Star Wars Battlefront II sales are expected to bounce back following weaker-than expected sales, Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter predicts.
No it ain't my boy or people aren't goldfish
Yeah I doubt it at this point too. Any game that EA publishes now will be heavily scrutinized by the media for the foreseeable future. They're on a tight leash and they know it.
Good. It's funny that the media now realizes that they can get more clicks by inciting the MT "controversies" than avoiding their mention in reviews, so I expect that going forward, that MT across the board will likely get more scrutiny. On the down side, it'll probably be misappropriated controversy at times, as the media has a bad habit of not distinguishing what people are upset about in their pursuit of advertising dollars.
The only way that I will buy this game, if they put on a deal for $10. I bought the first game for $10 too.
10$ used from someone else maybe... Not a dime to EA
So to be an analyst you just have to spout nonsense? Not know anything about gaming and be completely clueless about what people are really like? Damn, guess I can't be an analyst then.
It sounds to me like some Analysts are just yes men hoping to get in the good books of these companies. Keep telling them what they want to hear and then they will keep coming back for their services...as if they actually do anything. I'm assuming someone has to pay these analysts to spout this dribble.
There is no way this will bounce back. 1. The hype of The Last Jedi is gone now. 2. The holiday season has passed. If those two scenarios didn't help boost their sales then what makes them think the sales will bounce back now that there is nothing else to look forward to, aside from what, that Han Solo movie that sounds like a train wreck? No way. They need to just let it go and start over a different progression system and no loot boxes.
If anything the Last Jedi (which was GOD AWFUL) has killed the hype. Unfortunately Star Wars has become a vehicle for Disney to push female empowerment and elevation at the expense of core heroes and to emasculate all male role models. What was done to Luke was a travesty. The re-view/re-watch numbers are piss poor for a reason....the fans hate it. Luke the fisherman, and the milker of space moose. Really?
I think this game will be heavily discounted once EA figures out how to put MT back in in a way that doesn't piss everyone off. To that end, they won't make as much on the initial sale of the game, but they'll try to focus on getting as many users as possible in order to cash in on MT sales. In that regard, it could bounce back in a way. However, like you, and most are saying, I don't expect this to be the roaring success that it could have been if they had just been more modest in their MT approach. It's rather ironic in the pursuit of trying to maximize profit, they actually hurt it's actual potential to return a better profit. Imagine how much this game would have sold if it had no, or even non-offensive MT.
Not only that, after two months on the market, it's not like people are going to run out and buy it now that the initial hype has died down. It may sell well once it is discounted more, at which point I expect EA will have come up with it's replacement for MT in the game in order to get people to come in and hopefully spend more money. This comment is odd from Patcher, because even he knows that the vast majority of a games sales happen in the first 3 months. I think given the somewhat divisive nature of the film which dropped off pretty fast at the box office, that the hype for the game itself is going to wane even faster since a large chunk of it's perspective audience has, or will soon move on to the new stuff starting up in spring.
Hope they don't bounce back
Wishful thinking. It's not bouncing back, especially when EA again decide to implement loot boxes - there will be backlash, and the game will likely be even more abandoned.
People are not and will not be stupid, expect the casuals.
I disagree, Battlefront (2015) did not sell off its own merits. Battlefront(2015) sold as well as it did due to coasting off “the hype” of The Force Awakens. Battlefront 2(2017) arguabley got worst reception, terrible PR and “the hype” for The Last Jedi isn’t as high as it was for The Force Awakens.
The hype is not as much, because the Last Jedi sucks as a Star Wars movie.
Dead wrong! It has many flaws but it still is superior to the force awakens, which sucks as a mere movie, not no mention a star wars movie.
Agreed, that movie was just horrible. I hated the force awakens, but think it's decent now compared to last jedi.
I didn't think TLJ sucked, but it wasn't as good as it could have been. My biggest problem is that Rei's character was no further ahead in development since the end of the last movie, and her place in the story of the movie was pretty much inconsequential. The overall story of the movie wasn't too bad, but it's character development was a departure in approach from the rest of the series. On a more general note, both movies having no cool light saber scenes didn't help. The Matrix-esque Luke fight was somewhat cringe worthy. When you have Kylo Ren who isn't that good with a LS, IMO, and Luke who can do what he was doing, it shouldn't have even been a fight.
Except the last jedi is a far superior movie than TFA. But, yeah, I hope the game tanks!
...says Pachter so expect the opposite
As far as stocks goes he’s right. That dip in stocks that people keep raving about has probably already gone back to normal. That’s not news, that’s the stock market. That’s what happens, daily. Why do people post his obvious shit around like he’s something special?
It went from 120 to 101 overnight. Currently it's at 112, so still down. It took over a month to go back up. It will stabilize after a dip like that, but actual value will be determined when they release their quarterly numbers. What the stocks do right now is pointless until there is a new baseline is established with their quarterly or yearly reports.
Yup. And those numbers will be massive from the lootboxes that made the dip and it will all go back to normal.
Hope it bounces right back into the fires of gamer hell
If EA gets rid of the progression-based MT’s, then maybe. Otherwise, I hope the sales stay abysmal and Disney revokes their License to making Star Wars games.
Keep dreaming. There’s not much to entice more people to hop on board
It's a good game, which was ruined by EA's excessive corporate greed. Of they can get rid of the greedy BS and keep improving & supporting it with great free content, positive word of mouth might spread and more people will warm up to it and give it a chance. It always had the potential to succeed. EA just decided to Tonya Harding it in the knee before release.
It is not a good game by any stretch, graphics and sound are awesome - gameplay is average. Not what you would expect from Star Wars or Dice. Overall and average experience.
Eh, I don't think this game will have long legs. Word of mouth tends to be stronger closer to launch. By the time EA may start getting into recovery mode on this game, people will be moving onto the next thing to catch their eye. Gamers have a bad habit of having short attention spans when it comes to getting into games.
Not with GaaS still being in the game
naah. trash should always sell for cheap or not sell at all. they can choke on their optimism.
Any future EA games I will avoid unless it really peaks my interest
I truly hope they don't!
The average consumer doesn't really care about MTs, in my opinion the main reason why BF2 had lower sales in its first weeks was mainly the fact that it debuted two weeks after the juggernaut that is Call of Duty WWII. Heck, it made #2 in some places on its debut week I think, hardly a flop even if it didn't meet EA's initial sales expectations. Currently, SWBF2 is both the 4th (Deluxe Edition) and 5th (Standard Edition) in the top games list on the US PSN Store. If they counted both editions as a single game, and/or it weren't for CoD WII, SWBFII would surely be higher. Source: https://store.playstation.c... (January the 5th, 2018). And in the US Xbox Marketplace, the Standard Edition is currently #3 in the Top Paid Games chart... again below Call of Duty WWII. The Elite Edition is less fortunate, being all the way down to #17. Source: https://www.microsoft.com/e... (January the 5th, 2018). SWBF2 may not reach EA's sales target, but I doubt they'll consider it a sales flop.
if it doesn't meet their sales target - it's a flop
With so many amazing games out, why should I waste my time on this game?
Too optimistic... Until EA release a game that isn't barebones, full of micros and lootboxes and agree that gamers want something worth their money, I'm not touching the fuckers with a bargepole. Not Anthem, not No Way Out, not this year's yearly sports updates, not Need For Speed. Their games are no longer fun and enjoyable anymore. Repetitive crack for the lost gaming souls and those who don't know any better.
I managed to get it for $25 and you know what? It's actually a lot of fun. I've been enjoying it a lot more than Battlefront 2015. It's a shame because the core gameplay is really good. The whole loot based progression system is still stupid but whatever I've been able build up my two main classes and heros decently well. Still don't like the concept though. The MTs deserve every bit of scrutiny but give credit where credit is due. Dice made a damn fine game.
The only problem is the loot crates based progression tbh. Its annoying but not game breaking, just like awkward menu can be in other games. Hopefully they see it and get rid of loot crates in the face on future updates. What people refuse to admit is theres not been any MT since day one. I mean look, I enjoyed MEA for what' it is but got friends who spent a lot of money in mp MT. Not a complaint here about MT in that game.They focus on crapping on animation, story, gameplay they hate whatever. Many other games got awful MT but its easier to spit their bile on SWBF . I think pure hate on appearances (loot crates too much in the face) is not in the gamers interest. Pragmatism in looking at the fact is better
lol. it was less than £20 in a store near me - Sorry EA, no one believes that the game will still be a success.
of course it bounced back. all the rage surrounding this game was just a storm in a teacup. ea knows this. they just need to wait until the shitstorm is over and then go on like nothing happened. must be so cool when your main target group is just kids.
The problem with that is that most games sales go down drastically after a couple months. By then, marketing will be removed from venues, and people won't really be talking about it anymore beyond this particular topic, which means that the negative reaction will keep getting dredged up.
I will uphold my EA boycott.
They are going to skyrocket!! With all the stellar communication about the fixes coming to the game. The developers and the publisher are really demonstrating that they care. They are working to implement the features that should have been in the core game (customization, OBI WAN, more heroes, more maps etc). Unfortunately I am kidding as all of the above have NOT taken place. This game is going to go down. There are still many that are wait and see to verify what DICE and EA intend to do. At this point, nothing is confirmed.
Christ why the hell does this guy keep talking. He is maybe right 50% of the time and that's being generous.
I will NOT buy another EA game until I see noticeable changes from the Top down. Starting with Blake Jorgensen
It's not going to happen EA. You got your lesson for being greedy with MT. Time to face the facts and fix that attitude of yours.
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