because it's Zelda. One good boss fight unlike past games where we had a range of epic ones. Oh and your excuse is because "bu bu but it was a spirit"...good lord

DJK1NG_Gaming199d ago (Edited 199d ago )

@-Foxtrot
Zelda is not Fallout. Stop comparing the two.
You clearly didn't play Breath of the Wild for what it is.

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DivineAssault 200d ago

I agree.. This game is like the zelda 2 of 3d games.. Good but different.. I prefer the old layout but having an open world with so many things to do was awesome.. They need to find a good balance between the two so they wont alienate fans.. What i really dont want to see go is the handheld entries like Link between worlds.. Switch is both handheld/console so i hope it doesnt mean the smaller games are gone

Neonridr200d ago (Edited 200d ago )

personal opinion. Plenty enjoyed it as is.

-Foxtrot200d ago

They’d enjoy it if it was shit let’s be honest

Power of the Main line Zelda brand

Septic200d ago

I must have been blinded by that power of main line Zelda brand then 😑

Benjaminkno200d ago

@-Foxtrot

I spoke to a friend of mine that was more of a Sony fan and he said he enjoyed BotW more than Zero Dawn, which surprised me, but he’s a gamer not a fanboy that trolls.

Neonridr199d ago

@Foxtrot - I love how a game can be complete garbage but us Nintendo fans will just eat it up. Do you honestly think there was some huge conspiracy and that all the accolades, awards and high scores was just a ruse?

Grow up. Just because it wasn't on your console of choice doesn't mean it's not a good game.

-Foxtrot199d ago

@Benjaminkno

1) What's Sony got to do with this?

2) What's Horizon Zero Dawn got to do with this?

3) Why you trying to start Fanboy shit?

4) Why you using the typical "If you don't like this then you are a troll/fanboy" argument...it's sad

Typical responses

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Fantomex201d ago

Dungeons are a staple of the LoZ franchise. I would've liked this game more if it had epic dungeons on the scale of OoT, but more complicated, more mysterious, and more dangerous than OoT.

A Zelda without dungeons is like a Mario game without castles, a Metroid game without caves, and an Animal Crossing game without a town.

PlebeGamer201d ago

There have been Mario games without castles, and a current Animal Crossing without a town though...

If they have to bring back dungeons in the next Zelda game, I want them to be more like BotW's Hyrule Castle and less like any other temple/dungeon the rest of the series has to offer. They've given us the freedom from linearity many have craved since open world's became a thing, and created the most interactive world to ever grace a video game, they shouldn't take us out of the world to bog us down with lame old puzzles and item hunting.

Fantomex201d ago

Is this new Animal Crossing game a spin off? Okay then...

"They've given us the freedom from linearity many have craved since open world's became a thing, and created the most interactive world to ever grace a video game, they shouldn't take us out of the world to bog us down with lame old puzzles and item hunting."

Yeah, there are many Zelda fans that loved the traditional setup. That's literally how the franchise has so many fans... A Link to the Past was known for it's dungeons. Ocarina of Time was known for how it's dungeons blew ALttP out of the water. Ocarina of Time was also really interactive and lively for it's time. BotW feels like a massive, empty, dead world by contrast.

BotW was good no doubt, but the game was missing...a lot.

Benjaminkno200d ago

I think the dungeons are there, they’re just broken up into smaller pieces.
It’s just a little different of a formula, but the Shrines plus the beasts plus Ganon’s castle = dungeons

Nyxus201d ago

I did kind of miss them in BOTW if I'm being honest.

AspiringProGenji201d ago

The shrines were mini dungeons and I enjoyed most of them. The 4 main dungeons were just too short. Not bad but not as great as the Forest temple in ooT

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