Will level 5's WKC make as big of a splash as Sony hope? Is Level 5 worth acquiring? Interesting read overall plus a two new magazine scan from a Chinese gaming magazine.
sony should hurry up and buy them
lol with what money? They should save their money for price cuts but if they can afford it Level 5 would be the RPG studio to buy. They already have quite a few studios with them and with the funds a publisher like sony can pump in for them they will be able to make even better games
but I don't see Sony acquiring them. Level-5 has a good thing going on this gen, they git all those DS games, all the things with Sony, they're on a role right now. If were them I would stay independent. They're a very good dev, and I'm sure they're worth a butt load. Plus, Sony doesn't have to worry about them making games for the 360.
Yea they were working on an Xbox exclusive but Microsoft didn't let that end too well. But time heals all wounds (time and money:D)
Its all up to us and how we spend out money. Anyone up for dethroning the jrpg king? I just ate though.
if WKC turns out to be [email protected], then Sony should buy them, or at least make them love the PS3 so much that they wont turn back for lvl-5 to love the PS3 we, the customers, have to buy WKC like hot cakes, then the light will click in their heads..=)
In terms of size, its impossible to be bigger than SE as SE is the biggest developer in Japan not just for RPGs. But looking at art, talent and creativity, SE is no longer on the same level as Squaresoft used to be. Level 5 on the other hand is showing heaps of talent and creativity and art. I have no doubt Level 5 is here to make an impact with WKC. WKC will have similar impact as FF7 did for the PS1. Its coming this holiday in Japan. Its done in Japan. Home, LBP and WKC this holiday season. PS3 has an unstoppable line up.
Level 5 has more freedom because they make exclusive games. Square Enix's multiplatform games they have sacrifice the potential of the game to make it work on all systems.
No need to buy them since level 5 has a very sour relationship with MS according to its president. He even declared that the company will never work with MS again.
As appealing as that may sound, Level-5 is interested in becoming a publisher.
Level 5 should remain independent; they will improve more as developers that way. Sony should consider buying a minority stake at Level 5 to help them grow bigger with additional funding. What Sony needs to do is maintain a good relationship with Level 5 by providing them all the support they need to create games for the PS3 and by giving them the creative freedom that they deserve.
I agree most definitely. White Knight Chronicles looks AMAZING.
Chuck Norris is right. Infact Chuck roundhouse kicked it and made "Right" into "left" joking aside I agree. Sony, don't buy Level-5. But instead, invest as much support as possible into their studio sort of like the relationship they have with Insomniac.
@Lanoire I hope so man. It will be a Holiday to celebrate.
Sorry but the facts dont lie. Rogue Galaxy Dragon Quest WHITEKNIGHT CHRONICLES Loads of potential Great talents
Why? Simple. SE has become a bloated, self absorbed developer/publisher and is nothing like the Square that made great games like FFVII and the like. They are now a company that is turning out mediocre games for profit alone and forgetting about the art of gaming. Level 5's WKS is looking to bring back some of the epic feeling that true JRPG's are said to have.
sorta like how EA does it with there games now. b4 they were great, now its just a name with w/e bs they can take on to the title to make it sell. i think square is trying to do the same now, low costs, high profit due to name alone. i wonder what the ff13 reviews will be like when they come out.
Lol you guys are all wrong........ ..... ............ .................... ........................... ............................. .............................. . ......... ........................squar e enix already dethroned themselves.
@last dance Bubbles for you for that best quote of the day! Squaresoft was better before they merged with their RPG maker rival Enix. I lost faith in Squareenix games since after playing (but never bothered finishing)that over-hyped FFXII. IMHO, I personally believe that Squareenix knows that their games are going to suck, so that's why they decided to bring their Final Fantasy franchise multi-platform, so they could recoup their money in case the game flops.
I Agree. Buy them media molecule and Also Level-5 ^^ well atleast buy level-5 first
What needs to happen is maintaining a strong relationship. Much like Insomniac. Stay independent so they are free to do what they want. That means more awesome different games, instead of being stuck to making just WKC games.
N they Should buy Mm first since LBP is a Hit! Lvl 5 should be reconsidered in buying, Or Sony + Lvl 5 can have the same relationship with each other like MS and Bungie.
The reason I wouldn't mind seeing Sony purchase either company, and why I believe at least one of the two wouldn't mind being bought (aside from the obvious security factor), is because Sony DOES allow freedom and support to it's 1st party developers or to companies making games they are publishing (ie., LBP), which is why you never hear a game company complain about their relationship with Sony. In fact, most companies in this situation are constantly praising the support Sony gives them.
they have no wish 2 sell as president said many times
Its not about dethroning a company. Its about whether White Knight Chronicles can beat FF-XIII or FF-versus XIII offerings this generation. We know next to nothing about FF-XIII and versus, but we do know WKC will be one tough competitor to beat.
how do we actually know that? Its going to be released in a couple of months, and they didn't have a playable build. And this was tgs, japan's biggest games conferance, and the last one till the game releases. I suppose it goes to show, if you build top quality rpgs you can rise meteorically...They really have only been going on for ten years...
Just because that stupid forum guy said they didn't have a playable build doesn't mean they don't, go to WKC's page in GameTrailers and see for your self, there was a playable build in last year's TGS, and there is an ON-LINE playable build this year. One more thing, when L5 first started they were developing one game at a time, now they're working on WKC, two psp games and three DS announced games at the same time, and there's a rumor about working on a new Dark Chronicles game.
and he only gets a disagree? I know what the problem is, you didn't post a link. http://www.gametrailers.com... White Knight was at TGS '08 in playable form. End of story.
I have no doubt that Level 5 will beat Fabulla Nova Crystallis.Final Fantasy has grown stagnant in the past few years and Star Ocean 4 and WKC will dethrone FFXIII
definitely won't, but WKC has a chance/ It reminds me of FF9 a little.
No I think SO4 is plenty capable.You'll see.
Not with those bullshots, average character design, average rpg storyline and combat system that befits the average RPG. SO4 will not be any triple A status whatsoever. Let alone have any chance to rival FF13.
Seriously Steven, SO4 looks like dog turd.
I love Level-5 games but I don't think they're as good as FF yet, also what's this SO nonsense you're talking about, SO3 was a stupid game with good graphics, SO4 have nice graphics but uses an improved SO3 fighting system, it has no chance of ever coming close to FF with that.
Never mind then.You guys play WKC.I will play WKC and S04 so whatever
SO is just repeats of the other installments. same story line, same battle system (somewhat). i got bored of every SO so far. ive played pretty much all of them from the PS, PS2, to the SNES. they need to change it up a bit.
I said never mind.Lets drop this
I don't like being told what to do. SO4 doesn't look as good as FF13 or Versus 13. WKC looks better than all, but the FFs may be tough competition.
so definitely Level 5 is the new square
Poor Sonybots, forced to abandon FFXIII in favor of Sh!t Knight Chronicles, a game w/ Ps2 lvl graphics and is so bad Sony didn't even have playable demos @ TGS 3 months before launch. There's a reason Microsoft sh!t on Level Five last gen, it's because their games are incredibly mediocre, and just now they're finishing True Fantasy Online v2(aka WKC). Enjoy playing a game that MS didn't even want last gen much less this gen.
Yeah right that's why M$ published Too Human
that's just so sad, you are indeed a sad individual. I know that I will lose a bubble just for telling you that since you are obviously a multiple account user and will go on a rampage, but you are pathetic. They are offering you a great game and you still decide to talk about it this way. Mediocre huh? So you never played Dark Chronicles or Rogue Galaxy or Professor Layton or Jeanne D'Arc. Your comment is ridiculous.
This is the first true next-gen JRPG and the third true next-gen RPG after Oblivion and Mass Effect.
FF13 is coming to PS3 exclusively in Japan Ofcourse the bigger one is PS3 exclusive --FF13 versus sick of x360 JRPGS flops?? IU/Flop dragon/Flop odyssey/TOV/IDOLMASTER/SO4 --how many flops will x360 produce SO4 looks like dogsh** WKS looks and plays better than all games on x360 sucks to be a bOt @ariexv Others this guy was banned at neogaf forums.Now he trolls here for no reason abndon FF13 ....that will sell 2x as much on PS3 WKS will outsell all x360 JRPGS combined --which look like dogsh** WKS gameplay http://www.gametrailers.com... even the cam footage of WKS destroys IU/TOV and other x360 flop rpgs BTW WKS runs at 1080p native , has 4 player co-op --features only possible on PS3
^^^^ nasim is that you?
Poor Drweg the bot. He has to sh*t on a game he's never played before. A pathetic sight indeed. Of course he will know about sh*t because Too Human is the definition of a rotting pile of sh*t.
I think every PS3 Fan on this should have a 'LBP Avatar' for the next 2 weeks!!! ;-D That would P*SS off the xBot Zombies!!! ;-D +I AM NASiM!!!(Why does no one believe me for!!!) ;-D
hahahha @ken look at mine hehehe yeh i think level 5 deserve to take the crown at least their rpgs are quality
Your avatar ain't too shabby either! :3 Sackboy/sackgirl FTW.
@B-Rein ;) Cool Avatar!!! ;) Come on PS3 Fans!!! Lets ALL do it!;) @juuKEN ;) Well i just stuck it on like!!! ;-D Wanted to cut around the Sack-boy Photo then stick it on(Maybe Sack-boy upside down!!!+A erm Rainbow photo) ;-D but haven't got a Program to do that(Maybe there is a way to do it, but i haven't a clue with P.C Programs!!!) ;-D It will do;)
guys, don't let Dweg get to you, he isn't worth anyone's time
Buy Level 5, Media Molecule and Quantic dream.
Dethrone? No. However this and Fable 2 easily surpass anything SE has released scale wise(mostly because of the online features, WKC is also pulling off some nice sized enemies), that being said we haven't seen much of FFXIII yet.
In some gamers' minds Level 5 IS the new Squaresoft (NOT Square-Enix, whom many see as a shell of its former selves). Professor Layton was one of the top selling DS games and they have a bunch of interesting original IPs coming out. Of course, I think Level 5 is to big for Sony to hope to aquire; they could have done it pre Dragon Quest VIII, but now, it won't happen. However, Sony and Level 5 have a very good relationship, similar to Sony/Insomniac so acquiring is not necessary.
NOT Square-Enix, whom many see as a shell of its former selves)" Lol... for some reason that reminded me of the philisophers from MGS. on topic: I am sure they can succed. $quare Enix (<- see what i did there) have really gone down hill...
YA Level 5 should stay independent and show every1 what kind of freedom you get when when developing for the ps3. Sony has enough 1st party studios alongside second party support to need to aquire l Level 5 Sony Corporation - PS2, PSP, PS3 Sony Computer Entertainment (worldwide publishing label) Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (Japan publishing label) Sony Computer Entertainment America (NA publishing label) Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (Europe publishing label) Sony Online Entertainment (publishing label) - jointly owned by SPE (majority) and SCE, reports to SCE Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios (group name for development studios) Bigbig Studios Clap Hanz Evolution Studios Guerrilla Games Incognito -> integrated with SCE Santa Monica || 2007 Naughty Dog Studios Polyphony Digital SCE Bend SCE Foster City SCE Japan [multiple teams - Team ICO] aka JAPANStudio SCE London Studio SCE San Diego SCE Santa Monica SCE Studio Cambridge SCE Studio Liverpool SOE Denver Zipper Interactive Cellius <- Joint venture w/Namco Bandai Games, minority stake. Eat Sleep Play <- 2ND PARTY STUDIO Game Republic <- 2ND PARTY STUDIO Idol Minds <- 2ND PARTY STUDIO Insomniac Games <- 2ND PARTY STUDIO Media Molecule <- 2ND PARTY STUDIO NCSoft <- 2ND PARTY PUBLISHER Quantic Dreams <- 2ND PARTY STUDIO Queasy Games <- 2ND PARTY STUDIO Slant Six Games <- 2ND PARTY STUDIO Sucker Punch Studios <- 2ND PARTY STUDIO thatgamecompany <- 2ND PARTY STUDIO
This game is starting to go pass epic. I see the Multi Player as a kind of PSO like piece. And that is not bad at all. With DLC taking over this could morph into something unseen ever.
i just hope they don't charge for online like PSO. id like it to be as free as possible
Level 5, Media Molecule would be a nice acquire for SONY.
I wouldn't say it will de-throne SE, but I do hope it will make Level5 back into same place as SE Sony should pump in some advertising money for their big hit, there are really few advertisement from PS3 game...
Oh yea. MM is actually supported by Sony. Because of Sony, MM exists today and Sony gave them about 80-90% of the tools and what not. They have a signed contract with Sony ... I could be wrong but I believe they are 2nd party developers to Sony. There's written and signed documents on MM's website in Adobe Reader so be sure to check it out. Level 5 on the other hand is 3rd party (which I should be accurate on this one). Edit -- Before I forget, Level 5 is putting out a really awesome game and I am already shifting away from Square Enix. If you guys have played Jeanne D'Arc on PSP it's a really awesome game by Level 5. Edit2 -- Just saw some guy who commented on Sony not having money to purchase companies. You do know that Sony has many, MANY devisions and departments. They're sitting on tons of money. They're older than MS.
" Just saw some guy who commented on Sony not having money to purchase companies. You do know that Sony has many, MANY devisions and departments. They're sitting on tons of money. They're older than MS." Yeah I laughed so hard when that guy (he know who he is) wrote that. Sony's revenue is like a small country's GPD or whatever you americans call it. (BNP in sweden ;) )
You mean GDP? Gross Domestic Product...
Dont know, well the last good FF game was 10 (ffx) under square-soft. The X-2 came out under square-enix and FF hasnt been great since then. They still make good games but nothing great any more. Im not hyping Level 5 until I experience WKC or see good reactions from others, the only game i played made by level 5 was dark cloud.
They still have the most experiance. But I hope Level 5 prove me wrong and make a real great RPG here. I'm dying to get my teeth into a JRPG this gen, I played that Eternal Sonata demo and I like the look and sound of it, I just don't dig the setting and story too much. Will anyone ever top Secret Of Mana or Ocarina Of Time? (showing age here) !!!
As far as I'm concerned, those two games that you mentioned has already been beaten by Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2.
But what classic JRPG's do you rate?
"Sony should pump in some advertising money for their big hit, there are really few advertisement from PS3 game..." This is what pisses me off about SONY, they don't advertise their big game enough case and point MGS 4.
I agree with you on this. Sony just doesn't advertise there games properly. Remember how Microsoft pumped out Halo 3. I agree Sony can't do the advertisement on Halo 3 level but I was disappointed with MGS4 advertisements, they game would have sold much more, if it was advertised properly.