With the gaming industry embracing digital distribution methods, would it be beneficial for Microsoft to build a Xbox One console that does not include a disc drive?
well seeing as they are supporting BC alot, it would be kinda bad for them to remove the disc drive as it may prevent a majority of the players from being able to access their BC catalog
That and the UHD bluray drive they advertise so much.. Unfortunately the BC and UHD support is their main selling point.. Losing that disc drive would hurt them if anything..
That and their reputation. Imagine them releasing are advertising such a thing. It will be two seconds before every one jumps on them abandoning physical media. And I will be one of them. Heck, there will be accusations of it being a way around the 24 hour check in policy! Now they have an excuse to force you online all the time.
how my BC is all Digital as well
If Microsoft wants to continue cutting their own console throats. Then yes, by all means they should put out a digital only console and see the hate for them build up again.
I agree, then Sony should make a video about how you trade games on PS4... oh wait....
That was awesome trolling! You gotta respect Yoshida, and it was on the go, nothing planned... "Hey let's do this, right? record it with your cell phone" I laugh so hard.
ROFL!!! Good comment man. Never thought of it as awesome trolling! Love it.
HA HA i seen what you did there! yup 2013 all over again!
can't believe that was almost 5 years ago
Meh, still love buying physical games. The trend certainly is going toward a more digital emphasis, but don't think it's time yet.
Physical is actually making a comeback. Music CD's and Vinyl sales overtook Digital music for the first time since 2010/2011, and the gap is getting bigger. Also for games, there's been more physical indies in the last few years when, at the start of this gen, it was a miracle if that happened. Couple that with the fears of Net Neutrality issues, and I think physical will be the norm again for most entertainment fields. The more games I can get on disc/cartridge the better.
What's the point? Benefit? It will only alienate customers who prefer physical copies. Plus it would get rid of the UHD player and the Xbox BC.
I don’t care whom ever make a disk less console is dead in the arrival (DOA) the word isn’t the US EURPE RUSIA AND ASIA major cities
MS is going to let Sony or Nintendo do it first. Seeing as they get more backlash for things than those two do. I mean the Switch technically is already all digital.
What? No it isn't.
Didn't say it was. I said "technically." There's no disc drive and you can download games digitally. It's more digital than both the PS4 and X1 which have disc drives.
@Lennox "There's no disc drive and you can download games digitally. It's more digital than both the PS4 and X1 which have disc drives." except the only difference is Nintendo is using a cartridge drive instead of a disc drive. its just as digital as PS4 and Xbox 1. if anything, less because of the small internal storage
Makes no sense. Just because it uses cards instead of discs doesn't make it technically digital. It's just as much a physical medium as a disc. Sure there is the option for digital as well, but that doesn't mean anything.
@Lennox Except cartridges aren't Digital...
There's no disc drive. You can download games digitally. I know there's an option for cartridges.
well then i guess ps4 is also all digital. i know theres an option for discs you can download games digitally... if you can physically buy the game, it isn't a digital only system..... i dont understand how you can view a disc as physical but not a cartridge. both of those PHYSICAL medias need a drive to read them.....
@lennox, you're really reaching. Funniest thing I've read all day lol.
@Lennoxb63 you keep using that word—I do not think it means what you think it means. tech·ni·cal·ly ˈteknək(ə)lē/Submit adverb 1. according to the facts or exact meaning of something; strictly.
Lennoxb63 has doubled down on the stupid multiple times here. haha
Another individual who is literally just joking about being serious? Call me a grammar Nazi if you wish, but I prefer to think of it as having conversation that doesn't lend to pyschotic breakdowns and other general mental disorders. Words are the most powerful tool we have. Too many individuals improperly throw around phrases and terms that LITERALLY erode the bedrock of civilization.
the Switch is technically "disc-less", not "all digital"
Gamers are not ready for that. What MS need to do, is sweep Xbox management.
They need to stop the higher ups making the decisions as well. Spenser is just a mouthpiece tbh.
Stop acting as gamers are this collective group of thinkers. We all don't follow the same path. Some gamers (a fast-growing group) are more than ready for a device without physical media. As noted by the many times people comment they are already buying everything digitally one can see that for these gamers the need for any physical media is probably, in most cases, a non-existent need. To many of those digital buyers, the disc drive is a waste, just gathering dust. And yes because gamers are not this one group believing the same, there are gamers not ready. Maybe only buy physical media. And maybe they will never be ready. And that is why in the at this point I can't see a diskless only console that is not just an option; not the only option for a console and especially not an option right now. Maybe in a couple of years when digital dominates sales and MS brings out the next device, they could have a diskless all digital option of the current X to move it much more easily to that $299 or less price point.
The disk drive, even the UHD drive in a One X is one of the cheaper components. Part of the reason for consoles still having a disc drive is "why not for the price?" And large swathes of people don't have access to 25mbps+ internet. They're not going to tool more manufacturing lines, on a sku that does the same thing but doesn't have a disk drive and then price it at a different lower price point. It doesn't make sense from a material or consumer perspective. I'm not arguing against digital, I also think it's inevitable. It's just not going to be any time soon, the internet infrastructure in North America is shameful and that's the biggest obstacle.
Terrible idea. I love my physical copies of Xbox AAA exclusive hits
Well they don't really need one to be fair.
when they are only including 1 tb hdds in the consoles, they do need them. unless they plan on replacing the disc drive with another hardddrive
How does that effect anything different to this gen? Having your disc does nothing to change the amount of space it takes up on your hard drive. Are you new to this gen?
no im not new to this gen, i've just being buying digital all gen so i have no discs, i dont know how much of the game runs off the disc and how much runs off of the installed portion. Never the less, they do need them, as slot of people still have data caps and alot of people still prefer physical copies, like my brother
The whole game installs from the disc, none of the game runs off the disc. After installation the only thing the disc does is verify its the game it says it is. It's the same on both the PS4 and XB1, the load times off the 5400rpm HDDs are already atrocious loading any portion of the game off the disc would be nightmare fuel.
so why not say, Sony should build a console without a disk drive mr writer lol
well seeing as Sony is a part of the Blu ray association, and Ms isn't, one could say the reason behind it is so that Sony doesn't recieving any funds whenever a Ms console or disc is sold
Sony is a minor player in the BDA (they represent about 15% in Blu-Ray contribution.) Transitioning people from disc to all digital on the console would be a greater benefit to Sony's bottom line than a check they get back from BDA for anything they sell via the PS line. There is a lot of IP used in the Blu-Ray from companies not part of the association. In fact, even though Microsoft is not part of the association's board they receive an occasional check for several of their patents that are used in Blu-Ray.
The drive only costs like 30$, so you are looking at most at a $50 savings... Not worth it if you ask me...
The drives cost about $10, you save $0-10 not having one. Microsoft doesn't pay retail price.
You aren't including royalty fees, and assembly.
No. Physical should always be an option. and that's coming from someone who has gone fully digital with my game purchases since April 2014.
What so they can charge you $10 less? What's the point?
Are you serious?
Even if they can't because of the belief they have for backward compatible, what about half of the people who have low internet connection?
No we have both and thats how it should stay.
still, xbox is not the only console, so say all consoles should go without drives.
MS first party has games that weigh like 150GB iirc are we sure it's the best idea?
Yeah, that's what Microsoft needs most now—less focus on games and more variations of hardware.
theres a ton of people who would take an extra tb over a Blu-ray drive but it takes away options and hands up more control to publishers who could keep prices higher for longer in the store and giving up your ability to trade can also keep prices artificially higher for longer, you can also kiss goodbye to your local game store who provides some local jobs even for those who only buy digital keeping a Blu-ray drive is important and its always fun to find a game or two in some bargain bin at the end of the gen
All 300+ of my Xbox 1 games are digital so for me this is a good idea.
It's a dumb idea. It won't make much of a difference in price because optical drives don't cost much at all. The digital option is there so why divide the costumers?
You say it’s a dumb idea as if it’s a fact. That’s just your opinion just like how it’s a good idea in my opinion. How exactly is this dividing the costumers? Do you really think someone who goes out and buys a disk less Xbox one doesn’t know what they are buying? You sound ridiculous. It’s a great idea for people like me who only buys digital. And people thought that it was a dumb idea for the original Xbox to only have an Ethernet port at the time too but look how wrong those people were...
No don't waste time on a sku hardly anyone wants, especially considering the backlash at launch
No, plenty of people still have bad Internet and data caps, until this is taken care of all digital is not feasible.
Pointless, especially for those who have bad internet connections.
Why would it be beneficial to remove options? A drive probably adds like $20-30 to the overall cost of the system. Can't you just like...you know...not use it?
After what happened this gen think ms will be thinking twice before going digital only.
Might be a good option in a couple of years for sure. A SKU with a diskless option and definitely not as the exclusive console design. I personally buy all digital now but, I still use the drive for other things (mainly because the quality of streaming movies sucks. ) and I do have friends that come over with discs on an occasion or inserting an old CD. I just like the drive around and would prioritize purchasing any next console with a disc player over a device that does not have one. Even though most gamers are moving towards digital it will be several more years before it represents a large majority of gaming purchases. So, perhaps with the next generation (or whatever they call the next box since MS supposedly isn't doing generations thing), they could have an entry device that is all digital. I guess if they wanted the current X to transition to an entry device by the time the X2 comes out they could remove the disc. Doing so could save 40 or so dollars on a device. Which is quite a lot when are talking about reaching $249 MSRP for the X in 2020. Of course, the X2 would be at that higher price-point. However, I just think having too many SKUs that are made up of totally different console configurations at this point (with the base unit) would be both a waste of resources, harder to support and definitely more confusing to possible purchasers.
Where do people get the idea that most console gamers are going digital? Is there some source here other than you and a few of your bros preferring it?
Did the failure of PSP Go teach you anything
Stupid article. It is Sony that should make discless console. Back com back is too important for Xbox.
They won’t because they like the 4k Blu-ray as a feature
They are seriously some dumb bloggers out in the wild...
Why? That won’t bring the cost down that much and they already have the S for those that want a cheaper option.