Hideo Kojima may very well thrive without Metal Gear, but Metal Gear as we know it is likely to fail without Kojima.
Metal gear is Kojima.
True, but by the end there he was getting tired of being forced to make more MGS to the point where I believe his quality work was starting to decline. It's better for him to be able to move on and make the games he really wants to make, unfortunately Konami will probably rape the corpse of this series for years to come.
There were several directors for mgs2, 3, 4, peace walker, and 5 and game designers in addition to Kojima. I’m sure they can conjure the right team and make a good mgs game. Wish they did actually. It’s just that Konami is crazy right now and won’t.
That's interesting so you're telling me you have no clue that the majority of that team is not working with Sony Computer Entertainment along with Kojima? 😂😂😂 128514; I seriously don't understand how you were able to know enough about the development team but not even know that the majority of them are still working with the famous director. So buddy you might want to take a glance at the Kojima Productions staff because the majority of them left Konami following Metal Gear Solid 5 as I would too. Kojima is a huge visionary and people move with the titles he releases so you have to understand that Metal Gear Solid to many is not even the same Series without the same development team. So all I think this is proving is that gamers are not simply going to buy a game simply because of game alone it has everything to do with the concept in the trust and longevity of the development team to actually create a quality. Let's be completely honest here you could have one of the most famous game series in the world but if the majority of the fans hear a different team is making the game they're going to be skeptical about its quality just like any other project. Trust me Metal Gear Solid is more than just a sum of its name.
worked out pretty ok for treyarch with call of duty tbh. Kojima wasn’t the only game designer at Konami. I’m sure they will find someone who can make a good metal gear game without kojima at the helm.
@edmix show us proof of what you say please. As far as the majority of the team leaving, and don't tell me to "google" it because you're the one who made the claim, so back it up.
I was going to mention call of duty, but someone else did already. Also there’s Nintendo as an example as they are always changing people up. Either way Kojima has been saying since mgs2 that he didn’t want to make metal gear anymore and was training his staff to take over. He didn’t want to do it, and Konami didn’t want him doing. I think it can be done if Konami focuses.
this comment isnt directed at you edmix. comparing mgs to call of duty really? idiots
no Kojima is the overall writer and director of every main mgs title. its similar to how film works there are team leads and 2nd directors but everything went through Kojima.
Gotta resort to name calling? We were not comparing mgs to cod. We we’re comparing how other developers can still make a product similarly to the original team with similar quality. Personally liking or disliking COD is negligible. Either way it doesn’t matter. Konami had a chance and came up with crap. They thought of a new concept and slapped the mgs logo on it.
Considering how terrible Survive is, this begs the question of how much freedom did Kojima have with the games he was working on and what he was forced to do against his better judgement? I can't see the series improving, I think it had already reached its pinnacle and will most likely go down hill from here.
I think Jim Sterling says it best. Fu*k Konami should be a thing right now whenever their name is mentioned.
I think the gamers who will play that game is the real "survivor"
"...but Metal Gear as we know it is likely to fail without Kojima." I'm not a huge fan of egomaniac Hideo Kojima the person, but I am a fan of Hideo Kojima the game desginer. There is no "likely" about it. Survive is about 80% recycled MGS V, which was still a great game, despite Konami's meddling. Yet, Survive is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Somehow, it is comparable to Umbrella Corps in how cheap and uninspired it is, yet, most of the game was merely just "imported" from MGS V. It's basically a hilariously bad mod for MGS V, created by Konami itself. No, there is no "likely" about it. Metal Gear as we knew it, is finished without Kojima. End of story.
i pretty much agree. im sure they'll find some people for it but kojimas vision for mgs was what made it incredible, imo amyways
This is no different then when the original Devil May Cry development team went with Sega to make Bayonetta. The Devil May Cry reboot being developed by Ninja Theory went on to become one of the worst selling Devil May Cry games. Soooo SHOCK You mean to tell me that a game series without the main development team is going to perform poorly? /s Game Publishers seem to have this idea that the majority of fans can simply be fooled with the bait and switch and would simply buy a series based on name alone with they're not realizing is this medium is one of the most informed when it comes to stuff like this. I bought Bayonetta over the Devil May Cry reboot simply because the game being called Devil May Cry is not going to make me purchase it, I'm buying the game because of the concepts of the development team in the quality so to me I purchased Bayonetta because of the people behind it. So, Konami could make 100 games called Metal Gear Solid but if the original development team is not working on it it's simply just a ploy to try to get people's money especially considering the original development team is long gone. People need to understand this is not just about add a okajima in his team this is how people feel in general to be honest about any major game that simply the name alone is not going to make people trust the quality. Put this into perspective if you had a game called The Witcher 4 releasing and Electronic Arts of publishing it in another team you never heard of was developing the game, CD projekt Red's staff has moved on to another project and are not involved with this game, are you really buying that game day one? So I think as Gamers we need to stop fooling ourselves and stop really trying to pretend that the property is more important than the people that actually create the damn game it is not only disrespectful it's absolutely ridiculous to honestly believe there's going to be trust behind a team that clearly has not made a metal gear solid game by themselves.
Yeah I think that logic is lame. A good game should be played because it's a good game. Sure the original devs may've been gone, but if new devs put their hard work and time into it and come out with a product that's just as good or surpasses the original devs they should be given that respect. I play games to enjoy games, not to idolize devs and guarantee them my money just because they are who they are the product being sold is the game, not the devs, and if it's good or decent it's worth my money, regardless of the dev.
" A good game should be played because it's a good game" Um..ok, where did you read I say that wasn't the case? I don't buy games for name alone...
DMC 3&4 (the best ones) were not made by Kamiya's team. DmC was outsourced to Ninja Theory.
Not as long as Konami had it
Did this even need to be stated... The whole grass and green and the sky is blue comment.
It's already showing how the devs have no clue what Metal Gear is. With how many games and how many fans there are out there, you would think they could find a team to at least create something close. Call of Duty does it (not that I wanna compare the two game series) but come on....Koji Pro pretty much set a stencil for the series, why can't they just make a MG1 and 2 remake with updated everything? Start from scratch, keep it loyal to the series and to the fans, and make it about the experience instead of the money.
" but come on....Koji Pro pretty much set a stencil for the series, why can't they just make a MG1 and 2 remake with updated everything? Start from scratch, keep it loyal to the series and to the fans, and make it about the experience instead of the money.." 100% Agreed The publisher is either too lazy or just too dumb (or both). The characters exist, the story has already been told, the engine is done and ready, they don't do this legit based on stupidity. Its a safe bet, doesn't go outside the realm of classic MG concept and they could always outsource the story and even character design to Kojima and Yoji Shinkawa. So they could have the blessing and ok by Kojima for fans and have a story made by its creator, on top of still having the design of characters by Yoji Shinkawa. Its not as if this can't or hasn't even been done, Yoji Shinkawa is literally working on BOTH Death Stranding for Sony and Left Alive for Square Enix. Konami is just a dumb publisher that has many higher ups that are out of touch with gaming. How I see this, this is a very easy move, conservative and safe investment. Trust me, when you get this much hate, you need to restructure, go on safe bets and be a bit more conservative. We saw Square do this, Capcom, Nintendo, Sega etc. Go for safe bets, work on conservative ideas (Mega Man 9/10, RE7 return to original format, Bravely Default, World Of Final Fantasy, Kirby, Splatoon etc) some times to gain trust, a company must seek older, solid and trusted concepts instead of progress, experimental ones that only leave users fearful of change, ESPECIALLY after Konami's recent moves
Theyre trying to cash in with metal gear survive. They're uing the same assets as MGS V without putting too much effort into it.
I want to see how kojima survives without metal gear. What else has he made that has sold well besides metal gear?
Snatcher, Policenauts and Zone of the Enders
Lol people act like if it wasn't for kojima tactical stealth games wouldn't even be around. Story in games was push after Metal gear solid on ps1. Yeah he did something great,haters what game style or game have you develop???
Stealth games were around before Metal Gear series. Story in games were around before Metal Gear Solid, mostly in RPG's You don't have to have the same profession as someone to criticize their work. Should reviewers be film makers to review films? So why does this logic apply to games?
most modern stealth mechanics are derived from mgs and it was revolutionary in storytelling rpgs were the only games that had big stories for the most par at that time. mgs has pretty much inspired every story heavy sp game since.
I see what you did there, pimpin!
I know i'll get downvoted to hell for speaking my mind, but i'll do it anyway. I think Kojima is an overrated dev takes too much credit for the series when in reality it wasn't only him who worked on the games. I argue that only MG, MG2, MGS 1, MGS 3, and Peace Walker were the only good ones. I feel like MGS 4 wasn't very good outside of the nostalgic moments, and MGS V was a mess outside of gameplay and graphics. I think while the Metal Gear Solid series (and zone of enders) is responsible for a lot of cool moments in gaming, I feel like it's also responsible for some of the worst writing in gaming as well. But of course western gamers grew up with the series, so we put Kojima and the series on a pedestal where he can do no wrong, him not working sufficiently as an employee and being fired couldn't have been both Konami's and Kojma's fault. I think if Konami and Kojima, want to continue the series they can, and will, but they'll need to sit they devs down and really ask them what direction they see the series going. Either a spin off, a new saga, or a faithful and solid remake would do it.
I thought that was pretty obvious from the getgo. How anyone can possibly think this company can develope decent games with talent like Kojima is beyond me. They should just sell their biggest IP’s off and stick to making Japanese slot machines. That’s all they’re good at.
Of course it won't knowing Kojima is the heart & soul of Metal Gear it's Kojima's game.
I don't think that's the right statement. I think a great MGS can be made without Kojima but the bigger question is will Konami ever fund the game properly or hire/put the right developers in place to succeed. Let's be honest Konami funded MGS5 well with over 80 million but kojima's slow development process frustrated them. I honestly blame kojima for failure of MGS5 because he was given over 5 years and over 80 million yet he focused on stuff that didn't matter and instead lapsed in areas where MGS needed to be strong kojima decided on a weak story kojima decided on weak characters(especially considering past MGS games) changing the voice actor a huge open world that feels empty simply BS trailers because if you watch the trailers and play the game that's like night and day difference story wise. Konami screw up too: if you gave him over 5 years and 80 million why not let the man finish the game Let him leave with dignity he served the company well and made Konami a lot of money All the BS treatment of Kojima as not letting him speak or show up during media appearances I am a huge MGS fan and the saddest thing is to know the final game in the series didn't go out with a bang. I put a lot of blame on Konami for the way they handled this whole situation but i am also not naive to think kojima did nothing wrong. I know that's not the popular opinion and i agree because kojima was treated unfairly in the end
Probably not but let’s be real here MGS5 was not all that great and arguably the worst in the series.
Metal Gear already has two finales
Here's hoping Konami doesn't survive. I thought EA was greedy.
We will see. im having a blast with survive. MG will be fine without Kojima.
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