"Some of the key developers behind Nier: Automata have suggested that the action game genre is becoming stale, needing a revolution instead of an evolution."
The new God of War says, "hello!"
How is GOW more realistic than anything that has come before it?
don't be silly If anything the new God of War is inspired by existing titles. The Souls games come to mind. The Last of Us It's cool to be excited about an upcoming game. I am too. But tone down the hyperbole.
Yes it maybe inspired by them games but the combat does not even look like them.
King's Field came out way before God of War and was the basis for the Souls series.
"but the combat does not even look like them." The combat is an after thought in these games though, pure simple with QTE's and cinematic cut-scenes.
The new GOW looks a lot of like TLoU and Uncharted graphically and those games are 5+ years old.
You're just here to try to down play God of War it seems.
Games in general are getting stale, but there are always outliers and innovators. VR is shaking things up, God of War tried something very daring with the one-shot camera. Hopefully this encourages other developers to take risks.
I dont think it was that daring to be honest, and the combat really reminds me of god hand which has over the shoulder camera
Half Life 2 had a one shot camera take on gaming, apart from the beginning with the Gman everything happened in the gamers eyes. It's not new. That was back in 2004.
You can't mash a bunch of perspectives together and call it a revolution... Neir:Automata sold because of panties, that's it. Look how horrifically the last Neir sold. What action games need is, like always, good writing, fun gameplay mechanics, good music and tbh, the typical 10/10 score stuff games like GOW are getting. Basically just play GOW, and think, "why are they so gud, when we are so not?"
Ummm, nier automatasold because its a damn good game. It literally has great gameplay mechanics, a wild ass story and stellar music. Its metascore of 88 is not because of panties. Try the game sometime.
Garbage argument you have there. The last Nier has no bearing on the second’s success. Automata sold 2.5 million total so far and that’s without much of any permanent price reductions.
"What action games need is, like always, good writing, fun gameplay mechanics, good music..." If you played Nier Automata (especially through Ending [E]) you would know that it delivers everything you mentioned in spades, and no it isn't just panties... GoW may be amazing, and the story something truly epic, but please do not even try to compare it with Nier Automata as few games will ever go as deep as that game.
not many people understand or know that Nier (including the first one) has great story/narrative that are philosophical, amazing characters, amazing music and combat (automata is at least). It is not the usual block buster holly wood story laid bare for all to see or easy to be understood. Bloodborne/Dark Soul/Lost Odyssey/Journey also dwell deep into philosophical narrative (which many people seem to gloss over) as well, though most only look at them from a game play perspective. IMO, these types of games are worth playing because if you actually understand the idea behind them, then you can truly appreciate what the developers are trying to convey to you, and perhaps reveal a certain truth.
The first Nier is a really good game though. It was certainly better than any of the FF XIII series, and most of the RPGs of that time period. A lot of new Automata fans have still not touched it, and it's a bit of a tragedy, as the story and music are possibly greater than it's sequel. The gameplay is obviously not as good, but it's definitely a magical experience for an RPG gamer.
AHAHAHA..... "Nier: Automata sold because of panties" xDDDDDDDDDDDDD GoW can't compare to Nier: Automata.... Nier: Automata is on a whole other level.
"action game genre is becoming stale, needing a revolution instead of an evolution." , damn I like Nier Automata a lot, but wow that's one of the dumbest thing I have read in a while, by evolving is the way something won't get stale , revolutions sometimes occurs cause the desperate need of an evolution of something.
No it hasnt
Fix the PC port asshole.
Tell that to Square Enix it's not up to Platinum
It's refreshing to see someone who actually knows what they're talking about, and where to put the blame for these things. So many idiots just throw their hilariously misguided anger at Platinum because they're too dumb to realize who is actually in control.
Limitless polygons will only get you so far.. The game has to have heart.. Without that, its nothing
I disagree trying to become realistic is the problem it needs to be more batshit insane like Bayonetta and Metal Gear Rising, the only problem with the combat in Nier was it’s lack of difficulty in comparison to previous PG games.
WB games can pretty much copy and paste their action systems and it almost always works. Sleeping Dogs had great combat, and the new Spider-Man game looks to have some DMC-ish, air-combo stuff going on as well. The genre is fine and also has plenty of room to grow.
So the headline says Action games have reached the Climax of realism, but then says it needs a revolution? Despite their experience and pedigree, I don't agree very much with their statements. Nier had great variety, but I found the game pretty boring visually, story-telling wise and the action nothing out of the ordinary. Don't find anything useful in their statements. There's plenty of ways to innovate, I feel the gaming industry is still pretty young and only a handful of games really deliver what I consider at the level of film and books. Last of Us is one of the few that hits all marks. I still love games, buy pretty much every big release and enjoy them but I don't think we are "there" yet. I hope God of War is as good as the review scores say (media blackout for me since the initial E3 reveal).
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