Video games create a sense of pride, not aggression.
Doesnt matter 30+ yrs of study and examination keeps telling them that. The gun lobby needs a scape goat.
Except that is not true. For every study you can show I can show one that contradicts it. There are multiple studies in that the 30+ years you speak of that show an increase in agression, lack of empathy, reduction in self-control, increase frequency for lying and cheating by people when playing heavily violent games. Especially more pronounced in youths that are still developing mentally (up to the age of 25). And of course then there are studies that show that show there is very little correlation (if any) that violent behavior in youths is already developed elsewhere and games are just a bargaining chip with that already established mentality. It all depends on how you want to frame an argument and the bias who wish to reach with an argument. Neither side has correctly a proved or disproved a theory that true violent behavior arises by those that have been overexposed to extreme violence in media plays to that behavior.
I have been saying that games and movies and music do not bring about these tendencies in most people but there are those who are more easily susceptible to these kinds of stimulation than others. And it is that minority that gets all the focus as a means to justify the blame game that has been going on with the media for decades.
Nobody in the hood shoots up schools. I wonder why.
You don't assert causation unless there is conclusive evidence in support of it, and hence the default stance is that there is no effect. To impute to video games those things you say, the experiment would have to compare those randomly (in case aggressive people who lack empathy and self-control simply prefer violent games) assigned violent video games with those assigned non-violent video games (to control for the isolation of gaming itself potentially causing those effects). Further, the effect would likely have to be proven to be lasting, and not something which comes and goes, like intoxication or frustration. And even if that could be proved, the same case could be made for books which make people aggressive, the implications of which on free speech are unthinkable.
Not true? 😂😂😂 28514; I don't think you fully understand what a lobbyist group is you're talking about an entity that only exists to support the sale of firearms which means they're not going to support anything that risk the sale for their constituents which actually means they will find any scapegoat that keeps the conversation away from Banning specific gun types so they could keep helping these companies make money I'm sorry but there's no point to debate something like this considering why a lobbyist group exists in the first place. One of the biggest reasons that Canada the United Kingdom Japan Australia and many more were able to have realistic gun legislation was because they did not also have these type of lobbying groups infiltrating their government. I mean it would be equivalent to saying with the only country that doesn't have the cure to cancer yet also disregard that Pfizer in a bunch of pharmaceutical companies are paying our government officials to never investigate or support a cure so they can keep making money on the medicine. It shouldn't be this hard to understand that greedy companies exist seriously this is not some brand-new idea.
It may not be fashionable to say this nowadays but, The shooters in just about every case seem to all be retarded in some way. So, I don't buy the argument that they were made to be violent by games or music or movies etc. Normal kids don't act like that.
I've read some of the literature. It's pretty much exclusively bad research, whether the methodology was questionable, the sample size was a joke, they ignored control groups, they used the wrong statistics, etc., etc. etc. The truth is the research is more or less exclusively people with a stake in the debate. Here's the thing though: gaming does produce some effect on the brain (both good and bad, I would say). As far as motivating violent behavior, I believe that would only be a problem if someone has extraordinarily low resiliency with extraordinarily high empathy--even then, age is another factor. People tend to act out their traumas (for instance, if a child is sexually abused, they tend to act out what happened to them on other objects or people). Trauma can also stunt development. We don't see many people acting out traumatic events in gaming, probably because they weren't exposed to anything that traumatic while playing. To me, that suggests one of two things: kids are not playing games that can traumatize them or people altogether are able to accurately distinguish video games from themselves. Possibly both. They realize that they have the power to stop the experience if they become flooded. That's not something you can do with something that is legitimately traumatizing or mind-altering for that matter. Though I can say nothing definitive, I highly doubt gaming is corrosive. But I will say that I believe loot boxes may actually trigger gambling behavior in some people. And I do find that quite a few gamers I know who play very action-intensive games have shorter attention spans. I can't prove any correlation obviously. I haven't done any research, but speculatively, it's interesting (anecdotally) that games where you're watching your surroundings, HUD, and attending to your real-world environment might make you hyper vigilant where focusing on any one thing is difficult. Also, as VR technology improves, I would be very curious to see what kind of effect a game like Resident Evil 7 or Outlast might have on a child. Of course, that's an overt ethical violation, but then I think you could make some kind of definitive statement.
I would like to see at least on of these "contradicting" studies. Like someone already said, if there is no proof of causation, then the study should say "There is no evidence that video games cause violent behavior." At that point, it becomes more evident that video games don't cause violence. Researchers (smart ones at least) will not try and disprove the "theory" which is really only a hypothesis at this point, they will try and prove it. How would they disprove it if it hasn't been proven yet?
Because schools in the "hood" are so plagued with violence anyway that kids are searched, put through metal detectors and heavily policed by staff and security?
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Been playing video games for 46 years. I've never gotten the urge to go out and cause harm after playing any. It is a break down of values being taught in the home.
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if it did alot of us on N4G would be seasoned real life killers by now.
You should see all the people I just killed like an hour ago... ... playing Dishonored: Death of the Outsider
I think out of all the violent games out there, GTA would probably be the worst, considering the play area of GTA mimics everyday life. There's been 80,000,000 copies of GTA V sold, yet we haven't had 80,000,000 cases of people losing their shit and mowing down people in cars or with guns for no reason at all since that game released. Crazy people will be crazy people.
I've got legit mental problems and games don't make me feel one way or another, they're just a way of distracting myself so I can sit still and concentrate for a while, they're really good for improving concentration actually.
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haha that one got me
I kill hookers to get my money back. Thanks Grand Theft Auto! 😁
Hunting and animal abuse is more conducive to violent social tendencies than video games.
Disagree on hunting. You’d be surprised how many people in the continental do hunting as a sport/ survival needs, and they’re never gonna be the ones you hear about shooting up places or intentionally hurting people.
Tell that to me and my friends how we dare not just kill zombies we even kill survivers in Dead Rising.
It's such a dumb argument bc somewhere, somehow someone will argue and have trivial evidence to support it either way as this world is filled with people of all sorts. Did everyone get rid of their dog in the 70s after Berkowitz got his orders to kill from a dog?!
Son of Sam reference....I am impressed.
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I played tons of violent videogames as kid. I never woke up thinking “Here I go killing a again”.
It wouldn't matter if violent video games would create violence, there is a rating system in place already. The problem is that there are far too many irresponsible parents who just buy whatever their kids want without looking at what they're actually buying. I remember a few weeks after GTA5 came out on PS3 and 360, I was at Bestbuy. Some mother wanted to buy GTA 5 for her 10-11 years old son, who was right next to her. The store clerk simply refused to sell it because he knew she was buying it for her son. Then there are those who buy the games even if they know what they're buying because they believe their kids are responsible enough ... I can tell you, your kids are definitely not responsible and mature enough if they're not even teenagers.
No. Definitely not true at all. Kids that age are very smart and aware what is right from wrong, good and evil, reality and media entertainment... However, it's the kids that have no remorse or sympathy for torturing and killing animals and even rodents and reptiles such as mouses and frogs you have to be worried about. Those are the ones that have some screws loose and need to be under high supervision.
Game ratings are not meant to be law (beyond not selling M rated games to minors) , they're merely recommendations. I played GTA 3 as a ten year old and turned out just fine. Kids are way smarter and aware of the world than people give them credit for. Books that contain way more explicit and disturbing content do not get the same treatment so why should games then?
Nobody's arguing. The only ones still coming up with this ridiculous claim are those who are in the pockets of the NRA (politicians, right-wing media) who want to divert the conversation away from sensible gun control, so they'll quickly try to blame it on age-old scapegoats like entertainment (games, violence on TV, music, comics, whatever).
Always remember , they need to find something to blame other than the absolutely ridiculous quantity of guns in the country.
Video games can certainly bring out he ugly side of human nature. Just jump into a round of Rocker League and you'll see what I mean. I played a round not long ago and the other guy on my team said I should go die in a fire. The anger in his voice was terrifying...all from a game! Games may not be the cause but they certainly dont do anything to prevent either.
Some people are nasty & vulgar playing games online competitively even co-op,though I highly doubt most of them will go out & purchase an assault rifle to go out in the public to commit mass murders.
But no one is saying that most gamers are going to become offenders because they played games. Thing is, we have controls to prevent people from buying weapons, filling certain types of jobs, adopting, etc. Should anyone be able to play any type of game?
Always a plow to divert the blame elsewhere instead of taking the responsibility & blame themselves.
I would blame the parents, not the video games...
They don’t, but parents still shouldn’t be buying their kids CoD or GTA regardless.
As of 2015 roughly 150 million People Plus IN America play Video games, If Video games were the cause of Violence...gun violence specifically, Why isn't the continental US rampant with thousands of spree killings daily? This same metric was foisted on Music and movies in previous generations, Video games are just the new boogie man that replaces other forms of media. and when something new and popular emerges in the future, THAT will take the place of video games as the new boogie man. http://www.theesa.com/artic...
The problem is Senomyx! They're putting there nasty Hek293 cells in our food, waking up demons.
My criminal record is huge because of games... As a child, I was arrested for popping pills and trying to eat people. I was also done for cruelty to animals and vandalism, for jumping on mushrooms in the local woods and turtles at a pet shop. As a teenager, I was put into a juvenile detention center for throwing barrels at workmen on a builders site and trying to shoot dogs that attacked me at a mansion visit with the school. As an adult... Well. Lets just say digging up people's gardens on the back of an ostrich I painted yellow, looking for the final parts to upgrade to my ultimate weapon, didn't go down well with the neighbours.
Penn and Teller did a great 'Bullshit' video on this same subject and as they said its exactly that. Check it out on youtube if you haven't seen it.
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