The PS3 and the PS4 took it the next step by taking the gaming experience online. But the PS5 and the next Xbox console are going to a completely new level, that is if we are to believe the words of one legendary director.
Director talking out of his ass
They're definitely not going to be completely cloud based but Xbox did say that they're planning to launch a streaming service in 2019 2020, so you'd definitely have the option by then .
Being cloud-based is very nebulous. Cloud means many different things. I'd be surprised and saddened if they mean completely streaming services. I suspect that is not what the next step in console gaming will be. Cloud-based components to gaming though. That will occur. Most corporate computing will be moving to a cloud-based infrastructure. Gaming will follow suit to a degree.
I would have to see a link to Microsoft discussing this point...
its a statement to test the waters. that is all.
what makes you think so? big dev get early console specs 2 years before they launch. i could see what hes saying being a thing. 5g will change everything. it will give everyone 1gb+ speeds with 1ms latency, WIRELESSLY. if you dont see the potential in this i can see why you disagree with him.
i would be curious to know why people disagree with what i said.
@Blasphemy, yes developers get information on consoles in advance, he possibly has information on PS5 right now. However, its all under NDA contract, there's no way he could leak real information on these next consoles without Sony's lawyers filing a lawsuit against him within 10 seconds of making that statement publicly. Sony and Microsoft control information about next-gen consoles at a time like this, its not up to Tabata to tell us what PS5 will or won't be. So this is why we believe he's talking out his ass.
It will increase the mobile gaming space no doubt, but core gamers still won't give two damns about playing on a 5-inch screen.
I dont know I live in even my brand new fiber optics is still 5ms latency. It is faster than my 300mps comcast (which I dropped last month). But I dont see more than 10 percent with a 1gb coming soon. Unless every company upgrades AGAIN. And lower prices for the gigabit speeds. Because how many people are going to spend over 130$ for just internet connection?
because access? How many countries will have 5g? Who wins here? The internet providers who have been more outrageous with their pricing bundles every year. That's why no one wants digital. Ahh, you're a troll. "why? cloud gaming makes everything easier and less time consuming. you can get right into the game instead of waiting hours in line for it to release." No sane person says this. Hours in line for it to release? We arn't apple fans here.
Who is everyone?
maybe because everyone wont get 1GB+ speeds with 1ms latency
just wanted to update you on why what he is saying maybe a possibilty if these consoles launch around 2020 when 5g will become a thing. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
5g will be a thing in select cities within the infrustructure. More rural areas will not see 5g for many years after 2020. That said ill stick with ps4 and be done with gaming if this shit goes cloud.
My area right now barely supports LTE or 4G. Even 3G at points is sketchy. Not to mention consistency factors. One minute you're running perfect 4G and the next you're roaming. I'd also argue prices right now for such services aren't exactly pretty and data caps are a large hindrance.
why? cloud gaming makes everything easier and less time consuming. you can get right into the game instead of waiting hours in line for it to release.
4g isn't even available everywhere why would adoption of 5g be faster?
No thanks, I rather use the wi-fi connection over my LAN.
@blasphemy 4G LTE became available to install in 2009. At&t didn't start installing towers until 2011. Now look at At&t's 4G LTE coverage in the US 7 years after their first tower (red dots are LTE towers). 9 years after 4G LTE launch, still pathetic coverage. https://www.nperf.com/en/ma...
Xbox Two is the reason I'm skipping the XBox X
Yea... no thank you.
"Cloud Based" translated means "Online required". I'd hope both Sony and MS learned from XBone's mistake there...
Who here isn't connected to the internet???
Sony clearly hasn't. Save Data on PS4 short of a system to system transfer requires cloud storage via PlayStation Plus. PlayStation Now is connected to streaming and doesn't allow a full download. Even video content that was purchased on PS3, where it could be stored on the system, only allows streaming on PS4 with no download option. Avatars on PS3 allowed the user to download those avatars to the system for use by any account on the same system. PS4 did away with that, affiliating avatars with PSN accounts. Even most music which could be downloaded to the PS3 cannot be on PS4. It's actually quite odd after the beginning of this gen. People harking on Microsoft for having an "always online" stance. Sony even chirped in. Microsoft altered their stance and eliminated many of the always online policies. Yet Microsoft allows more content to be stored to their system as a result while Sony is pushing streaming alternatives left and right. It's also downright BS that one Xbox Live subscription on a Xbox One allows any users on the system to access cloud storage for their saves without the need to subscribe each account. Yet on PlayStation devices to use cloud storage all accounts need a PlayStation Plus subscription.
@TheUndertaker85. That's not true. You can back up save data to an external hard drive.
Don't worry. This isn't "News" or even a "Rumor". In fact, it shouldn't even qualify as an "Opinion" since Hajime Tabata isn't even quoted as saying any of this in the article. This is nothing but pure "Clickbait". Where's that tag N4G? 0_o
XBOX could be hypothesizing how difficult it would be to win back control of the game console market next generation. The XBOX One X could have had been a test to determine how many dedicated gamers they could win back. The momentum PlayStation has from the end of the PlayStation 3's cycle and the hit-the-ground-running PS4 will be near impossible for Microsoft to catch up to with an XBOX Two. In short, why would they pour hundreds of millions of dollars into a locally processed console when a cheaper cloud-based console delivers the same content? It's going to be one of the most exciting console generation reveals ever.
I agree, is just becoming financially impossible to release a console with current technology for less than $800.00. Sony electronic department was already working on 4K tvs on 2010. Sony's gaming department knew about the upcoming 4K tv but to save 💰 and keep the PS4 at $400.00 decided to come out and sell a 2010 gaming machine. If the PS4 Pro had come out instead with native 4K not pseudo, the console itself would of cost $600.00-$700.00 dollars. Proving, that continuing with console hardware it will only hold gaming back. PS Now, xbox game pass combined with PSN/Xbox Live can bring a low cost cloud/download tv experience without the need of outdated console hardware
@TheUndertaker85 "Save Data on PS4 short of a system to system transfer requires cloud storage via PlayStation Plus." I back up my PS4 save files on a USB drive. Did you not know this was possible?
Hopefully not, and I really doubt it. Maybe as an extra option (as is already the case with services like Xbox Game Pass and PlayStation Now), but not as a replacement for physical media.
Xbox Game Pass isn't a cloud based service, you need an Xbox console to take advantage of the service.
No, you don’t. Game Pass is available on Windows 10 for Play Anywhere games. No Xbox needed. How many times are you going to be corrected on this before it sinks in?
Fine you can play a few games on pc, it’s still not a steaming service.
Cloud based doesn’t necessarily mean streaming
@raider only play anywhere games work on pc via game pass. Lmao cloud based most definitely implies streaming
Cloud = streaming is an extremely limited view. It is hard to say what the Tabata is referring to as there are no direct quotes, but many have referred to cloud based as content delivery systems that goes along with the GaaS model.
@Razzer I think OP means you need HARDWARE to play the games. They aren't being streamed off the cloud. Just using Xbox as an example.
Why not, today's consoles needed a bloody ass upgrade to keep up with gaming. Do you really think Jurassic World Evolution, Iron Harvest, Final Fantasy 7 remake is going to work on og PS4/Xbox one. The answer is no; thus, it would prove why Sony/Microsoft needed to upgrade their consoles. It also proves console hardware is dead and buried
No, not at all.
No thank you.
Hell no Imma out if that's true
Where are you going lol?
Probably reading, questing with babe etc....
@Ittoittosai Nintendo is pretty much already there with the Switch.
"that is if we are to believe the words of one legendary director." Definitely not legendary in a good way...
Couldn't agree more.
I don't disagree with the sentiment of "cloud gaming" being the future for consoles, but it's still a 50/50 chance for it to be mainstream next gen and has a very slim chance of replacing physical media.
There will still be physical media next gen. Just that next gen digital media could finally overtake physical.
Given the average house hold has a connection of about 12-15mbps and some of that is satellite or hot spot wifi which doesnt deliver enough bandwith to do cloud gaming Im going to call it no where close to 50/50.
5g will change everything. dyor
@Blasphemy 5G won't be rolled out anywhere near completely when the PS5 and XB2 come out. They have to be fairly into the design process of those consoles already. They can't design them with the hope that a wireless technology, that has barely seen the light of data, will be deployed worldwide for the success of their new consoles.
All they need to do is stop drm and physical games are DOA.
Constant internet-connection is still a type of DRM, one that can't be stopped if the console turn into cloud-gaming machines.
That's what I mean, if you are able to install games on the hard drive and play them offline that would be amazing.
looking at his works, he was the director for 2 FFVII spin offs and FFXV (which i didn't really like), hard to call that legendary director.
well not all the world have Japan and USA smooth and high speed connection experience. its been than 10 years yet PSN services isn't worldwide experience at all and still can't access PS Now.
Dude lots of Americans like a seriously large portion dont have reliable internet. This is a pipe dream. Cloud gaming isnt going to be a thing for at least 15-20yrs unless ISPs get rid of data plans.
Well that was calture shock. but yeah nobody want drop in resolution because of connection.
Yeah america probably has worst internet infrustructure. Seeing as our FCC basically slacked off the push to deliver broadband to every home this uear i dont see it getting better. At my house its either satellite 25mbps 50GB for $100 month or i use unlimited data hotspot off ebay for $100 month at 10mbps. I can promise you that if they do this they will have a ton less players next gen. Not only withh people just not buy the hardware, they wont buy the games, and they wont be subscribed to some service. Everyone looses out. I understand physical games are slowly going to die eventually but we need another 10+ years for it to be viable. Right now i just dont see streaming games in 4k 60+fps with no lag being mainstream enough to make that big of a jump next gen.
Ajit Pai lost that battle rather quickly. No, the term "broadband" as it legally applies to American internet coverage won't be dumbed down to lower bit rates, or to include mobile networks after all.
@Cobra Nice to hear i will research it. Last i heard Ajit wanted the mobile networks to be considered sufficient enough to say high speed broadband was availiable to all americans.
Yeah not likely given the fact more more ISPs in the states are putting in data plans and caps for internet use. Not to mention the push back that will happen.
In many places, data caps are pretty reasonable. Here while Comcast isn't great, their data cap is still 1TB which the vast majority of people don't run up against.
Here, Spectrum (formerly TWC) contractually can't impose data caps until 2023. Comcast is awful, at least in the two states nearby. I'm so very glad to have two competing real-broadband ISPs here (neither of them Comcast). Competition is the only way to get a fair shake as a consumer, and that is so lacking in most American ISP markets..
Broadband simply isn't ever going to be reliable enough to take the place of physical hardware hosting games in people's homes. It's too much of a gamble when platform holders know the hardware based business model works and they know gamers will buy a system and buy games for it. It's what has worked and what continually works each generation. Maybe cloud gaming can be an addition to consoles, pc, mobile etc, but it won't be the main place people play their games.
Agreed. I could see there being the option to stream games instead of buy the hardware. But the vast majority are going to buy the hardware.
Steam dreams of consoles shooting their collective legs off.