There's a lot of speculation that the next generation of consoles might ship disc-less. But what could an all-digital platform mean for gamers, especially PlayStation fans? CheatCC deep dives to find out.
wouldn't happen as there is talks of the ps5 being BC
I dont think BC really depends on the nature of physical media. Especially considering the games dont play from the disc. Those who buy digital versions of games would just be able to play them on the PS5 without issue. Those who buy physical... that could pose a challenge. Unless Sony adopts the process that a game previously installed from physical media, and is detected on your profile, is valid and then lets you play that version on the PS5. They toyed around with something like that in JP with the PSP Go and those who had UMD games. Not much transpired from it but it showed promise that someone with a physical copy was able to validate it and get the digital version for the Go.
Why would Sony show Microsoft how to share with a disc only to not allow dics? How stupid do you think they are? The own mockery would slap them in the face! They saw what happened to Microsoft with the DRM. This would be a extension of it. Because you would be dependant on being online to even buy a game! Plus they would alienate retailers (Which sales the machines and dics) only Microsoft of the big three would be so greedy and controlling to try this.
On another note this sounds like an article that MICROSOFT kept running to test the waters and see how many fanboys would back them. I'm sure MICROSOFT is behind this one. Wanting people to think it is Sony. Microsoft has not learned SH!T up to their same tricks!
Would't happen because Sony doesn't want a repeat of the PSPGo, or the back lash that MS got at the start of this gen. Sony still makes a lot of money off physical sales as they sell world wide where not everyone has great internet. There may be a discless option, but I can't see it being the only choice. @Darth I can't see a game being made indefinitely available through digital if it's on ones profile. It'd be too easy to just rent games and stock up before selling off your console which you would never have to start again, and it's a bit of a chore to have to revalidate using the old hardware again one day....and kind of defeats the purpose of BC to require a person keep their old hardware. MS was trying to do this with their physical DRM, and it didn't go over so well. However, it's possible to code the discs individually so they could deactivate from one account should they be played in another system. however, I'm unaware that the PS4 discs support this feature. Even if it does, it hasn't been implemented, and starting it for PS4 games when the PS5 comes out,or is about to come out would just be bad PR, or extremely confusing to the layman.
Right ransack there are many millions of people without more than 25gig of data a month even if they pay 79 dollars because no satellite or cable in many rural areas.
What i was alluding to was more about the ability for the games to be played on the PS5. If you load a bunch of digital games on an external drive then i would expect those games to be playable on a PS5 if that were the case. Doing a license transfer should be pretty painless and validation shouldnt be that difficult. Anyone who has ever downloaded something will have a record of that in their profile history. Some games can become de-listed, this is true but the idea is sound as far as being able to retrieve what is still available. I am able to go into my profile history and dl any PS1 games i have purchased over the years and play them on my PS3, PSP or PSVita so it should work the same for games people have dl on their PS4 (provided the PS5 plays PS4 games)
No unless they want the backlash Microsoft got when they suggested it with the X1.
The X1 wasn't marketed as being digital only. It was always online. It was still going to launch with a disc drive.
Point is, best not to get backlash like ms period.
MS never suggested digital only, online only is not the same thing. And it seems to many people think that buying digital means you need an online connection which is absolutely not true. You guy's need to get your facts straight.
"And it seems to many people think that buying digital means you need an online connection which is absolutely not true." Wait... What? lol
Obviously you need a connection to buy, I meant you don't need an online connection to play unless it's an online only game.
MS wanted digital only. They just used physical as a delivery mechanism because they knew the console market as a whole wasn't ready for digital only games. Their plans for physical would essentially make it a digital market. Although it had the perk of being able to sell your games for a fee if you actually brought them digital. Too bad they backed out of that when they couldn't get the fee from physical games as well. As far as buying digital meaning you need an online connection. I'm pretty sure you need that to download the game. That didn't change with MS plan. They just had the added delivery mechanism of physical for digital game paradigms, with the requirement that you needed an online connection to validate your disc, and assign that copy of software to you. Hence....a connection is needed. Facts straight.
hey jackBNible people understand they are two different things. People also understand that another way to make you always online is to make that the only way you can buy a game is to be online. See what they did there?
Has PSP Go taught you anything? GTFO
The answer is simply - no.
No, why do people still think this is a thing?
Because the first hundred articles asking the same dumb question weren't enough.
Because it stirs up controversy, which garners hits.
It's not possible, many console consumers don't have access to reliable/good internet. They'd be cutting out millions of users. Someday? Obviously. But it won't be happening until fiber is the standard across all modern countries, and then likely even later.
It’s not only that but the amount of digital content there potentially would be. Even for some across the US with ok-decent internet there are still data caps. Honestly if the three I think Sony would be the last to go all digital as they still make money (very little) from Blu-ray Discs.
How do those people download the massive day one patches which many games now require to function normally? Do you really expect us to believe that significant numbers of people are buying PS4 games on disk and never getting updates?
My cousin bought Xbox one. He got killer instinct. We put the disc and needed to download 27 GB of an update juts to play it. I was like turn the wi Fi off.
Many don't. There are still people who have never updated the console out of the box as well. I'd say the majority do indeed download patches and what not, but it is far from everybody. Significant is kind of subjective term though. What is considered significant? Say 10%? That's still 7-8 million people for the PS4. I know I'll usually start a game without an update. It'll download the update in the back ground, and install it when I'm not using the game or system. But, outside of MP games, most games actually don't need updates, or you can get by without them. Might not be an optimal experience though.
Well.. if it goes it need at least a 5 TB hard drive
Discs just install the games now, so you'll need a massive hard drive either way.
It is possible, but I highly doubt it will.
if Microsoft or Sony does this, it will backfire, the globe as a whole is not ready for digital only. Sure metro areas in us and some other countries, but its not just there. Also would limit BC on xbox for those who use discs
Nope, next question.
no. next question.
Not happening.. They still sell to places around the world with crappy internet connections.. Maybe the following gen but not PS5
I want digital 4 month ago because its getting harder to find my JRPG's games. I'm tired of runing to the store. Get used to it ppl digital is the future no way around it PC is all digital to.
You've had the full ps4 library in digital this entire gen. For Sony to continue to support physical media does not get in the way of that.
'I'm tired of running to the store' says everything lol.
So you went all digital because you're not smart enough to keep up with your games? Pretty stupid reason if you ask me. I hope there isn't an all digital future either. That would be even stupider,
I live about 30 minutes away from the store and really have no problem finding my JRPG's. And the area I live in I wouldn't say is teeming with JRPG fans. Plus....there's Amazon. It's fine if you went digital, but don't assume that because of your own personal needs that everyone is in the same boat. Steam has been prevelant for over a decade now. Despite this, console digital game sales have not come close to increasing it's percentages in the way Steam rolled in. In fact, digital sales see bumps, but generally have stayed rather consistent since they became more commonplace in console spaces a few years into last gen. So, I'll get used to it when physical is no longer available. Until then, I'll buy what I want, and if enough people continue to want physical, then we'll be set, and your ability to buy digital won't be hindered in any way. I've never understood why digital proponents seem to think that people who prefer physical just need to get used to it, or get with the times when it doesn't affect them in the least. You dont' see physical proponents telling digital buyers that they're in the wrong. Seems like digital proponents are trying to justify their reasons....when the truth is, nobody cares how you buy your games, and any sane person would fight to keep options open, as opposed to just allowing the companies to do whatever they want. I dunno....maybe I'm just an old school consumer who believes in paying for what I want, instead of what people keep telling me I should want, or just becoming submissive to the point of accepting a future that doesn't interest me.
Wouldn’t mind all digital but won’t happen
Why not an option for both ? I have not touched a physical disc this gen or last
Exactly! Launch a disc-less, cheaper version and give costumers the option.
I actually agree with this. I prefer physical, but there are some that prefer digital. I think a digital only could be about $50 cheaper.
I think that would be more likely. However, multiple SKU's can be confusing to the customer. not the informed ones like us, but the average joe. On top of that, it means having to support and distribute more than one product, which can cost more, although they'd likely be OK there as we're not talking tons of different products. In any case, can't see how much cheaper it could be considering an optical drive will likely only cost them $10-20 come next gen. If they made if $50 cheaper, they'd actually make less per console, which seems like a direction they'd rather not go in.
Given how many sales their games still rack up at retail, no.
Journalists need to take courses in common sense, logic and customer trends. The gaming user base is only partially full digital capable. A lot of us would like to keep the industry honest by being able to buy games that we can keep, swap and replay without fear of losing licenses. A lot of pointless time being wasted writing these articles.
Where’s this “lot of speculation”? I haven’t heard anyone asking for discless consoles
all digital would really suck, I LIKE having a Disc.
If it happens games don't need to be $60.
If it does, Microsoft wins next gen.
If they even make it there.
No it won't be. No matter how much of a wet dream it is to these ultra progressives.
Lol at all the "own my games" people who still refuse to address the fact that even single player only games are reliant on large day one patches to function properly (ensuring that even if you use discs you still rely on digital content to play your games). Also, shoutout to the people still arguing that they buy discs to save hard drive space, completely ignorant of the fact that all discs do this gen is install the exact same size file you would otherwise download (except without the convenience of being able to download to any ps4 like you can with digital games).
Yeah...Awesome story, bro. Have fun dowloading all those 100gb games next gen. Then you can measure dicks with all those sorry ass poor people in 98% of the world, who can't afford your connection
Bro....what are you rambling on about
Once again you fail to address the massive patches.
What 100gb patches have you encountered?
They don't really know why they insist on physical. I guarantee they stream movies and music though. Digital gaming is gaining ground, lots of people are in for a rude awakening
I don't stream. I buy physical. I love having a collection. Physical STILL has many pros than cons over digital.
And the day when people can download a 50-100GB game in less than a minute, maybe more people will get their games that way. But it was only in the past couple years where digital music sales surpassed CD sales, and even then, it was only by a narrow margin. So, there are still plenty of people who partake in physical media for music. Also, don't assume the uptake in movie streaming is supplanting physical movie sales. Actual digital purchases of movie/TV content is nowhere close to physical sales of the same content. Streaming just supplanted the rental market, but even the streaming services have had to go with original content because they can't always get the new content cheap enough because the studios still want to make that money off digital rental services or physical sales. There is no rude awakening. Things progress, but it's not so immediate like you seem to imply. It'll be a gradual change until the majority just use digital, in which case, physical will wane. The chance that it happens immediately is pretty slim, because the mass market just doesn't generally move like that.
Many people who live in rural areas have data caps and no fiber optic lines in their towns at all. I'm pretty much all digital myself, but I can't take for granted that I live in an area where high speed internet is cheap and available. Also, there are downsides, like the fact I can't sell my game collection. I'd like to trade my Xbox for a PS4, but I have a hard time letting go of 250 digital titles, you know?
Funny story, or personal anecdote to refute your general hyperbole and massive exaggeration. After I moved to the boonies at the end of 2016, I went about 5-6 weeks without an internet connection, so just using my phone to browse the net. 4 weeks without cable too. I had about 4 weeks of that of vacation and personal leave from work during that time. Suffice it to say, it was kind of boring around the house....outside the post marriage dalliances. I played 6 new games fresh out of the shrink wrap in that time. All to completion. 3 of which I ended up getting platinum trophies on. All without updates. No system updates either. Played maybe 2-3 other games here or there, but they may have had updates installed before the move, can't really recall. Maybe buy games from better publishers, or realize that most games are playable from beginning to end without an update. Yes, there are games that do need massive updates. However, they're usually rushed games, MP games, or games from publishers that we constantly say are crap. Just because almost every game does have a patch, it doesn't mean that every game actually requires said patch. The need for some games to have patches is an entirely different issue from if console gaming should go all digital. Using the piss poor production and distribution of games from some publishers as an excuse why digital is necessary or required and we should just accept it, is not actually making those piss poor publishers accountable for their piss poor performance. Digital shouldn't be a crutch for these publishers. Some started that last gen, and they still do it a lot of the time. They were criticized for it last gen, and they should still be criticized for it this gen. The consumer shouldn't have to jump through hoops to play their games.
That means no more physical collector's edition :(
They could go with the side crap with a digital code like we saw with Halo 5 or that Sonic game. Couple other games did that as well. Personally, that seems kind of counter productive to a collectors mentality, since they are collecting the game itself as well.
If it did, I will not support it. My video game hobby would end at that.
I'm with you there. I could just buy all the games and systems that I haven't gotten around to playing yet. My backlog is big enough anyway, I'd be fine if I stopped at this gen and never went forward.
No it wont. I've dropped physical games altogether so this is right up my alley but there's lots of old timers out there that don't wanna progress with technology and are fighting it. It's not time for a move this bold, that time will come though.