The Vg tilt evaluates the question with an indepth analysis of Microsoft's business model going into the crucial shopping season ahead.
MSFT is in a GOOD posistion. But, They were in a good posistion LAST YEAR and GOT OUTSOLD. They were in a GOOD posistion the YEAR BEFORE and GOT OUTSOLD. So.....
I think Gears of war will help microsoft sell about 300,000-400,000 more consoles,but when you look at the much larger picture;The highest selling console of last-gen(Ps2) beat the competitors by over 90 Million consoles in sales....
Sony does not really make anything that sells cheap. TV expensive, stereos expensive but they still sell because it is a top brand. It might not sell as many as cheaper brands but some people are willing to pay for quality. The economy might hurt them a bit in the US but they are focusing on the world. MS has a good thing going with their price point and it will surely help them. Sony is tracking sales 30% higher than they forcasted and they are happy with that. Who wins the holidays? Nintendo.
This article is just straight DUMB written by a known Sony fanboy. Don't even waist your time reading this nonsense as he's logic is "surprisingly" wrong and bias. Let's save this discussion to a real information source. And whoever approves articles like this should be re-evaluated.
Even if they were outsold they're gonna survive for a bit longer than i usually expected. I mean no doubt Sony will win in the long run, They own many IP's, but MS have been very intending to win and take down Sony in whatever they do. I kudo's them for that intention. But the method they're using (stealing exclusives/separating from GOOD game companies) is stupid. They won't last that long but long enough they still keep that momentum they made.
Sony fanboy? You do realise who you're name calling right? Siligon is unbiased. I've noticed this for a long time now.
@faiizow did you just say that last sentence in your head with a straight face ?
Sony Fanboy? Silogon? Have you seen him flame Sony? He'll go after either companies throat. OnTopic I feel the arcade isn't the greatest of the consoles, but for people who just want to play their games, it's fine.
Yeah you would be surprised that in recessions people aren't always attracted to "cheap" products as they are to good quality ones. Recessions makes consumers pessimistic about what they purchase. So if they feel that the Xbox isn't of a good build quality that lasts it mightn't sell that well. I'm sure consumers will consider their options with regards to all three consoles and their relative pros and cons summing up both features in comparisson to their price.
short answer. yes long answer. yes if sony dont drop the price.
what happened to 2008 being the year the 360 dies ? I remember all the naive , and pretty blind people on N4G who were predicting the death of the 360 in 2008.And the hundreds of "360 is dead" , "2008 is Sony's year" and bla bla bla articles. Its funny that now people actually think and expect the 360 to outsell the ps3 this holiday season. Cant believe people were stupid enough to think MSFT was just going to sit there and do nothing and that Sony was magically going to takeover thanks to things like Home(nobody seems to care about it anymore) , Resistance 2(people finally gave up thinking it could compete with Geow2)and all the former exclusives(FF13 , Tekken 6 , Star Ocean 4).Funny how in a couple of months things have changed. Wheres GT5 ? , FF13 ? KZ2 ? 8 days ? La Noire ? Where are all the ps2 gamers who were magically supposed to all upgrade to PS3 because of loyalty ?Why do multiplat games still look and run better on 360 ? Where are all the "analysts" who were predicting that the PS3 was going to leave the 360 in the dust ? 2008 aka Sony's year was great for MSFT (and all 360 gamers) and its not even the end yet lol.
This guy says he's "in the know" but he doesnt even seem to know that the hddless 360 is called the 360 arcade not the "core" He also points out the ps3 being an up scaling dvd player but doesnt seem to know that the 360 can also upscale dvds. Then says MS is going to lose cause they are going to make more money by sell the extras for the "core".
Wheres Alan Wake, Halo Wars and Splinter Cell? Multi plat games run better on PS3 now Why do you still pay annual fees for LIVE? Why are 360 hard drives stupidly over-priced? WTF happened to HD DVD? Why are there STILL constant RROD issues? WTF is up with that too human 10 year flop? and why are you still alive?
I agree Genesis. Nintendo already won this war.
@Genesis5 Just wanted to point oout that Sony is not such electronics top brand, not bashing PS3 here guys, saying that if you want a top TV you go to Pioneer, a top A/V Amplifier, Denon, Yamaha, Marantz, top speakers KEF, B&W of even higher, videocams or photo Canon Nikon, there are many many higher and better brands in electronics specially audio & video, Sony is ubiquitous and has powerful brand value, due mainly to loads of quality products inthe 80s, but those times are over, there are specialized brands that do better than the all powerful mighty megacorp. Jack of all trades master of none. Though I agree that Nintendo is who is going to win Xmas big, MS and Sony will do good in the markets that they usually do good, I do not expect a big switch unless Sony makes an unexpected price cut.
"Multi plat games run better on PS3 now" No they don't liar "Why do you still pay annual fees for LIVE?" Because we get perks better and more services and expect the best unlike you. "Why are 360 hard drives stupidly over-priced?" Can't answer that but what's expensive to you might not be expensive to everyone else. "WTF happened to HD DVD?" They lost but thats not important nor is bluray because it's suppose to be about games and not movies. "Why are there STILL constant RROD issues?" Prove it and then tell me why there are still faulty PS2's out there "WTF is up with that too human 10 year flop?" Great game that probably sold more then most PS3 titles "and why are you still alive?" I'm not Lachance but will say that this question was uncalled for and shows how pathetic you are. Now my question to you is what's your point because you didn't prove anything? You sound like the typical ps3 fanboy throwing a tantrum because you don't like to loose.
lmfao, what happened to hd-dvd, ask toshiba as it was theirs not MS. I bet you're one of those people who say MS paid paramount $150mil as well. but why let facts get in the way seeking attention.
PS3 titles (all ps3 titles) outsold too human.
yes there are blind sony fanboys out there but there are blind ms fanboys to. you should kno better than to try and judge everybody by the small number of idiots. dont forget that there was ms fanboys sayin that the ps3 was gonna fail ever since launch and still say it now. anyway the year aint over yet and i expect a price cut in at least the us. not really needed anywhere else because the ms isnt that effective. im sure sony are happy with what there sellin at the price there sellin in europe even if the 360 is out selling it at a average of about 20,000 a week so far. price drop will do little in japan. they jus need games. and btw because ms will outsell the ps3 in the holiday season (if sony dont price) the ps3 will should expect to outsell the 360 worldwide for the year.
swordfish you seem to forget the sony fans saying that the 360 was dead before it started and would sell less than the original xbox then running around quoting sony spin (still are) saying the ps3 will sell 5mil without any games and they had already won. Don't believe me, what did the say about ninty before the wii was released? Proven history of it so using the but you guys said it first that some sony fans on here like to doesn't wash as it's the sony fans that were the ones to actually say it first about everyone going back to the n64
yes youre right. im not tryin to say one set are fanboys are worse than another. im jus sayin that theyre jus as bad. il admit i thought the wii woulodnt last that long and do as well as they are doin now. i dont like the wii but i have respect for them for doin as good as they have. i mentioned what ms fanboys have said in response to lachance and i made it clear that there are fanboys in both camps but dont judge every person that like sony as fanboys as i dont for people who like ms.
I do see your point but i have to say the ps fans are far worse. After winning two gens and growing attached to the brand and sony has bred a level or arrogance. Not help by the sony spin. Look at this site. Read the comments hugely pro sony anti everything else. Don't tell me its 50:50 between sony and ms fans (don't know where the ninty fanboys are) because its not. The high level of ms hate by sony fanboys on here means that ms fanboys do respond in kind but the numbers are smaller. if it was mainly ms fans on here i do doubt they would be as bad but dont doubt worse than now and the sony club would be responding like the ms lot are now as they shouldn't have to take that sort of treatment. Saying but before ms fans said this is bull as it started with sony fans before the original xbox was out and sony was already in first place. It would be nice to have conversation's on here but not possible due the constant attacks and counter attacks. ms fans are not as bad as sony fans... that might change.
Since there is lots of question asking going on, i have one for you. Where are all your bubbles? Does it maybe have something to do with the quality of your posts? I am sure those 26 ignores should tell you something too.
As much as I would like to just facepalm this article and move on, I feel the need to point out why. It's not so much his poor logic, (some people do just want to play games and that's it and you can do that finew with an arcade), obvious bias (PS3 cost a "little more", try double), or jingoistic style - I have a lot of practice dealing with that on N4G on a daily basis. No, it's really the fact that this article reads on a level of what you would expect if you were a 7th grade teacher and assigned your class a creative wrting assignment and one of your lower-to-mid tier students turned this in. You would give them a C- and hand it back. But that would be for a lower-to-mid tier 7th grader! I assume this hack is an adult, and as such, he ought to possess a greater than 7th grade education/writing level. If only I could have those two minutes back.
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Of course they are the pricecut will mean the only competition for them this year will be the Wii And Fable 2 and Gears 2 are guaranteed to be the biggest sellers this holiday season
Sorry, but LBP will be battling it out with Geras, not Fable.
Hahahahaha. Fable 2??? That's going to have about as much impact and Ninja Gaiden II did. Gears of War 2 though . . . that is an 800lb gorilla. However, I think Resistance 2 will be just as good if not better, so if Sony would just start freaking advertising, they would be much better off. I think LBP will be the most popular item of the year though and really drive PS3 sales. I mean, did you see the frenzy over Beta Codes??? Gears 2 is the only game that can beat it. I am getting both! Oh, and WII wins all.
It will not be the highest sold game this holiday season, for obvious reasons, LBP, trust me it will sell more than the first Gears and i can guarantee it, and you know why, is because it goes for both Casual and Hardcore gamers, unlike gears which is just hardcore mainly, also you have to realize that Blue Ray movies like the Black Knight will be releasing this holiday season, and trust me Batman Fans will get this on Blue Ray and most likely they will pick up a PS3, now if the PS3 bundles with a Dark Knight movie Microsoft is Pwned
Isn't comparing Gears and LBP like comparing apples and oranges? They are two totally different genres, and while i think they will both appeal to some people i think these two games will ultimately appeal to different crowds because LBP is more of an "all ages" game, while Gears is not.
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For once I agree with you eric. The fact he is arguing for the PS3 this holiday makes him a baboon beyond measure.
They won't win as big as the Wii, but they'll outdo Sony! The financial crunch works in MS's favor. You want a game system for Christmas, but you need it cheap? The Arcade 360 is a safe bet, especially since RROD is dead.
Did you just make your own blog and then contribute it to n4g? OMG man. You are lame. Lame lame lame loser. I suppose it would be ok if someone else had contributed this, but the fact that you wrote it and then propagated it by your own submission is ... uncool! Is there anything more shameful than the blatant narcissism and self promotion that YOU exhibit? Let me guess. You are also a lead guitarist, right? ok. That figures.
I think there price point will be the major factor. As far as games goes, no matter what people say, I own a 360 and I know the only good games this year on 360 were multiplatform games. Plus the 360 exclusive released so far (Too Human, NG2) were lackluster. There are only two exclusive games (Gears 2 and Fable 2) that are worth getting on 360 this year. PS3 despite all the great games is still expensive when compared to 360 and Wii. I wouldn't be surprised if 360 manages to outsell ps3 this holiday season. But that won't be because of games, it will be because of price point.
I agree. But I'm more pumped about Fable 2, And Fallout 3 more than any of the other games coming to us. I'm hoping a demo of LBP gets put out though. (wasn't lucky/motivated enough to get into the beta.) Playstation will have it's day soon.
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Silogon is the author....and we all know how credible he is :I
Yes wtf is up with that? What a piece of garbage.
lol at all the bots reporting because its a blog
That's all I'm saying Personally, I don't mind blogs in general. People pass off blogs as news everyday here. Sometimes it's good. However, it also means that any random porkwad that believes they can write and/or thinks they are informative can post up nonsense and pass it off as news as well.
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lame article didn't even get the name wright xbox 360 core, meaning the arcade version I guess. " 70% of new xbox 360 owners this holiday will adopt the "CORE"" where did he get that information the arcade or core xbox 360 never sold very well.
This is not news it is a blog by a fanboy. He says "Microsoft isn't going to beat Sony this year on software. We know this. Sony has the better software exclusives this Holiday and if they don't have it exclusive they have it multi platform" to get some facts out there, these are this holidays console exclusive. 360 Saints Row 2, Fable 2, Scene it! BOS. Gears 2, Banjo N&B, Lips, Your in the movies, Left 4 Dead, Last Remnant. PS3 Socom, LBP, Motostorm PR, Sing Star vol2 and Abba, Resistance 2, Legend of Spyro. If I have missed any, please post them. Both consoles have good games this holiday, there is no point saying one system or the other has the better line up this holiday, sales will tell us which machine had the most atractive line up, so lets wait and see.
I think you actually do have to be a fanboy to try and argue that 360 has a better lineup than PS3 this year like your doing (unless you just really really hate PS3 games). By the way, Saints Row 2 is on PS3 as well. PS3 - Resistance 2, Little Big Planet, Motorstorm 2, Socom Confrontation, and Valkyria Chronicles. 360 - Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Last Remnant (coming to PS3 also), Banjo Kazooie 2. Rest are all multiplat's (except for scene it games and singing games, lol, but seriously).
@Imallvol7 You are a really big fanboy.... Just accept that the xbox360 is the better gamingconsole and ps3 is just a gadget with to less games but with a blue ray player. BTW: Resistance is a good game, its not my type of game.. way to clean and it feels weird. But its a pretty good game. But you cant compare it to GoW2 .. GoW2 is like the best game coming out end 2008 ... resistance is lucky to be in the top 20
@ Imallvol7 I am not saying that 360 has the better line up I am just pointing out that the 360 does have some good exclusives, I keep reading that it has nothing this holiday. It is up to the consumer to decide. I am very interested to see if LBP is a system seller or not.
Aeh ... Scene It == Buzz Quiz Lips == Singstar You are in the Movies == Everything PS Eye. But with one thing you're right. Nothing T or E coming, like Sly Cooper or so...(competing against Banjo). Oh, well, forgot LBP might fall into this.
I think the 360 has better games this holiday. Why? because the ps3 ones don't appeal to me and whats best is subjective to a persons preferences and likes. no-one can tell whos is best only that 1 line up is better for them. their fanboyism gets the better of them or maybe its the inability to comprehend that there are gamers who aren't interested in their games which is why we get lots of ps3 fans on here saying the ps3 has the best line up and the 360 has no games this holiday. now if ps3 fans want the old "you dont have any games" line maybe they should stop using it. Its good to see 360 fans saying I prfer this and standing up for themselves.
Emmo saints row 2 is multiplat. And there is point in saying "sony's line up is better" in fact much better. You know why? Be cause it's true. You can't even compare those 2 exclusives with lbp let alone the rest. The thing is you dont need to get sad or deny the truth, that makes you fanboy. Just enjoy what you got. geow2 and fable2 gonna be great.
@ Lets-Game Thanks for the correction. All I am saying is that it is not my opinion or your opinion that matters, at the end of the day all that will matter is sales numbers. The public will decide. Who knows which will be the massive sellers and the flops or even the most underated games.
The sales numbers are for accountant and people in here. But at the end what counts is what games we'll get. And I can't complain there isn't anything available now or in the future. Plenty of stuff here and plenty to come.
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the guy clearly knows what he's talking about when he mentions the dvd upscailer in the ps3 like thats an advantage when the 360 has that and it's better. /fail sonys line up is only better if those games appeal to you. dont to me. And if we're talking about winning the holiday season then you can only judge which line up is better on sales. wonder who that would be going of trends this gen?
No matter what he says, he'll alwyas be...Silogon. ;) lol @ the guy who said Fable 2 & Gears 2 will be the top sellers this holiday season...I agree with Gears 2, but Fable 2? You really think thats gonna sell more than LBP? Really?! Or than Resistance 2? Bah...
After the sucess of the first game. I'm buying Fable 2 and Renting Gears on Gamefly for 2 months. Also renting LBP unless the demo changes my mind.(into not renting it.) I have no interest in Resistance 2 whatsoever. It won't be worth more than 5 minutes of my attention just like the 1st.
MS will win by price alone... Games are a plus... With everything MS has now and coming and everyone already owning a Wii... Xbox will Shine... I Think the PS2 will out sell the PS3 again. But LBP will be a System Seller.. 1. Xbox 360(Price) 2. Wii 3. PS2 (on Price alone) 4. NDS 5. PS3 6. PSP
Xbox will most likely have Fable 2, Gears 2 and Fallout 3 sold along side of it this Xmas. While PS3 will have LBP, Resistance 2 and Fallout 3 next to it under the tree. Prince of Persia will probably replace Gears, Resistance and Fallout according to the age of the recipient. But this is my prediction for xmas bundles.
And a diary in the internet somebody should take away his license to post considering you don't see anyone else here doing that to promote there own website!.
This site has changed to B4G. Blogs 4 Gamers.
The advertising alone has won it for them... Them adverts I see every break on every TV channel has the X-box 360 £129.99 commercial... They are taking 360 to the limit and its paying off... They have dethroned Sony big time this gen... Game over for Sony... They will soon be the next Sega
Sony needs to advertise like crazy, they have a lot of good titles coming out, and of course, they have their major flagship title LBP. LBP appeals to pretty much everyone and they need to advertise the crap out of it. Resistance 2 probably appeals to the FPS crowd, but it doesn't have the WoW factor just yet (they need to show those massive bosses and get the hype ball rolling). No doubt Gears 2 will be awesome, fable 2...not so much, but that's just a matter of opinion. M$ is taking all the right steps, they are currently rocking Japan, it seems sony is a step behind. But don't worry, once LBP planet hits, along with resistance 2, and the release of HOME...it's just a matter of time now...
A very mass market price at a time when money is tight. A great software lineup for the holiday with their already exisitng massive library that beats the other systems, great online service that is growing and expanding massively with the NXE update and a huge marketing push. I would say without a doubt yes. This blog post by some nobody is complete fanboy trash.
Heres how i See it LBP is gona be huge with the bundle for LBP it will sell more ps3s than the ps3 was planed to sell i also believe if Home does in fact come out on this Rumored Nov 19 Release that will help i do think the ps3 does have a shot to over pass the xbox also Rember Dark Knight Comes out Dec 9th on blu Ray and im sure many people will be buying blu ray players for that and im sure people may actaully buy a ps3 for a blu ray play i know sevral friends who are looking to get a ps3 and have a blu ray player to Get Dark Knight.
short awnser: yes long awnser: hell yes
MS has a very good chance to beat PS3. I would think it more fair if PS3 actually advertised.