During Electronic Arts' quarterly earnings conference call, Chief Executive Officer Andrew Wilson and Chief Financial Officer Blake Jorgensen talked about Star Wars Battlefront II, microtransactions, loot boxes, and the plans going forward.
EA...smh! So much spin, so much greed. It just confirms that their customers are Not the gamers, but the investors. They've learnt nothing.
It bothers me that ppl are still talking about BF2's loot boxes rather than the recently announced delay of Anthem to 2019. I think it's an absolute joke that EA stealthily announced a 2019 delay for Anthem in January of 2018 after they marched out on the Microsoft stage and proudly proclaimed a 2018 date. Clearly Microsoft and EA used Anthem to hype the xbone x and to sell consoles.
Or it's core element was lootbox mechanic :-)
Captain Obvious would like to point out that a game, announced in June 2017, may not stay on schedule if it still has 17-18 months until its projected release, and that moving it until January is only a two month delay. But really, if you want to talk about a company using announcements to sell consoles when their line up was sparse, this is not the article to do this in. "Clearly Microsoft and EA used Anthem to hype the xbone x and to sell consoles." Seriously, if it was moved to Holiday 2019 I could see your point, but two months? Besides that, many games have been pushed to spring from Holiday, including Sony and MS 1st party, over the years.
It bothers me that ppl are still talking about BF2's loot boxes instead of the recently announced delay of Anthem to 2019. The fact that EA stealthily announced a 2019 delay for Anthem in January of 2018 is ridiculous. It's not necessarily the fact that it was delayed but rather when it was delayed. The sheer fact that EA is telling us that the next 11 months isn't enough time to finish the game shows that the E3 announcement on the Microsoft stage was likely just a ploy to hype the xbone x and to sell preorders (of the x). They have nearly a year to attempt to ship the game but instead they announce a 2019 delay? This tells me that EA probably realized from the get-go that it was not a 2018 game and bothers me that both EA and Microsoft used it to hype their E3's.
I didn't mean to post a similar thing twice but N4G refreshed and i thought i had to retype my sentiment.
I hear your point, but tbh I think it's more to do with a combination of industry factors. First you have BF2 and the lootbox controversy, but then there's also the controversy over Destiny 2 - which is a model I believe Anthem wants to emulate. I think EA wants to distance themselves from both of these, as well as restructuring some of Anthems' game mechanics that may be cause controversy, i.e. the whole BF2 progression system.
Trying to see the positive side of it though, I'm hoping they're reacting to the BF2 controversy and all the crap surrounding Bungie and Destiny 2 in hope that when Anthem does launch, we'll get a complete product free from controversy.. not holding my breath though.
I have a couple of problems with your statement. First of all, this is Bioware we are talking about. They are notorious for delaying their games with statements like, "it will release when it is ready." However, they aren't saying that. This will increase the amount of time that they have to add more polish to the game... or microtransactions, whatever helps you feel better. Second, EA has stated that the reason they are delaying the game is so that it doesn't have to compete with the new Battlefield release. According to you and others, that is a lie. You believe what you want. I, personally, don't care if the game is delayed. As long as it is good when it finally releases. On another note, you show your absolute fanboy bias when you drag Microsoft in to this even though MS has nothing to do with the delay of the game. But no, you are right, EA has a secret alliance with MS to sell the X.
So true. The statement to their investors saying how removing the bullcrap wouldn't effect profits spoke volumes.
EA not buying any game from you good job you pos.
I made that decision the moment they shut down visceral because they were making a single player game.
I just buy their games used now, no penny towards them.
Only game that I buy new day one from them is Battlefield but any other is used, when is cheap.
That's funny. I've seen you moaning about Game Pass, but you're actually actively pushing the industry in that direction.
LOL what was the last EA game I bought? oh yeah...BF4 Premium when it was on sale for $20 on PSN. good luck getting my money again EA, you scumbag!
"He argued that Electronic Arts’ plan is “absolutely” to continue to drive and focus and deliver on digital economies and live services." What a surprise.
EA learn nothing.
That's the hilarious thing I find, when you look at the GAS model and the developers who have been successful with it, the majority all have one thing in common, communication with their playerbase. Look at Overwatch and how Jeff Kaplan communicates with his fanbase as a great example of it done right. EA just don't run their company like that.
You mean the devs who are now trolling youtube looking for what they consider toxic players and banning them? Yeah great example.
"Wilson explained that Electronic Arts remains committed to the Star Wars franchise." - Thanks for warning me. This is all I got from this entire article: EA: I want to take over the world. Disney: I want to take over the world! EA: You wouldn't happen to like to screw people over would you? Disney: Did we just become friends?! EA: Totally!
Good god. This company just makes me wanna throw up. Here's hoping 2018 kicks you right in the nads EA. I'll be popping a champagne bottle to your demise someday.
Their 'vision" is what will cause the gaming bubble to brust.
I love this game!
so funny when they are making an issue out of loot boxes when they lost me already at their multiplayer based concept with only an alibi solo campaign.
Talk about the Monopoly on NFL
Same with FIFA unfortunately.
Such avarice and stubboness, welp I am doing the easy thing of speaking with my wallet. It is sad we only hear about their plans during investor meetings and such it really emphasizes who they think about first.
Very true and like you said, the easy thing to do is speaking with your wallet. As long as they don't get hurt financially, we wont see any change.
The problem is it you'll takes several failures or multiple losses to cause change with lumbering giants like EA. Usually by then its too late.
"The team is currently working diligently on extra content and live services, and the publisher pledges to continue to support the community of the game “for a long time to come.”" Well thats good to hear. If they are going to add those microtranscations, they need to keep em cosmetic and not effecting core gameplay
Or they could just not add lootboxes and actually listen to gamers instead of living in whatever delusion they live in.
Ok... that's why we stated "If they are going to add those"
The efforts producing a decent enough game by those developing it is used as a trojan horse to squeeze and bleed the consumer dry. Star Wars Battlefront 2 exemplified the extent they were willing to take this, with the earliest buyers discovering the tactics they'd implemented in complete shock. Even by EAs previous track record, a shock. Now they're stating about waiting to view how this business model has performed down the line, yet still embark on that same approach regardless of that outcome. Either contradictive, stupid or just both. The traditional focus used to be a fully released that, access to all its content and then purchased DLC. It's a tried & tested formula, one that only improves as we move forward in the digital age of gaming. Then not so long after we see editions of games, with pre-order bonuses, that then gave birth to the idea of season passes. Not entirely fond, however you do get the full content on the disc accessible (at a reasonable standard of unlocking progressively) for the price you paid for it. Gave gamers slight advantages, we had our grumble or two. Now Star Wars BF2 came along, demanding full whack for a strict content limit with unreasonably long unlocking parameters (understatement of the century contender), micro transactions/loot boxes and basically switched the emphasis from competing via skill to competing via your wallet. That emphasis on competing with your wallet being made with stunning transparency may I add. EA will definitely continue, as far as their minds go, this will become the new standard, so sticking to their guns is what they'll do. Despite people's best efforts to boycott and point out their bull crap, even negative publicity is good publicity. Overtime if people do follow a trend of retracting their attentions away of multiple game releases, only then do I personally foresee them looking to genuinely revise their approach, to then screw up a month or so later, again.
i can see the new madden with loot boxes appearing while the ball is in flight
Jeez. Don't they care about pr? Anyone could do a better job. I like the game but that sounds awful.
I see it still sold 9 million copies, only 1 million less than forecast. It appears that loot boxes and microtransactions are here to stay.
Really? That's a ridiculous amount of units to sell in 3 months. Consider how much you're going to sell with Battlefront 3 if they actually have no controversy and zero microtransactions? That's pretty crazy that even with this controversy this game was still able to move massive units.
It's Star Wars, at the time of a Major Star Wars movie release. Remember that the majority of gamers don't visit gaming forums on a daily basis like we do! lol.
It was forecast to sell 14 million.
Well.. It's only been 3 months.
Thanks to all the MT bullsh*t and SW saga, I've gone back to the PC for my gaming needs. Washing my hands of the console in recent months has been the best detox I've done in ages.
EA games are also on PC.
You do realize Microtransactions exist on PC also, right? You understand that EA also releases their games on PC? Its fine to like PC but lets not act like its some pure world where crappy practices and Loot Crates or Microtransactions don't exist lol.
Right its like he thinks steam isnt full of shovelware, money grabs, asset flips and nonownership of product.
Damn, EA learn nothing at all.
EA will never stop finding away to force its consumers to empty their wallets
very strange how EA got reprimanded for loot boxes yet other publishers get away with the same thing... Activision (COD/MW/WWII etc) for example adding extra weapons to the games hidden behind loot boxes... which is no different to what EA did/was doing (and others were doing)...
EA is talking about loot boxes? Unless they said they arent interested in them, im not interested in what they said about them. It cant be good... im good though..F that
From the article: "They will work very closely with all industry partners and the ESA to make sure that people understand what loot boxes are and why they are not gambling." I'll let you draw your own conclusion.
Basically they said "We plan to use the ESA to change consumer prespective on loot boxes as right not the current persepctive isnt conducive to selling the game piece meal."
Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy said in a press release on the Star Wars website that the company's primary goal was to choose a game publisher who could consistently deliver "great Star Wars games for years to come." She continued, "When we looked at the talent of the teams that EA was committing to our games and the quality of their vision for Star Wars, the choice was clear." I believe they failed you Kathleen you stupid biatch
You act like she isnt failing Star Wars and Lucus films. Which she is so no surprise in this statement.
How did my follow up comment to that old statement say she isnt failing Star Wars. My comment starts after the last "
"He argued that Electronic Arts’ plan is “absolutely” to continue to drive and focus and deliver on digital economies and live services." We already know how greedy you are EA, you don't have to tell us. EA, you never learn, you never will. If your customers are the investors, we will move away from any of your released games from now on. We are not interested anymore in your games. Bluepoint, Guerrilla Games and many other developers who care for games and gamers will be our next choice. The community will move away from your games EA.
And I will certainly continue to buy smaller and better games from more worthy developers.
The real nightmare is as long as EA has the rights to produce a FIFA game,it won't die out anytime soon.
The only "proven model" that works for MTs is when the game itself is free. EA still hasn't gotten the memo on that.
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