Here’s hoping that Microsoft understands the shifts in the console market and builds upon that in the coming years when the Xbox One’s successor launches. Until then, scooping up amazing third-party games is the way to go.
Yes and really all they have to do is release new games consistently. They still do the MP but they've got to change their stance on SP games!
as long as Phil Spencer and his goons are in charge nothing will change much. expect more sea of thieves kind of games. and with that the xbone will fall further down the food chain.
agree 1000% with you bro. Phil is the ANTI CHRIST to SP OFFLINE gaming. He is a bonafide GAAS subscription based salesman that wants to 'sell' that to as many people that are willing to give into his idea of whats best for us the gamers. We know whats best with our money.....its called 'Choice' and SP OFFLINE CAMPAIGN DRIVEN GAMES with deep story and interesting characters Phil.....kinda like Sony keeps delivering with great games like Horizon, GOW, etc.........funny how they keep dominating too....maybe theres a connection?????
Switch isn’t passing the Xbox until the next Xbox comes out, so it doesn’t matter.
Straight from the experts as usual 😩
I absolutely agree. Right now MS is successful but not competitive. To at least give them credit for their more recent character, MS delivered on everything they said they would with regards to the 1X HW. To me, they deserve at least a small measure of trust at this point because you can't turn a company around if you don't try to fix it, and being more honest about the 1X is at least start to fixing their image. Back to the topic of games though... Over the last year MS has mentioned wanting a Horizon: ZD type game, started work on the Playground Gaems project, and expressed the desire to create more single player. Recently that they're working on more games with the goal of a much larger and more diverse portfolio of games but that it will take many years to catch up to everyone else. I'd like to believe him 100%, but I'm going to cautiously wait until E3 before I pass judgment on the situation. Last years' E3 was crap from a 1st party perspective because it was almost all known about before hand. FYI, I find it interesting that there's strong indication that Halo 6 will not release this year: https://careers.microsoft.c... Does this mean a new IP from 343 is on it's way to an E3 reveal and a Holiday 2018 release? There's also a tweet from Rare suggesting that Perfect Dark may be announced at E3: https://twitter.com/RareLtd... I wonder if the reason SoT has taken 4 years and is still so empty is because most of the team was secretly working on Perfect Dark? There were persistent rumors it was in development but nothing ever surfaced last year. Just a thought, but who knows?
I dont see why they deserve anything for releasing the 1x, all they did was provide a more expensive console, it did not fix their main problem which is a lack of games validating a reason to buy an x1 in the first place.
@Off Road King I said credit for their recent character, not for releasing the console. Their character was then related to their recent comments about the direction their games production is heading (See: Building Credibility). I also already agreed with Hardiman, who said that all they should release new games consistently, keep multiplayer strong, and change their stance on single player games. So what is your comment even intended to do? It's not very nice, first of all, and you're certainly not contributing anything by not paying attention to the content in my OP either. If you want to say something about my comment, I'd be happy to discuss it with you further, otherwise just don't bother to post.
In the past Spencer had the balls to tell users to basically go to their BC games to get their SP game on. Just recently he has changed his tune and is working to expand the SP experience on XB1, It's kinda a little to late for this gen since it rolls up in 2020 chances are. With all the services they are putting in place next gen should be interesting. With all the digital content and PS4 not using some strange "cell" chip processor, it would be real smart to have backwards compatibility at the start of a console launch instead of 4 years into it when it really doesn't matter.
MS doesn't have traditional console generations anymore so there will never be a full reset, so when the "2X" comes out, MS will still have the 1X (at a minimum) run the 2X games with lower settings. All BC, as well as all XB1/1X compatible titles will just shift when you do. Therefore, it doesn't really matter when the "Generation" ends because the "2X" will be FC with all of today's software by design. As far as BC (Xbox/360) goes, it always matters and there is no bad time to start, only a bad time to quit. Entire generations of kids can see what Bioware used to be like, or when rail shooters were a thing. Why would anyone ever say old games don't matter though? Sure, MS needs new games more than BC, but the word, "classics" wouldn't be in our vocabulary if old things weren't important and history would not be taught if the past didn't matter.
Christ, see an article on here like this nearly every day.
"It seems like the market has moved away from its obsession with power and gamers nowadays want the best titles on their platform." - Power in a console is nothing more than bragging rights through a gen, but games are everything and gamers have always wanted the best on their platform of choice. In my opinion, the entire problem stemmed from the slew of negative press before launch. Microsoft had never gotten this amount before (or possibly anyone), which caused them to panic in such a way they lost focus and rushed developments to counter attack. This leads to the difference of how business with an American and Japanese company differ. American companies plan for months or a year, whereas a Japanese company plan for years, and the Japanese have been running the gaming show for decades so it's safe to say their business strategies work in this market. Then there's the "console curse" to consider, if you believe in it, which rears its head on the third console after a company becomes full of themselves and complacent, which isn't anything new because the other two competitors have gotten it too at one point. And after that high of their 360, I'll bet DRM looked like a win in their eyes. Overall, I think this will be a good learning experience, and just like the other two competitors, Microsoft should hopefully come back strong and give us the competition the industry strives on next gen.
They did not get negative press from any major gaming/news outlets. They are partnered and even own some. They got negative comments in the comment sections for sure... But a lot of sites did what they could to do damage control against the negative vibe amongst the commenters or consumers. From digital foundry/euro gamer underplaying any advantages by praising high end PCs first, to “scientist broke down siting distances to be able to tell a difference between consoles” etc... So that excuse does not fly. But you are right, if Microsoft actually becomes a gaming company and not a third party leech to hit back against Sony, they can come back.
You saw no negative articles from any gaming press over DRM? Respectfully, I think we can agree to disagree here. We must of went to different sites, because all I remember is DRM negativity, which in my opinion was deserved. No one asked for DRM. Sure, I did see one or two sites that had no problems with the DRM fiasco or would talk about benefits, but they were in the minority from my perspective. From the get-go, Microsoft had lost most of the community over that slip, aswell as myself. E3 2013 didn't help them either with the announcements Sony made, like the "how to share your games on PS4" video. Overall, it was definitely their own fault that they're in this situation, but trying to piece together things to drop DRM and gain community favor in a brush of panic didn't help. They focused on the wrong things, like buying 3rd party exclusives instead of making their own. In my opinion, Microsoft couldn't see the forest from the trees.
@strayanalog I just googled Xbox one drm... Did not see any bashing. Saw tons about Microsoft is removing drm due to fan outcry. Saw articles that were more recent in using the drm as a reason for the troubles... But no outcry from the media. A few that were defending the positives.. So.. kind of proves my point.
Throw the whole Xbox staff away, fer nothing but new faces. The people there now, are clearly out of touch.
The market wants value for the product. Power is great but if it doesn't meet the right price, it will not work.The X1X would have been a seller if it sold at $399. No, this isn't wishful thinking and I know that a huge lost, and maybe that's why Sony went with the Pro release in 2016. Look at the history of video games and beginning of this gen: even with the removal of the Kinect, the PS4 is more powerful and it cost the same as Xbox one. And yes, exclusive games play an important role in value especially when there's quality in them.
Why beat a dead horse,it is what it is.....what's done is done.
Xbox is going to be a service in the future. And they’ve allready started.
'scooping up 3rd party games' is not the way to go. That cash could be invested in new studios/ip's.
the fact that Phil sees and knows this since 2014 and all he has done is close studios, cancel games, etc....just shows he is blind and deaf to the idea of investing in new studios/IP's.
Good read. From the article: As stated earlier, gamers want the best visuals at the beginning of a new generation so capitalizing on the marketing hype is key to success. I think MS should make higher framerate their main(OR ONLY) priority with a slightly better visual upgrade for their next-gen console to keep the cost low as possible. That said, even if the PS5 is priced at $400 and the next box is priced at $450 and it has a faster CPU and a slightly better GPU than the PS5 specs gamers will still buy. And, MS will once again have the bragging rights for having the best gaming system compared to the PS5. Also, having a faster CPU will give MS 1st party studios the advantage over Sony because they'll be able to do what MS knows best which is 1st person shooters, multiplayer, racing sims. Moving forward... Like the article states MS need to improve on their storytelling for their franchise because Video games aren't so different from movies. Both movies and games need to have a compelling storyline to maintain the viewer/gamer attention at all times or else he or she will get bored real fast. To add to that, there needs to be a Successful Screenplay in a game(or movie) that is fresh and interesting. A good screenplay not only keeps the viewer on their toes/thinking it has key mental elements/rewards in it that can draw the viewer/gamer further into the storyline. For example: in the movie making industry there is a screenplay technique called, "Touches" You can read what they are.... https://books.google.com/bo... Touches were in the Terminator 2 films Last but not least, MS needs a new music composer. The Last of us tunes were amazing. MS needs the same treatment for some of their franchises.
I disagree with the whole arguement that Microsoft has to make the exact same type of titles Sony does. Microsoft should play to their roots and strengths then stem from their. Which is solid online gaming experiences. Microsoft , even though it is important to at least listen to criticisms, doesnt have to knee jerk react to everything people complain about. Nintendo is a great example. They find success in playing throigh their strenghs FIRST. Them go from their. They have never been known to knee jerk react and they never should. They know what their strengths are.
My bad. Of course, MS not only need to play to their strength(mutliplayer/1st person shooters/Racing sims) they need to make SP games like Sony. I guessing left that part out since I thought most gamers already knew MS need some SP experience on their gaming machine. Again, my bad. I'll try to explain myself a little better next time.
Gaming needs better journalism.
Yeah, their approach should be to focus on games. A hardware boost can help, but doesn't make up for their problem. Their BC feature is making serious strides, but it came pretty late in the gen, and people want new games. Exclusives sell. Sony knows this. Nintendo knows this. Why is it that MS still doesn't? Do we need to spell it out to them?
We do need to spell it out because Microsoft is run by suits and the other two are run by passionate gamers.
Tell me about it. Great hardware but damn.. If M$ was going to stick with the Fable/Forza/Gears/Halo, they simply have to be some of the best videogames ever made, every game, every year and not what they are now. State of Decay 2 is looking to be the consoles highlight single player game experience, that's kinda messed up. +Why can't I use custom themes like on my PS4?? The fuk's that about?
@mikeslemonade are you in for a shock. It will pass the X Box by May 2019. You will probably be in shock when this happens.
Nothing wrong with Xbox. all this talk. If you don’t like it then don’t buy it, End of discussion. I play my Xbox one x every night and my pro is in the off position all most nightly. Believe it or not some of us gamers like different games not everyone likes PlayStation exclusive games. some of us like gears of war or halo or forza and it’s enough for us. So get over it and go play what ever the hell you are into. Bla bla bla bla bla
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