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Microsoft’s Xbox One X 4K Focus Will Push Competitors To Follow Suit – Crytek

CryEngine developer also feels that the console is a "worthy hardware upgrade" over the Xbox One.

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Aenea8d ago

Oh look, GamingDolt interviewed another dev about a console!

Sonic_Vs_Mario8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

All these Articles about Xbox One X is facts.

Aenea8d ago

Of course it's a worthy upgrade over the X1, no one is denying that, it's just that GamingDolt always interviews some developer or analyst and ask silly questions, usually to get the clicks and nothing more. Sometimes 1 interview is being stretched out over several articles and it's all just for ad revenue.

ULTp0ltergeist8d ago

Well, journalism is a dying profession hence the clickbait. This is no different from cable news dragging out one story or in others words "stretching the truth".

Silly gameAr8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

@Aenea

And, it seems like N4G lets them get away with it. I've seen articles failed before simply because they're doing the exact same thing that Gamingbolt is doing. Do these guys even talk about games, or are they about hardware? If they're about hardware, they should change their name to WeLoveXboxHardwarebolt.

butchertroll7d ago

Sure, and PS4 and Switch are outselling "true 4k" console.

Ding7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

butchertroll5h ago
Sure, and PS4 and Switch are outselling "true 4k" console.
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Actually the Switch is a true NATIVE 4K machine.It uses the X1 processor [a Toshiba design based on a stripped down Cell for their Spurs Engine.. Which when Sony bought Toshibas share [of Cell/RSX] production back, Sony put up as part of the "Not for profit" Heterogenous System Architect
http://www.hsafoundation.co...
and was picked up by ARM, Sony then used these chips in their

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

4K "Triluminous" TV sets.

http://www.nvidia.com/objec...

TEGRA X1
GPU NVIDIA Maxwell 256-core GPU
DX-12, OpenGL 4.5, NVIDIA CUDA®, OpenGL ES 3.1, AEP, and Vulkan
CPU 4 CPU-cores, 64-bit ARM® CPU
4x A57 2MB L2
VIDEO H.265, VP9 4K 60 fps Video
4k H.265, 4k VP9, 4k H.264
POWER 20 nm SOC - TSMC
Isolated Power Rails, Fourth-Generation Cluster Switching
DISPLAY 4K x 2K @60 Hz, 1080p @120 Hz
HDMI 2.0 60 fps, HDCP 2.2
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Note its capable of 4K 60Hz also 1080p @ 120Hz ergo 60Hz per eye aka PSVR.

If that wasn't enough to make the Switch popular..

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lol

KTF267d ago

Who cares?
They are spamming n4g with these articles

frostypants7d ago

Not the point. The point is that every FailingDolt article is the same crap. It's ALWAYS a dev opining about the power of a console. It's the same clickbait every...single...time. Anyone who's been on N4G for more than a few weeks knows it well.

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OB1Biker8d ago

Geez man.
Sometimes I dont get straightaway its them and when I get here and realize I just laugh and move on haha
They nearly tricked me with the bait.

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

This is Crytek, masters of making games look so good your eyes bleed and your rig melts. lol But being serious, the Xbox One GPU was 1.3tflops and X is 6tflops, Memory 8gb DDR3 @ 68gb/sec vs 12gb GDDR5 @ 326gb/sec. It is a worthy upgrade and a much larger gap then comparing a PS4 and Pro as far as an Upgrade in hardware goes.

mark_parch8d ago

all i wanna know is where the hell ryse 2 is. come on crytek sort it out

Kiwi668d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Who else would they interview ?

Aceman188d ago (Edited 8d ago )

For me it should be about pushing games period, end of discussion. 4k should be way after that.

ONESHOTV27d ago

Why not both why limit your self ?

Aceman187d ago

Because when its all said and done I care more about the games first and foremost. As long as game looks decent enough I'm good.

OoglyBoogly7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

My issue with 4K as well is that, while I enjoy it and it does looks great, 1080p isn't that bad still. 1440p looks great and is a nice middle road as well.

Sad to think what some of the games running 4K and/or 4K checkerboarded could do if they ran at 1080p. Most would probably do 60fps or we could have more advanced physics and particles and what not.

I just know that 4K eats up a lot more system resources than I think most people realize. I know in my case on my PC (6700K @ 4.5GHz, GTX 1080 overclocked, 16GB DDR4-3000, NO SLOUCH!) a game like The Division goes from being a SOLID 60fps V-sync locked at 1440p with ~85% GPU usage to a mixed ~40-50fps 100% GPU usage at 4K.

Not even that big a difference in resolution, at least not super dramatic, yet I go from 60fps only using 85% of my GPU to 20fps lower AND 100% GPU usage. That means that going from 1440p to 4K, in my case, eats up a good ~30-35% performance. That's just not worth it.

CurbStompin8d ago

Why do you keep calling it GamingDolt?

Aenea7d ago

Because it's a funnier name than their real name! :)

Godmars2907d ago

Interviewed a PC dev about a console.

Kiwi667d ago

You mean the devs who began working on consoles in about 2008 so what's wrong with them being asked about a console

Godmars2907d ago

As I recall more about PC devs insistent on bleeding edge graphic tech who were part of a mini-crash of that industry, wanted/needed money, so they went to consoles complaining from day one that they weren't powerful enough.

neocores80557d ago

careful man GamingDOLT might flag the comment lol

Barneyco7d ago

Maybe call it N4Gamingdolt lol

Xb1ps47d ago

With games being so top secret even more so now with how some games just didn’t pan out and was announced way too early, I’m sure it’s hard for game jurno’s to get some kind of info to give to us..

So I can kind of understand them stretching interviews especially if it’s there job and that’s how they make money.. n

Now what I don’t like is..... when they have a list of 30 of the best to worse cars and you have to click 30 Times...... nope!

frostypants7d ago

[Random dev] says [something power related] about [some console]...hmmmm...smells like a FailingDolt article...

*click*

Yep, FailingDolt. The new HipHopGamer apparently.

Why o why6d ago

No fair. That guy actually played and enjoyed games.

Obscure_Observer7d ago

@Aenea

Alot of people which complains about Gamingbolt articles are the first ones to give them clicks while making it the most relevant website and source for news here on N4G. Sad but true.

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Nyxus8d ago

I don't see how, Sony already released their mid-gen upgrade and I don't see Nintendo coming with a 4K Switch anytime soon.

morganfell8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

In addition, what is selling more and will sell more this year? A machine 'advertised' as 4K or a machine that doesn't know what 4K is and instead advertises fun?

Crytek is desperate. The Switch will push things far more than the X1X.

darthv728d ago

I'd say crytek get to work on a sequel to Ryse in 4k or how about a patch to make the existing Ryse X enhanced.

morganfell8d ago

No.

If Crytek was smart they would make a game for a machine with wider appeal and that machine isn't the X1X. They would play the odds rather than betting on an equation that doesn't pass 3rd grade math estimates.

Jinger8d ago

Switch isn't got to push tech. Switch has a nice gimmick, much like the Wii, but it isn't moving the industry forward. It's more of a side step.

Nothing wrong with that, but a lot of people don't care for an underpowered hybrid system.

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ8d ago

Well they are... "The Hunt" which will be on PC, PS4 and X1, prob not switch. Judging how good the game looks already in Alpha, I don't see it coming to switch, even in 640p.

morganfell7d ago

"Nothing wrong with that, but a lot of people don't care for an underpowered hybrid system."

More people care for the Switch than for the worlds's most powerful console with no exclusive games. And you should really open your eyes and stop acting like portability with a drop in dock isn't a kind of tech.

Brian76554927d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Crytek has always been known to push visuals, which explains their interest in the Xbox One X. How many Crytek games were released on previous Nintendo platforms?

It is also talking about the push towards 4K, which we have already seen. Playstation, Xbox and the PC market are viable platforms heading towards 4K, as are many third party developers. Not sure the relevance of Switch in this scenario.

"More people care for the Switch than for the worlds's most powerful console with no exclusive games. And you should really open your eyes and stop acting like portability with a drop in dock isn't a kind of tech."

That has yet to be proven with developers such as Crytek. How well did Call of Duty do on Switch, what about Destiny and Battlefront II? Switch has yet proven itself to developers that it is a better system than the Xbox, and that probably explains why games such as Red Dead Redemption 2 are so far missing in action on Switch.

"If Crytek was smart they would make a game for a machine with wider appeal and that machine isn't the X1X. They would play the odds rather than betting on an equation that doesn't pass 3rd grade math estimates."

Sounds like if you had your way you would never make a game for the Xbox no matter what. Crytek is playing the odds which is why they would rather support PS4, Xbox One and the PC. Nintendo has a history of not being a great platform for third party developers. There's a lot more Xbox One systems out there than Switch. Just because Switch is selling better doesn't mean 10 million is bigger than 30+ million. It will take awhile before Switch surpasses Xbox One and even if it does that doesn't mean Switch owners care about Crytek games.

morganfell7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"Sounds like if you had your way you would never make a game for the Xbox no matter what. "

Sounds like you didn't read the remarks to which I was replying nor do you comprehend the current financial state of Crytek.

If Crytek wants to be smart then it is time to shift gears and try making a game for a popular platform. Your pal Darth was suggesting they spend time concentrating on the X1X. The X1X isn't a popular platform. Just what a company in financial straights needs to do. Focus on a machine with less than stellar sales. Yeah that would be smart.

Crytek has been known for pushing visuals and other than a reputation what has it garnered them besides employees fleeing the company from lack of pay and the inability to make a hit title?

What?

No one is buying their engine in mass numbers either. Want to know the definition of stupidity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. That is similar to fanaticism - redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aims. Being the company that chases visuals hasn't worked. You are suggesting they continue down the path of failure. Hint. You should never open a company. Crytek is doomed if they follow your advice. Its called evolve or die and Crytek must move off the visual fidelity focus and on to something else before they go the way of the dodo.

InTheLab7d ago

I think people have to remember that this developer has a relationship with Microsoft they are also a developer that places graphics over gameplay. Microsoft has not in the position of authority to dictate anything cuz they are not the market leaders

zekk7d ago

Not sure how true it its but isn't Crytek the company that doesn't have enough money to pay their employees salarys and were kicked out of one of their offices due to unpaid rent? If that's the case I doubt they can afford to make anything at the moment.

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

https://www.pcgamesn.com/cr...

https://www.google.ca/url?s... https://venturebeat.com/201...

Some of these are a bit older so maybe something has changed?
I'm a little surprised no one has bought them out for their ip's or engine if that's the case

ONESHOTV27d ago

PC has both power and the games to back it but i guess when you only have money for one hardware it turns you into a rabid fanboy btw i also own PS 4 pro. And a high end rig so money isn't a problem

Enjoigamin7d ago

@morgan...they are its called HUNT ya diggleberry....do some research before you spew your nonsense.

morganfell7d ago

Here is some research for you:

"Hunt: Showdown is an upcoming video game in development and to be published by Crytek. The game was originally in development at Crytek USA, who wished to create a spiritual successor to Darksiders—a video game series developed by their predecessor, Vigil Games—under the title Hunt: Horrors of the Gilded Age. After the initial announcement in June 2014, Crytek USA was shut down due to financial issues, and the development was brought to the Crytek headquarters. The game, under the new title Hunt: Showdown, was re-announced in May 2017."

SHUT DOWN DUE TO FINANCIAL ISSUES.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

Read the rest of it before you spew your nonsense.

As for what you wrote:

"@morgan...they are its called HUNT ya diggleberry."

Who or what is called "its a hunt"? Who is they? They are called its a hunt? What?

Go back to school and learn to form cohesive, intelligible sentences.

Sonic_Vs_Mario6d ago

Your comment is cringe worthy.

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TheCommentator8d ago

Here's how:

How many native 4K games does Pro have? One X is the first and only console pushing Native 4K on their AAA titles (and the only console with UHD Blu-Ray), which means Sony will have to come out with new hardware to get native 4K resolutions on anything besides last gen remasters and budget titles that aren't pushing their respective consoles. Switch can't run 4K at all. This means that, like it or not, MS is pushing 4K into the living room and newer consoles from Sony or Nintendo would be required for them to hit 4K. Whether they NEED to upgrade to compete in terms of sales is a moot point because Sony and Nintendo will Have to follow MS' lead with regards to 4K.

Honestly though, this article is just another "captain obvious" prediction designed to get clicks anyways. The Pro's graphics are still really good, and even the OG consoles are still good enough in my mind. Just my attempt to give a little perspective on the subject , mind you, because graphics never mattered as much as gameplay and they never will.

Nyxus8d ago

"which means Sony will have to come out with new hardware to get native 4K resolutions"

Well, that's my point, they don't. They are doing fine as it is, still being the market leader worldwide.

xX-oldboy-Xx8d ago

I won't read the article, just on principle. But are they saying that the X is going to force Sony and Nintendo to release a 4k capable machine before they plan to?

No chance.

Will Sony's next machine be 4K capable, you'd bet your bottom dollar it will. And it'll have new ip's to show it off. Nintendo not so much.

MS doesn't/hasn't done anything to shake it rivals into doinganything. They are a bit player at the end of the day. Perpetually 3rd in every gen.

TheCommentator8d ago

No disrespect here, Nyxus, but Sony does HAVE to come out with new hardware to adopt native 4K. What you're saying in your response is that they don't NEED to come out with new hardware to keep outselling MS (which I do agree with, BTW). The difference being that while you've pointed out that 4K isn't necessary to win a console generation, it is still going to become a standard which MS set with the launch of the 1X and AAA native 4K experiences.

Babadook77d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Wrong. Difference between native and CBR is by no means obvious to human eyes without 8x zoom. See DF reaction to witcher 3 4k patch on both systems. Sony does not NEED to beat XOX, as they will continue to beat it in sales and software. Ps5 will come. But not because of XOX.

rainslacker7d ago

Which is why it won't happen until.next gen. Next gen was probably going to be 4k either way, so whole ms may have somewhat gotten there first in a sort of 4k capable machine, nothing they're doing is the influence for what was coming anyhow

morganfell7d ago

"How many native 4K games does Pro have? "

Hint: It doesn't matter. Has 4k helped the X1X outsell the Switch? Keep chasing 4K. Let's see how successful that turns out to be. 99% of gamers do not look at a box and think, "Naaaa. Not buying this because it isn't 4k."

TheCommentator7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

You guys are so cute. One thing I can always count on around here is people who continue to miss the point of the articles (and posts), and this article has nothing to do with sales or who's "winning". 1X got native 4K first which makes them the leader with regards to 4K. Rainslacker gets it. Next gen will all be native 4K and would be even if the 1X wasn't already, however, the point still stands that MS was the first to achieve this milestone in a console, and others will HAVE to follow. Let me demonstrate...

1st - 1X
2nd - follower
3rd - follower

See my point now? Everything else comes after first, and like it or not, MS is first. No additional perspective required!

@ Babadook

What's wrong? Everything I said is correct, which is why you had nothing in your comment to counter my post. Matter of fact you agreed with me that Sony will continue to outsell MS.

As far as CBR goes, believe what you want, but it's not just resolutions. LOD, filtering, lighting, textures, plus more all contribute to a much better image on the 1X than the Pro can offer. Look at a game like Assassin's Creed or one of many other examples from holiday 2017 to compare games because they (and all future multiplats will heavily favor the 1X in the graphics department. Instead, we try to use old games with a patch to prove an off topic point? Honestly, I just find it funny that so many people saw such a huge difference going from 900p to 1080p but can't see the difference between the Pro and One X. I don't care either way, which is why I still enjoy my OG XB1 and currently have no plans to upgrade. I may just sit out of the mid-gens entirely and get next gen whey they release.

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ULTp0ltergeist8d ago

because they just launched the Switch and heck it's freaking Nintendo. Are people this daft in the comment section?! omg

Godmars2907d ago

The PS5 is going to be a "true" 4k console just as MS's next system.

rainslacker7d ago

I think next gen was going to be about 4k either way. Ms isn't really the reason. They just kind of got a bit of a jump along with Sony's mid-gen, where they're both half steps for the impatiant

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Apocalypse Shadow8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Too much talk about resolution and not enough talk about gameplay mechanics or interactive and lively environments. And if I remembered right, Sony launched support for 4K first.

I think Sony is fully aware what resolution tvs support. I mean, it's not like they **MAKE** tvs or anything out of the three companies./s

eagle218d ago (Edited 8d ago )

NOPE. Sony and Nintendo run things around the world. Sorry. They move when they get good and ready.

zb1ftw7777d ago

MS are far bigger than both Sony and Nintendo combined.

PrinterMan7d ago

But not the MS game department. Besides, they've been bigger for a very long time and it hasn't helped them yet.

Why o why6d ago

Kinda makes them the biggest loser this gen

I mean, its so bad they're hiding their numbers. 4k is the future but neither sony or Nintendo are following that suit this gen.

TomatoDragon8d ago

Sony and Nintendo’s game library will push the competition to follow suit also.