Sony Corporation released its financial results for the third quarter of fiscal year 2017, giving an update on PS4 shipments.
Excellent PlayStation nation
Sony will probably ship 80million ps4 in March of this year which is ridiculous to think about for a system that's a bit over 4 years old. By this time next year they'll most likely be at 100million ps4.
I really hope Sony and their business model continues to win in a time when Microsoft is taking some steps that I fear may not lead to a better future for console gaming (to be sure no body knows). So, here's hoping that Sony's time honored approach of providing great gaming experiences continues to win. Good job Sony, and good luck.
Jaguar 100 million easy. They sold 20 million 2017, just think how Spiderman among others will explode sales.
Across all nations
Like world domination
$3.2billion in operating profit for the quarter, they financially turned that ship around. They keep making good products, I will keep buying.
HA! beem hearing its been 80 million by the bois WTF?
That means there were 2.9 million PS4s on store shelves just waiting to find a new home by the end of 2017.
And it looks like they ll all be sold in a few weeks.
With the release of MHW, at least half of those have been sold already.
Last quarter: PS4 - 9 million shipped Switch - 7.3 million shipped Xbox One - 6 (?) million shipped
6 million x/y controller movements per minute in PUBG. ;)
Ok not gonna lie I lol'd, that was pretty good
Xbox One sold about 7 to 8 million for the hold year so 6 million sound way to much for them.
So PS4 must ship 2.5 million this quarter (4th quarter of FY2017) to meat forecast of 19 million shipped for FY2017, which would put PS4 at 79 million shipped by March 31st. Last year they ship 2.9 million, so it will reach 2.5 million no problem.
they shipped 700,000 less consoles last quarter then they did the year earlier, which is putting the Hardware division in a 10% decline. If we see further declines then 10% this quarter it might not hit the 2.5million your are suggesting.
Haha. That downplay. Good old Krib.
Time to take a Business Class.
Did you miss the part where their hardware sales are already up YoY? How convenient of you.
Um... you clearly don't know how to math. Assuming that this quarter exhibits the same 10% decline, a tenth of 2.9 million is 0.29 million. Subtract that from 2.9 million and you get 2.61 million. Sony will still exceed the forecast.
Incorrect. Take a refresher course in Math, then try again.
You might not have realized you're in a Playstation article, you guys claim you never troll those so, troll elsewhere. Unless you're just here to collect down votes as usual than mission accomplished.
@aura and Trooper you guys telling me about my math skills, really you need to work on your reading comprehension skills “If we see further declines then 10% this quarter ” Further declines
Aura gave you a much detailed math which you failed to do, so yeah. You got pwned
If you bother to read the article you will see, clearly, they shipped more hardware this year. Not that it matters, they are obliterating the competition.
@aura and i showed him why his math as it pertains to my comment is wrong. I said “if it declines further” So yes, he detailed math is correct if i stated “with a 10% decline they won’t hit their estimate” .But if you used proper reading comprehension you would see i said if it declined more then 10% they may not hit their goal. IF it’s more then 10%. More Then
You are pathetic.
More "THAN" FFS you cant even grammar.
Nowhere it says “further decline” fool. You are actually putting that in the wrong context. This is what you are most likely referring to: “Sales are expected to be lower than the October forecast primarily due to the impact of a change in launch dates of certain software titles, as well as the impact of higher-than-expected sales of hardware at promotional prices during the holiday season. The forecast for operating income remains unchanged primarily due to a reduction in selling, general and administrative expenses, substantially offset by the impact of the above-mentioned decrease in sales.” They are talking about sofware revenue being lower at the en of the quater and their expected harware forecast still remains the same.
Don't be mad Krib. I'm sure MS appreciates your support :)
@Aspiring Lime said “ Last year they ship 2.9 million, so it will reach 2.5 million no problem” To which I suggested that if we see further declines then 10% this quarter they could not hit their target. I didn’t say it will do that. I didn’t reference the article. I Suggested that if they saw further declines this quarter, and if it was more then the previous quarters decline of 10% it would not hit the target of 2.5 million this quarter. “IF”. I swear you guys need to learn to freaking read 🤦♂️
You are not helping, kirbwalker. Like I said, both of us look into abyss but you blinked. Besides, PS4 is getting close to 80 millions units.
Lol but you are still predicting a further decline based on nothing. And even with that drop happens Sony will meet teh forecast. Next time you want to have a counter argument, have the facts and not imaginations. And @Arura did read clearly what you said. He said “assuming **This Quarter** exhibits the aame decline...” Imma be fair with you and say you got me there. I thought you were talking about the article, but again your “further decline” is nothing but a dream
@Kribwalker The last quarter of the calendar year tends to be more volatile than the other three quarters. This is because during the holiday season, hardware sales are more driven by how low the hardware's price is. In contrast, hardware sales in the other three quarters are more value driven since special deals are a lot less common. I would take a gander that the PS4 will have less than a 10% YOY drop this quarter and here are the reasons why. Monster Hunter World shipped 5 million and in the UK, the XB1's 2nd best market, the PS4 version took up 72% of the sales. In Japan, the PS4 experienced the 2nd best selling week. Dragon Ball FighterZ shipped 2 million and the PS4 version took 78% of the sales in the UK. Shadow of the Colossus is coming up in a few days and it's high up on Amazon's best seller list.
Lime made a hypothetical statement claiming it would have no problem hitting that number based off of last year. I made a hypothetical statement that if it saw a decline like the last quarter and it was greater then the 10% it would not. That’s it. We were both making hypothetical statements. you guys just took offence to mine
Kribwalker, You don't disappoint. Like clockwork. I love that your emphasis is on the worst case scenario for PlayStation. I'm unsure if you're a cynic or a hater. My question is this: what exactly is the statement you were hoping to make? That Sony might not make their shipment projections? Does your pessimism bring light to your darkness? This actually sounds like something Greenberg might say. P.S., you should be more humble about discrediting the comprehension of others, especially when you are likely an adult who still cannot fathom the difference between "then" and "than"; you literally quoted yourself and didn't even correct it.
@Kribwalker Dissent does not equal to taking offense. In addition, I stated some reasons why the PS4 will likely not exhibit a significant decline to support my conclusion. You had a good opportunity to offer your rebuttal, but you seem to prefer pointless posturing.
@ Krib "The company also provided a I of the results of the Games & Network Services business segment, which is the combination of PlayStation and PlayStation Network. While PS4 shipments were 0.7 million lower than during the equivalent quarter in fiscal year 2016, actual revenue was considerably higher (with a 16.2% growth) due to an increase in software sales, including sales on PlayStation Network. The increase in sales also caused a significant boost in operating income, from 50 billion yen to a whopping 85 billion yen. Looking at Sony Corporation as a whole, you can find revenue and income figures below. As you can see, all the relevant numbers are firmly in the black, and significantly improved year-on-year. Oprating income saw just south of a 280% boost." Now stop it.
He can't, it's an involuntary action. . . . . Without a head start ms didn't have much at all. . They've got their fans signing the same tune of exclusives not being import in various ways. What they haven't realised is that they don't need to appeal to their die hards. . They need to appeal to the defectors, undecided the ps and Nintendo owners. . .more Xbox owners own ps's and switches as their second consoles than the opposite. . Not because ps and Nintendo fans are inbreded but because there just hasn't been enough reasons to jump in. Relying on multiplat superiority isn't enough for the masses. . Just look at the disparity of sales. . You think that's still down to mixed messages or price. . . Lol
Lmfao!! Krib got absolutely owned!! Hahaha!
No wonder MS treat the fanbase like they do, good ol' Krib and the rest of them constant damage control, they talk more about Sony and PS4 then they do MS and Xbox.
Playstation True Force of Nature.
By the end of 2017: - PlayStation 4 shipped 76.5 million units - Switch shipped 14.86 million units - 3DS shipped 71.99 million units It’s a shame we don’t have shipment numbers for Vita and Xbox One though.
i’ve been sitting on pins and needles waiting to see sales numbers for the Turbo Graohics 16, like come on guys, please share them so we can argue about sales....... Here’s what you need to know fallen Xbox Hardware sales increased by 14% last quarter.
This is what you need to know. Last year Xbox One ended in last place in US, UK, Japan, Spain, France, Italy, Germany,...behind PS4 and Switch, and it will be in last place by the end of gen.
Last quarter: PlayStation revenue - 6.5 billion USD Xbox revenue - 3.9 billion USD
Here's what you need to know Krib PS4 sold more consoles in Q4 than Xbox sold all year.
Xbox had their worst full year in the US(their strongest territory) last year despite an uptick because of a new console. Not exactly a great look.
@ashlen I think you might be right. I didn't realize the gap was that high. What are the numbers like PS4 close to 8.8m sold in Oct-Dec, and Xbox One around 8.5m for 2017?
Then you say you are not fanboy. Not very convincing.
Here's what you need to know, the switch will over take the xbox one soon. The kicker, Xbox one is out now for more than 4 years.
@Kribwalker Xbox hardware revenue increased by 14%, not hardware sales. In addition, Microsoft launched the XB1 X during that quarter which would obviously take home more revenue. However, you can only launch a console once. After that, you need to make sure that the sales performance can be maintained.
It's obvious MS is withholding numbers because of the sheer gap between PS and Xbox. But to suggest that Xbox is not profitable or not doing well, or even more foolishly, that it's irrelevant is just plain silly.
I definitely need numbers so I can enjoy these games.
@aura they also were selling the OneS which took majority of their console sales for about $60-100 less then last year at the same time. So they had added revenue with the onex but lost revenue on each sale of the OneS. And the OneS again outsold the OneX. And last year the OneS was selling quite well
Okay? So what? Does that mean more games are coming or what?
@Septic "But to suggest that Xbox is not profitable or not doing well, or even more foolishly, that it's irrelevant is just plain silly. " Actually, there is nothing to suggest the Xbox as a Service is profitable, which is why they 1st resorted to hiding numbers when there was a Xbox division from their own investors. By them getting rid of the Xbox Division in 2015, and getting rid of the Xbox Store this probably saved them money... as did closing a good portion of their internal game studios in 2007-2016.... they are probably losing less money but now that the Xbox division doesn't exist and those services now reside in the Windows division, its probably impossible for them to know. Xbox as a service, profitable..... most likely not.... losing less then before they shutdown the Xbox Division probably. Less overhead and no to limited internal game development costs. https://www.destructoid.com... They were losing huge amounts money even when the Xbox 360 was selling quite well.
I really dont understand why Microsoft and its fans love to spin and find victories where there isn't. 2017 was horrible in terms of sales and presense and the brand went backward. The brand isnt as irrelevant as some are claiming but its close. Releasing a new hardware that was announced a year before release and not winning on that window is as bad as it gets in terms of presence and clearly shows a decline for the brand. Now it's " X sold more than Pro this holiday. 14% hardware increased last quarter" i mean....the console released in november so it was expected to sale better than the PRO and increase hardware. What wasnt expected by many of us is the fact that it didnt win nor make a big statement sales wise this holiday and looking at Amazon in all big gaming markets worldwide, the PRO is seliing better than the X in january. What will be the next spin or victory? They have the best hardware and said they'd focus on software, thats a win to me but at this minute, things aren't improving in terms of presence/sales worldwide.
Xbox hardware REVENUE up 14%, primarily due to the launch of Xbox One X. https://www.vg247.com/2018/... Liar.
@trooper For the Xbox there is limited exclusive games because they shutdown a good portion of their internal game studios between 2007-2016. The reason is the massive red ink. There have been no real announcements of Microsoft building new studios or even acquiring others.. even if they did... and a new studio was brought up... it takes 3-6 years to bring build a new AAA IP, generally. Of course, the rumor of Fable being developed now by a Forza developer is possible as there is also the possibility of them buying titles like they did MInecraft... but as far as building games... what they have is what they have. As far as Sony... Detroit, Shadow of the Colossus, Spiderman, Days Gone, God of War, Shenmue III, MLB 2018, etc in 2018. Probably The Last of Us II, Dreams, Concrete Genie, Ghost of Tsushima, Death Stranding, Wild, etc. in 2019... and probably more. You figure GG is either way into a sequel of Horizon or in production on yet another AAA IP... probably looking 2019 or 2020 on that. The rumor has always been that From Software has a three game contract with Sony for 3 new games starting with Bloodborne.... since they have been very quiet... it would not be a surprise to see either Bloodborne 2 or another IP from them in 2019.
Again and again and again, you just want get rid of Sony, don’t ya ? I did bashed MS a lot, but do I ever want to get rid of them ? No, I don’t want MS and Sony and Nintendo to be gone.
@ucforce when have i ever said i wanted to get rid of sony? i own their console. i’m a psplus subscriber. I play their games. Competition is good for the gaming industry. If ms wasn’t getting beaten we would not have gotten many of the features that are prominent in the xbox one. You are reaching for the stars UC if you think i’m trying to get rid of sony.
Turbo Graphics 16 sold 5.8 million worldwide, with 3.9 million being in Japan. Its software support on the market lasted longer than any other console, including the PS2. Not sure how that's relevant to the discussion, but feel free to discuss something involving sales numbers. How is knowing that Xbox hardware sales increased 14% last quarter really mean anything, if we don't know what they increased from, and how much of that was due to the X1X release, where I'd imagine they didn't add as much to their user base as the total sales of X1X may actually indicate.
Well, Microsoft doesn't care about sales anymore, unless it's good for them.