The Metal Gear franchise has always been intimately connected with its creator Hideo Kojima. Maybe it’s finally time the series embraces the perspectives of new artists.
"As much as I love Kojima’s contributions to the Metal Gear series, the franchise has done little to reiterate itself." ...what? Seriously, one of the main reason this series remained relevant and exciting for all those years is that it always DID reinvent itself.
Journalists looking for clicks that's all. All MGS games were different and tried new things for the writer to say it didn't Cleary shows he or she doesn't understand Kojima or MGS under Kojima
Author of the piece here, I talked about many of the different MG games in the puece, as well as Kojima's diverse catalog! I just think there's value in having a different perspective as the creative lead on Metal Gear :)
So...zombies are "creative"?
Plus First of all zombies aren't creative. I honestly agree with you somewhat as a MGS fan I would love for Konami to fund a new proper MGS game I want to see what some new fresh creative mind might be able to do with this series but MGS survive isn't that game I am not one of those MGS fans who think the series is only good because of Kojima but was the one visionary behind many of the things that made MGS special Now I would settle for MGS 1,2 and 3 remakes done by bluepoint. If remakes are gonna take longer and more resources than atleast mixture of remaster/remakes with updated controls along with other improvements
The only place Metal Gear Survive belongs is in the bloody sea!
The fact that the author even thought that Kojima would ever get involved in a MGS game with zombies tells you more than enough... namely to skip the whole article. So how can a game be better off with out someone who would never want to have anything to do with it anyway is beyond me.
I agree with the title though. So this piece of shit greedy company can collapse and go bankrupt. That’s why they’re better of than Kojima.
Clearly, a zombie survival game is MGS' next natural evolution!
Well, all the bad guys are killed off, along with some snakes, so only way to rehash them is zombies....Or maybe the cloning thing which has been in the series for so long. At least kojimas approach didn't resort to something easy like having mindless undead
Zombies were in The Phantom Pain, So i don't know why you re not blaming Kojima for planting the seed. Also whenever COD announces that it will have a zombies mode everyone clamors about how great it is. But When MGS does it its terrible? OR maybe its terrible because its not Hideo that is promoting the zombies.
@gninja or maybe its that instead of putting effort into making a survival game, and using the Metal Gear as a foundation, they decided to use the worm holes to make an alternate timeline that doesn't line up with anything Metal Gear was about. Like they made the alternate timeline from MGSV, and instead of putting effort into continuing the MGS franchise in a new direction, they decide to add zombies. As for your comment about cod zombies vs MG zombies, there are two very distinct differences 1, cod zombies is an already established franchise within Cod and is built around their gameplay mechanics in a way that works. in MGSurvive, they take a series that was never about Zombies, and building structural defenses on the go with them and put that into the game, with some people stating the Fox Engine wasn't built for tower defense style gameplay, and because of that it plays worse.
How can anyone let this piece of shit article onto here?
This. I can respect a difference of opinion, but this is disingenuous. Kojima is a boss at reinventing his games, and even does well to match it with the theme (Big Boss in a jungle? I need camo, hunting, and first aid skills!). I don't understand the point the author hopes to make, but I disagree vehemently.
My point is that the Metal Gear series has always been so closely tied to Kojima, that allowing for new creative perspectives to take control could be a good thing! Emphasis on the "could be" portion :) Thanks for allowing in the differing opinion ;) lol
Plus1Attack, Yes, it "could be"--on this, we agree. But I don't share your optimism. The last time we let Konami make a Metal Gear without Kojima, we got Snake's Revenge. Yes, that was a long time ago, but Castlevania hasn't exactly been great without Igarashi either. And look at Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. That game was still in development when Kojima was let go. While Kojima still served as director, you knew immediately what was Konami's touch--the base insurance and login rewards, namely. Now, you have Metal Gear Survive which gives no bones about taking a weird series and finding a way to make it cringe-weird. On top of that, it doesn't offer any drastic gameplay evolution the way Kojima did. I give it the bare minimum of the benefit of the doubt since it's not a mainline game, but I hold very low expectations of Konami.
DarXyde, A lot of games in the Metal Gear franchise are actually not made by Kojima! "Out of the 23 games in the series, 12 of them do not feature Kojima as director" (from the article) Some of the games not made by Kojima have become personal favorites for how different they are. I talk about all that in the piece, but I can understand your hesitation! I'm not trying to say you're wrong, just throwing my opinion out there :)
Kojima's "contributions" to the Metal Gear series lol.. The franchise is literally a thing because of Kojima, especially the Solid series. There's always some dummies who wants to praise something new, just because it's new, so they try extra hard to force together their reasoning.
Hey KwietStorm! I just think a new perspective on the Metal Gear franchise could be really refreshing! We've had the series revolve around Kojima's sensibilities for over thirty years, which is crazy to think about! I don't think you're wrong in your skepticism, but I also think there's something exciting about the prospect of new leadership on this franchise is all :)
^but when that new creative leadership decides to fall back on Zombies is something to talk about. liek they had their escape route to reboot the series with the worm hole on mother base, why did they have to go the zombie route instead of ohh i dont know, a survival game based off of the likes of MGS3.
The franchise is not relevant anymore though. I can't even tell you what the name of the last game was. I did try the demo though and found it monotonous and boring. Metal gear survive sounds like an endless runner to me with little to no story at all.
Don't even waste your time reading this brain fart.
And look what is happening to metal gear now, metal gear survive looks terrible to say the least.
Because of zombies ?
because of everything in the game, every aspect of the game looks terrible, like in a very sad way.
It looks average. Metal Gear's not average.
Agreed. This should have been a new IP.
ahh it should, but then it wouldnt sell, specially with alot of the ps4 users not even being able to play the game without an update
Metal gear is finally becoming the game I always knew it could be... Poking zombies with a stick behind a fence till I get hungry... Smh /Sarcasm tag for those who couldn't tell
Maybe it's time to ice the franchise until further notice so it's not driven into the ground, and not remembered properly down the road.
The beta was ASS. poking zombies in the ass is not Metal gear solid.
Who said this was Metal Gear Solid?
The fricking TITTLE: METAL GEAR! AAAAHHHHHH
That must mean Rising & Ac!d are Metal Gear Solid games too/
Z501, the name of the game is Metal Gear Solid....BUT Konami killed MGS with this "fake" MGS Survive. . A Metal Gear without Hideo Kojima is NOT a MGS game.
This isn’t Metal Gear Solid Just like Metal Gear Acid & Metal Gear Rising, Metal Gear Survive is its own separate thing as a spin-off
Whether MGS/Survive is better without Kojima or not, I am not. I like his work and prefer his design. It wont be the same without him. Besides knowing the way they treated him, I won't buy their games anymore. Sorry, that ship has long sailed. Fuck Konami and everything they do.
Yeah clearly. How does the almighty Tactical Espionage Action series go from the highest and critically accllimed form of gaming to a cheap, multiplayer carbon copy of everything else? a zombie shooter.. of all things.. whoever wrote this article, screw you kid. Stay away from my Metal Gear.
The whole idea of Survive is probably a direct poke at Kojima, trying to ruin the name of a really well done series to spite him. Konami are hacks now. We all need to stay away from their bullshit.
Right. Konami is purposely trying to ruin the name of one of their most successful series of all time. Just to spite its creator. That makes tons of sense. Come on now. Konami sucks for what they did to Kojima, certainly. And this game looks like nothing more than a quick attempt at a cash grab by using the name. But I highly doubt they were all sitting around in a meeting and said, "Hey guys, you know what we should do to piss off Kojima even more? Lets spend a ton of money on a crappy game that probably won't break even in sales, and then slap the Metal Gear name on it. That way people lose even more interest in the series so it'll be harder to keep making them." Bone head decisions are one thing. A company purposely driving their most successful franchise into the ground and potentially losing tons of money in the process is another. Bottom line is that Konami thought they were making something great here, mostly because they probably don't understand what makes Metal Gear so great to begin with.
Konami knew what MGS was, and it wasn't an online, zombie survival game... Never has been. They make enough money from Pachinko to get a small dev team to throw out some bullshit, bad MGS tagged game just to try and stick it to Kojima. If they wanted to make money, they would have invested in a fresh new writer and continued the series as it was, not this half-arsed rubbish.
All it does? Is make me stay further, and further away. I recently started playing MGO3 again and osting videos of gameplay just too slightly wash away this whole MGSurvive thing, filthy casuals will buy it, those who mae the series what it was? won't. Hurts mang.
CorndogBurglar, Actually, I don't think the budget for this game was big at all. It recycles a lot of assets, doesn't feature any big name voice actors, used the already-created FOX Engine, and will probably focus on microtransactions. Don't forget, Snake Eater was remastered in FOX...with Pachinko. I wouldn't underestimate how petty Konami can be.
MGSV was not the highest of the series rather One of the lowest. Gameplay wise was high but story wise is low. MGSurvive is cash grab spin off.
PW is a much better game than 5
Oh no, I agree, and I never said it was. I actually hated V, as it just didn't feel like MGS anymore. The introduction was amazing, but they lost the plot and interest when it moved to an empty, bland open world and repetitive missions with little effective storytelling in between. But then again, Konami were already pushing for Kojima to quit while it was being made, so the quality fits the working environment at the time, rushed and messy.
totally agree- MGSV was completely lacklustre aside from a good portion of the gameplay itself, it just didn't feel like MGS, i think people need to grow up and realise things just don't stay the same forever, i've said it in the past too- it's unlikely Konami could have 'gotten away with' calling this game something else because of the same engine 5 uses. the tie ins and story they've pieced together for something that clearly isn't story focused, they're doubling down on what made MGSV fun and excluding the part they spent a ridiculous amount of money on in the first place- Kojima's story, and it's best thought of as a standalone fun dlc spinoff, plenty of series do it, and even the MG series has some spinoffs already- it's not like the series as a whole doesn't lend itself well to the supernatural, it IS supernatural at it's core. (beta was actually really fun with friends imo.)
One entry after five in the main, at least three side series, which had the man's input, and... No, no, I can't process that much stupid...
Konami will never be better off without Kojima San and Metal Gear as an i.p. will never be the same now that hes left. Furthermore, i would like to take the time to thank Konami for firing him so he could solidify a relationship with Sony and make Death Stranding, a 3rd party ps4 exclusive that looks to be possibly amazing!
It isnt third party.... Its second party. He exclusively signed a contract to make games just for Sony. Third party means developers like Ubi, EA ect ect ect.... Do your research
Of all i said thats what you dissagree with? Get a life
Technically he's not wrong. 2nd party is just a derivative term for a 3rd party game that is funded by a console maker, but made by a dev not owned by them. Could also mean that a publisher is funding a game not made by one of their studios.
"It isnt third party.... Its second party. He exclusively signed a contract to make games just for Sony. Third party means developers like Ubi, EA ect ect ect.... Do your research" You could have asked Paintedgamer why he used a colloquial Japanese title to refer to Hideo Kojima, despite the fact that in all probability he is not from that country..... You could have even asked him how he can say that Death Stranding looks to be possibly amazing despite no actual gameplay footage being shown outside what amounts to a couple of engine based cutscenes and trailers.... You could have even pointed out that despite the fact that Kojima is now free from the tyranny of Konami and that is a good thing, its questionable whether Kojima making games exclusively for one platform is a good thing for true gamers, as less people will get to enjoy his creations in the future if they do not own or cannot afford multiple systems and Playstation is not their first choice.... If you had of commented on any of the above I could have possibly understood, not agreed but understood. I would have thought you a LITTLE petty but could have understood where you were coming from. Instead You decided that the best course of action was to attack Painted Gamer over his use of the term "third party". Thank you. At least we all know the difference between first, second and third party developers now... ...and we also know that you ARE incredibly petty. Your comment is appreciated.
Rainslacker just gave a literal description of the term second party and he got disagrees... This site in a nutshell.
does the fact it's a PS4 exclusive add anything to it's value? only to Sony- keep that in mind.
Why yes, yes it does. If you only have 1 platform to focus on, that version is usually highly polished. + they are using the decima engine (an engine made the same month and year the ps4 was released Nov 2013). A new engine built from the ground up for games like until dawn "rush of blood", rigs, horizon zero dawn, and now death stranding. + when youre only developing for 1 platform costs to make the game are way down and it doesnt take as much time or man power to make it. Death Stranding was announced at the 2016 E3, and people have stated at the end of last year that there was already a playable ver of the game. Im thinking fall 2019 which would be nearing 2 years past said comment.
I'd say that it could if Sony is funding it. They tend to release good games, so there is some expectation of quality there. They have also shown to be willing to give developers more time when needed to finish their games.....something a lot of publishers don't do as they try too hard to get things out on a release schedule. So, while all those things above aren't exclusive to Sony, it does mean that the chances the game will be good are up there.
I can't even.......whatever.
"Kojima is better off without Metal Gear Survive" should be the story. Who would want their name tied to this piece of garbage.
You can stick my name on anything even a fucking nuke if I was getting paid for it .
Yeah, the tower defense, microtransaction simulator is great without Kojima.
I wonder if people still play that POS tacked on abortion?
And I'm better off not playing this game, go figure! :D
Looking at the bright side if kojima didn't leave konami we wouldn't be getting death stranding
To be fair, I would have wanted Kojima to continue making Metal Gear games. Maybe I will feel differently once they show something of substance for Death Stranding and not just a handful of cryptic-ass cutscenes. But Metal Gear has been one of my favorite game franchises since the original came out on Nintendo when I was a little kid. So the thought of never playing another Kojima-produced Metal Gear is kind of heart breaking.
We have to be honest here. Kojima took so long with MGS 5, that Konami forced him to release the game in its current state ruining the entire game and franchise... Well for me it did at least. I dont think I'll be ever to play another MGS game EVER again due to how they screwed up MGS V as a whole. I had such huge expectations for that game's villians, story and twists.... The game didnt deliver on any. I wished I never played this game. Always had this idea when I was younger of how Big Boss's story should be told when it came to Solid and Liquid. This isnt what I had in mind, not at all...
Yeah but the tradeoff is no silent hills... death stranding looks great but am reserving judgement till gameplay comes. PT was amazing
Won’t be buying this. Version look horrible mgs5 was the last mgs game I will ever buy and wait for death stranding to come out
Death Stranding won't be out until we've all passed away /s