Xbox One vs Xbox 360 – VGChartz Gap Charts – December 2017 Update

December 2017 is the 50th month of the Xbox One being on sale. In the latest month the gap grew in favor of the Xbox 360 by 547,534 units. In the last 12 months the Xbox 360 has grown its lead by 1.92 million units. The Xbox 360 currently leads by 1.05 million.

Both consoles launched in November. The Xbox 360 launched in November 2005, while the Xbox One launched in November 2013. The Xbox One has sold 36.37 million units, while its predecessor the Xbox 360 sold 37.43 million units.

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PhoenixUp37d ago

Even with Xbox One X out the Xbox 360 still sold better in the same timeframe, and it’ll do even more in its fifth year when the slim model and the Kinect released.

The gap will continue to grow and now there’s no more excuses to explain why

MakoD36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

"The gap will continue to grow and now there’s no more excuses to explain why"

Well, explaining the why is pretty simple, they are having a hard time competing while trying to reduce the cost of the Xbox service. Xbox was losing billions and billions, in 2007, after the wii was a hit and cash making machine... the Xbox Division was told to get to profitable status... they shutdown much of their internal game studios, the remaining studios were told to work on casual games so they could get the Wii casual crowd. Although the Kinect did well at first, all the remaining studios were working on Kinect titles.

So, couple the no exclusives games , with the whole always online stuff, plus the stupid Kinect stuff, plus all the back tracking stuff, plus being more expensive at release, plus all their other BS... they are pretty lucky to sell 30 million units. imo

The bigger problem is Windows Phone and UWP are failures and that is what the Microsoft Store has been built to sell... so what happens next... I don't know but I am not going to be like Band users, Games for Windows Live users, Windows Phone users, Zune users, Groove music users, Windows RT devices users, etc.... meaning not supported anymore or closed or abandoned.

S2Killinit35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

when MS will just use its vast resources to monopolize things next generation by dissolving console gaming into PC gaming, that way there is no need for them to change their strategy of focusing on providing better services as opposed to making games. So they are not worried in the least imo.

MakoD35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Hm. They had a monopoly in tech in the 90s, but not anymore.

They are focused on cloud services, not consumer hardware products, if that was your point I agree.

Transform35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Of course the RRoD plagued Xbox 360 'sold' better.

The vast majority of Xbox 360 owners bought 3,4,5+ duplicate consoles last gen - beyond the units Microsoft was finally forced to replace for free a year and a half after the Xbox 360 launched.

The Xbox One is somewhere in the 25-27 million range now - which is roughly the same rate as the first Xbox marketplace failure.

The fake vgchartz numbers in the past have been somewhat constrained by Microsoft at least releasing shipment to retailer numbers. They used to be forced to quickly and quietly pull back their fake Microsoft sales numbers when they would be caught claiming sales higher than actual shipment numbers.

With Microsoft too embarrassed to even release any numbers at all the little kid Xbox fanboy who makes up the fake vgchatz numbers is free this gen to nuts with his Xbox One numbers.

What is crazy about the Xbox fans clinging to the goofy 35 million number for the Xbox One is IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE.

The Xbox One is:

* Completely dead in Japan
* Has been outsold by the PS4 in the 5 to 1 range everywhere in Europe except the UK since launch
* And easily outsold by the PS4 in the US almost every month since launch

35 million Xbox Ones would mean the console is selling at half the rate of the 75 million selling PS4.

The Xbox One is not selling anywhere near half what the PS4 is each month worldwide. It is closer to a third or less each month. Which is roughly 25-27 million.

When a console is completely dead in two of the three major console market and in second to last place in monthly sales in the third ITS WORLDWIDE SALES NUMBERS ARE CRAWLING UPWARDS EACH MONTH.

Take NPD each month for the Xbox One and take on some extra and that is how tiny the amount the Xbox One is growing in each month worldwide.

Transform36d ago


I had no idea the little kid Xbox fanboy at vgchatz was still putting out his pathetically fake 'sales numbers'.

The Xbox One is selling at roughly the same rate as the first Xbox marketplace failure fifteen years ago.

Just like the first Xbox, the Xbox One is:

* Dead in two out of the three major console regions: Japan and Europe
* In the one region it is still alive it is getting outsold by the PS4 and Switch

The problem for Microsoft is there is no more RRoD to massively inflate its installed base numbers by tens of millions like there was with the failure plagued Xbox 360.

It is no accident the Xbox One flopped right back to original Xbox numbers when the diehard Xbox fanbase isn't going out and buying 3,4,5+ duplicate consoles like they did last gen.

PhoenixUp36d ago

Lolwut. Comparing those two consoles is ludicrous.

- Original Xbox didn’t sell over 30 million units like Xbox One
- Original Xbox had its official successor release after four years on the market
- At 9.94 million sold in Europe the Xbox One has sold more in Europe than every Nintendo console except Wii.

What world do you live in where 36+ million is a flop? Granted it’s not as high as its direct competition, but it’s higher than a lot of other gaming consoles.

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MakoD36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

"What world do you live in where 36+ million is a flop?"

Well, since the lost billions and billions on the original Xbox and the Xbox 360, at some point you have to get a return. Lets put it this way... the Windows Phone probably sold quite a few more then 36 million and WP7,8, and 10 are considered major flops. Microsoft can't compete and in the process have been running huge negative returns on the Xbox product/service, eventually you have to get a return.

The problem with Xbox is it's not separate anymore, the Xbox division was shutdown in 2015... the Xbox personnel were moved to the Windows Division. Phil was told to move the Xbox games and users to the Microsoft Store... this was done in 2016ish.

The problem with the store is primarily a place to buy UWP apps, the problem is the WP is dead and UWP is a mobile framework (more or less)... exactly how long do they keep the Windows Phone on life support? If they get rid of the Windows Phone, how long before they ditch UWP?

The problem is... lack of growth... and lack of profits. Sales of Xbox One are sliding off the cliff... and nobody is really interested in UWP or the Microsoft Store... hard to see how the build on that.

My problem with MS is... UWP, the bigger problem is they have know tied Xbox to UWP imo.

Here is the thing... MS would rather everyone just install Windows 10 on their PC and download games there from the Microsoft Store... the problem is... that isn't happening and probably never will. So... after 3 years (UWP) is on lifesupport... exactly when does Microsoft pronounce time of death.... and exactly what is the Microsoft Store good for at that point? Lots of overhead for something that is not their core. imo

PhoenixUp36d ago

I don’t own any Xbox console and never will, but I’d still not consider the Xbox One a flop by any stretch.

When you look at various actual flops in this industry you’d see XO doesn’t come close to any of them. In fact before the 7th gen selling more than 40 million was no where near a common thing for systems to do in the industry, and XO will cross that threshold.

Xbox One’s 3rd party is not lacking. It’s still receiving various big name multiplats, especially moreso than Switch.

MakoD36d ago (Edited 36d ago )


I don't necessarily consider the Xbox One a flop as to sales, I do consider the Xbox as a product from 1999 a financial failure. I actually own two original Xboxes and two Xbox 360s, and I owned both on launch day, although I did start to get out of that whole thing in 2012-2013.

Satya is da Cloud man, heck I am not even sure he cares about consumer based products at this point... most of the pure ones have already been shutdown or abandoned under Satay... ie Band, Zune, Windows RT/S, Windows Phone, Groove Music, Games for Windows Live, etc.

Which is why Satya was unwilling to commit to Xbox being a core of Microsoft, actually after he said this... he shutdown the Xbox Division in 2015, shutdown the Xbox Store in 2016... and moved everything to the Windows Division.

Looks like Phil is being give one last shot to convert the Xbox gamers into SERVICE users... through passes and eventually streaming... if that doesn't work.... well, Satya has a pretty clear history.

Dragonscale35d ago

And what world do you live in where xbone has sold 36+ million. It will be lucky to be at 30 tbh. The comparison is valid. Just because xbone is selling worse than the 360 doesn't make it not relevant lol. Xbone is currently around the original xbox sales.

PhoenixUp35d ago

@ Mako

Xbox released in 2001, not 1999.

@ Dragon

VGC had estimates that add up to that total and it seems reasonable. Another analyst recently also believes the total to be around that mark

It’s really ridiculous to honestly believe Xbox One hasn’t crossed 30 million by now

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PUBG35d ago


You're right, and I used to say this years ago, that Xbox 360 sales figures were heavily inflated by people who were buying multiple Xbox 360 consoles due to RROD. This generation, the numbers are actually real, and the Xbox One has proved to be a very reliable console. In terms of their sales this generation, you could say that they're having their best console cycle yet.

This generation things are also a bit different, as they have the Xbox App, which gives people the Xbox Live experience on PC, and it doesn't cost anything, so I'm sure that you have the odd PS4 and Steam user who also games on Xbox Live through that medium also.

81BX36d ago

Xbox one is doing great. Currently happy with the system.

goatking36d ago

Its doing terribly, just because you like the system doesn't change that the xbox brand is dying.

MakoD35d ago

The problem I see... is they are kind of wrapping it into the UWP Store platform... of course... everything they did for many years is scare customers away. Just my take... its not one thing that is causing this.

I sure in hell ain't buying a UWP game from the Microsoft Store for my PC... someone would have to be freaking nuts to do that. LOL

81BX35d ago

Dying? It's still selling well. Sure it's not the number 1 spot but it's doing enough to have another gen. Don't confuse your opinion with fact

MakoD35d ago


Microsoft said there is no more 'generations'. Second, 'selling well' is technically an opinion.

PUBG35d ago

@ MakoD

UWP is essentially Play Anywere, which means that you also get the Xbox One version, so I don't see the risk, unless you are just a PC gamer.

MakoD35d ago


The issue I see there is the MS Store was built to sell Uwp Apps...if they ditch windows phone...this leads to whether or not they ditch uwp...with leads to play anywhere...with also leads to the surface line...

So...if that played out....hard for me to envision satya keeping the Store for Xbox.....that and mixer are really there sole purely consumer devices left....satya has a clear history....chop. If they release a streaming service that might give xbox users a few more years of room.

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