Rejecting hardware updates in favour of a full generational refresh, Sony implies a PS4 successor will come in 2021 - but how big a leap can that offer?
This doesn't mean squat ! Sony is known for supporting their consoles well into the start of the next generation. They've done it with every console they've released.
Ps2 was supported for over 10 years and ps3 was released 6 years after the ps2. Ps4 will likely be out by end of next year imo
You think the ps5 will be out 2019? ..After they intentionally artifically extended the generation with the Pro???
Pro isn't a new generation... Also what's the point in waiting for 2021? They're likely not getting 4nm by then so we wouldn't be getting much more of a jump. Waiting just means it will be more outdated by time it comes out. Say 4nm comes out in 2022/2023... Well we just screwed any chance of it being cutting edge by releasing it in 2021. They should release it next year. So we can ride out the tech on the edge like the old days.
Exactly, 7nm already went into mass production, there's already CPU tech that will provide a huge generational shift up from Jaguar in current gen consoles. GPU tech will be ready early next year for the power requirements of a new console and overall cost of parts will be at a pretty optimal level for a system to be assembled. There's really nothing from a technical, economic or even software perspective that prevents PS5 from launching in Holiday 2019.
The only benefit in a next gen console is the hardware. If ou just upgrade the PS4 (like they did) it, the PS4 can last a lot longer.
@narsaku With the Pro? Lol. They've extended the life of this generation, single handedly, with amazing exclusive content.
What makes you think you know more about the PS5 release than Sony?
2020 is far more important a year than 19 or 21. I bet my children on it.
Yeah don't give them the one they want. 2020. I agree 2019 or 2021.
Ps5 2020. They announced there'll be a drop in profits March 21 when they submit returns for the PREVIOUS year. April 2020 to March 2021. Ps5 will release fall 2020 100%. In time for the holidays. I've been saying this for months. The last of us will launch around April 2019 they'll get a year of profits in before releasing goty/remaster with ps5 at launch.
What you mean ps4 will be out end of Next year??? and you wonder why you have 30 disagrees. PS5 you mean end of 2020
Sony supports it's systems for about 8 years with a 2 year overlap. This correlation means every 6 years there is a new platform and the new system usually suffers from big exclusives for about 2 years. The timing is showing once again Sony being fully committed again right to the end but the PS5 will likely have average titles upon release. This is why I expect a PS5 in 2019 or at the very latest 2020.
Well, I could have sworn I read an article where they said they planned to support it until 2021. Now, a two year overlap would be 2019. Yes, here it is: http://www.pushsquare.com/n... I wonder if we will see something like the Pro, where games will support the PS4 and the PS5 for a period of time? The point of creating a platform is to get people to buy game on it. Sony is heading full speed to 100 million consoles sold and I doubt that they want to let that base reset. I am saying PS5 may be coming faster than we realize.
if sony shows there 2020 line up at E3, it pretty much means no launch in 2019 if they show nothing significant at e3 and PlayStation experience 2020 is the launch date if they show a significant 2020 line up, 2021 is the launch date
Jack Tretton believed Gen 8 would be eight years long 5 years ago: https://www.nowgamer.com/ps... But yes, diminishing returns is definitely a big key factor now. I would argue now more so than ever before in gaming. It seems like it was only yesterday when 32 bits seemed like a crazy idea or 128 bit even. I can only hope that with these diminishing returns that graphics start to take a backseat to gameplay and gaming gets more in touch with its roots.
I'd be very okay with that. I don't care about graphics or resolution nearly as much as the modern gamer. Many of my favorite games that I still play are old, but great games. I frequent a barcade in my town and indulge in the classics. Shinobi III is still a game I beat 2-3 times a year. This generation, Persona 5 and Gravity Rush 2 don't appear to push the PS4 like other games, but they're my favorite games in a long time. Gameplay and frame rate over graphics and resolution any day.
"Gameplay and frame rate over graphics and resolution any day. " I remember when people made fun of the Xbone... 900p vs 1080p. I'm glad you warriors changed your stance.
@Deep-throat I remember Phil saying "play games not resolution". Then he went full resolution and forgot about games.
@Deep-throat the ps4 has resolution, gameplay, and exclusives.
@Deep throat " I remember when people made fun of the Xbone... 900p vs 1080p. I'm glad you warriors changed your stance." You mean like all the Xbox customers that suggested graphics weren't a big deal because of the good games? Now there are no games and graphics are important again?! Yeah flip flopping more than a politician.
Deep-Throat, Yeah, you got me. My narrative has totally changed. Good thing n4g has a credible watchdog like you, or I'd have gotten away with my hypocrisy! On a more serious note, I don't really get what you get out of trolling. Have you considered taking up knitting?
I call it lol! Keep telling my friends family and co workers that Playstation 5 is more than likely to come out 2021. Guys just sit back an relax. PS4 has a record to beat(PS2). We still need Last of Us 2.
Sony said they weren't focusing on hardware for the next 3 years and there's no hardware announcements this year. I can't see it coming before 2020, but 2021 is certainly a possibility. People just want new shiny stuff all the time.
How does a "hint" "confirm" anything?
Thats good.. I want those announced games on PS4
I predict psV to be revealed this year with a release next year. They can cut PS4 down to 199 and keep the psV as an ultra premium console
Confirmed no hardware announcements this year and little to no hardware focus in the next three years. You may want to revise your predictions in light of those facts.
I'm predicting early 2021 at the earliest for the PS5, there's just too many games on the pipeline for it to come out sooner. Plus, if the PS5 is backward compatible, it's in Sony's best interests to have the biggest PS4 library possible before release, especially if they make patches to upscale them for PS5. And an 8 year lifespan between console releases is pretty much par for the course for Sony, no surprises there.
These people must be living under a rock. Sony supports their consoles 9-10+ years after they initially launch. Ps life cycles are between 6-7 years... we all know why it went longer with the ps3 gen so dont act dumb. Now children, whats 2013+6 or 7... Before the ps4 pro came there were plenty of people saying that was fake as well... honestly i cant wait to see tho looks on ppls faces when its announced e3 2019
Are u saying it will ship holiday 19?
Get over it tech is slowing down, the longer generations last the better. And i would rather see a huge jump in PS5 and to be honest loving PS4 to much to care.
Next gen can last plenty, I want a 4k ps5 by 2020 hopefully. I can wait another year for 2021 if I have to, but 2020 is the sweet spot for me. I’d be willing to pick it up next year though, but another year wouldn’t hurt due to games we know about can fill in before then fine and gives hardware an extra year to grow. Not unhappy with my PS4 by any means, but in 1-2 years is when clock starts to tick a bit louder.
People keep touting 7nm cpu mass production, but those Ryzen cpus aren't coming out till next year and probably the same for the new AMD GPUs. Nvidia's GPUs will probably come this year, plus ram is still way over priced. I really can't see a ps5 before 2020 without it being too weak or expensive.
I say we’ll see the PS5 release the fall of next year. Not only would that make the Pro a literal mid gen system but Microsoft coming out with a new system has to be taken into consideration as well...and you can bet your ass they’re chomping at the bit for a generation reset.
For what though, so they can milk doing nonthing on the exclusives games lack.
Sony has two options : A) pull a 360 and launch a base PS5 next year and update it after the xbx2 with a ps5 pro or B) wait til 2020+ and launch simultaneously with Microsoft their PS5. And hope that Microsoft doesn't buyup AMD and denies Sony any new apu or doubles the fee for them. It's literally the only way for Microsoft to shit on Sony, .. forcing Sony to use a different manufacturer. Because software wise nothing gonna change ... Phil Spencer will still be accusing Sony of 💰 FF14 and ppl. are still buying halo 6/7/8 even though they made it pretty clear, they didn't like the last two. Microsoft simply has no chance at all. Dunno where this sudden empathy towards them is coming from .. they never delivered IMHO. A good PC alternative, without the PC games ... Only Sony can beat Sony ...
I say once the ps4 crosses the 100 million mark and all (or most) the major 1st partys launch that we know about its time for the ps5. Got and ds prob will be ps5 cross launch exclusives like botw. These rumors always start up to 2 years before launch. By this fall we could have concrete proof ps5 dev kits exist.
$399 is key, so, PS5 will be out when AMD can offer a 7nm APU with 10 to 15 TF at max 200W TDP. It will probably be in 2020, perhaps Nov 2019.
I’m totally okay with that. PS5 can come when it’s good and ready. No need for a $500 overpriced Netflix box that has no games.
Apparently people on the internet know more about Sony's future plans than Sony
Especially when they already made announcements about E3 and the outlook for the next few years of the company. Only briefly, but enough to make reasonable predictions, most people here are not making reasonable predictions.
i dont know how many times i have to say this: PS5 is coming late 2020. Not tomorrow, not next week, not 2019, and not 2021.
Yet the announcement is confirmed for 2021
No, its not. Where are you seeing that it's "confirmed" for 2021?
A quote from the head of Playstation regarding the future of the brand is all over the internet. He said Sony will focus on PS4 for 3 years then leap into the future in 2021
Stefan, no where was the launch of PS5 confirmed for 2021. He's hinting at the fact that PS4 will continue to get software support into the future, but Sony is not going to wait until 2021 to release PS5. No way.
I am willing to bet that the PS5 will arrive Holiday 2019 or Holiday 2020. As much as Sony is used to marching to its own drumbeat, the fact is that the PS4 is where it is this gen because Sony announced the console ahead of the next Xbox and also ensured this time it met the market needs on price, usability, resale of games, and having the kind of exclusives that get people to jump on to the platform. In fact, the situation this gen can easily set up a similar situation for the next one. PS4 came in 2013 and an upgrade, the PS4 PRO, came out in 2016. Microsoft came out with the initial Xbox One also in 2013, and then reeling from one adverse situation to another, all of its own making, came out with the One S in 2016, and finally a whole new console masquerading as an upgrade just over 6 months ago in Noveember 2017. It cannot have been cheap, the last 5 years - one cock-up after another, two new consoles and one upgrade, very few exclusives or console sales (in comparision to PS4) to bolster the number of gamers on the platform. If Sony were to come out with the PS5 in 2019, just 2 years after the arrival of the Xbox One X, and given it is likely to be more powerful then the current "most powerful console in the world", Microsoft would have to either keep pace or simply accept that in the first one or two years Sony will simply blow the Xbox X out with the PS5 before Microsoft could come out with a new console. By the time this happens, the number of consoles Sony will have sold of the PS5, coupled with the number of exclusives it will have churned out, will likely repeat the same situation Microsoft now finds itself in. QED.
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