There’s a reason to be worried about BioWare’s upcoming game E3 and it’s all due to loot boxes.
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Nah, game is going to be fantastic. Made by the original team who did Mass Effect 1-3
But with EA control, yeah that’s something I’m very doubtful. After what EA did to BF2, people can’t even trust any major publishers for once.
Can i long distance high five you, @UCForce?
But EA has been in control of the majority of the Mass Effect series anyway I mean by that understanding you might as well say you hated every Mass Effect after the first game.... Also there's not really that much evidence that Anthem is going to be the same way in terms of microtransactions or loot boxes. I think the only thing we could know for sure is that it's going to have season passes or downloadable content as their looking to have it similar to Destiny but in terms of microtransactions I don't really see much information pointing towards that I would argue based on the money they lost with Battlefront 2 they might be looking to not have that involved at all. And I'm also not sure what you mean by people cannot trust Electronic Arts, I have no problem trusting the game developers to develop a fun game and I have no problem trusting the publisher to Market and distribute the game.... Whether or not you like the game or not is kind of irrelevant. Don't buy it. This development team is still a quality development team and I'm definitely looking forward to trying out anthem.
What about Titan fall? I see a dark future for gamers if this trend keep happening
Titanfall sealed its fate when it wanted to be an XBOX exclusive. Nobody cared about TiFa2 because nobody played the first one.
This! You could easily apply the same logic to Battlefront 2 " Game is going to be fantastic. Made by the same team who made Battlefield the monster game that it is today" ... we all know how that turned out.
I have concerns the game will be riddled with MTs. Not so much because of Bioware but included at the insistence of EA. Such monetization practices are baked in from the original requirements from the publisher. I hope this is not the case that the game is ruined by MT mechanisms but like many, I am highly distrustful of EA and by extension any of their studios right now. Trust is earned and EA is sorely lacking in that department right now. @EDMINX I think that EA has made a strategic shift since the development of the games you mention. By their own words EA wants to emulate the revenue streams they employed with FIFA UT. They clearly tried to do that with SW BF2. Studios get marching orders too. EA does not just give free hand to their dev studios to do as they please. Thre's a reason they 'own' the studio. But I hope you're right it is a good game but I am skeptical.
This is a sneaky article that sounds like it was paid for. It sounds like it is trying to convince us we may as well GIVE in. It even makes the marketing statement 'Unfortunately, those days are over'. It even tells the big lie that select few voice their opinion against micro transactions. LIES!! When is the VAST MAJORITY a select few? Evey reddit, N4g post had 95 plus percent comments and votes against micro transactions. And EA did not reverse ship on a select few voice. It was people cancelling pre orders. Are they trying to talk us into thinking we have no power? Are is the writer really unaware that he is using marketing speak to make people not fight this? All we have to do is not pre order and they will reverse ship! Cancelling pre orders is even better. The only person that does not have power to change the game companies policies on micro transactions and loot boxes is the one that does not know he has the power.
@glenn1979 I see a dark future for a few publishers if these few publishers keep trying this. Gamers are not stupid and EA is reaching the CIRCUIT CITY level of bad will.
@indysurfn I agree that there is an effort in the industry including some willing gaming 'press' outlets to make this seem as if MTs are a 'fait a compi'. They try to convince us that they are necessary for the economic viability of the industry. I have read analyses that show this is not the case. This is surely a subtle manipulation to get the public to just accept this business model. I agree that consumers ultimately have the power. Opinions regarding anti-lootbox MTs are not monolithic but it is surely not marginal either. It is significant and in the case of SW BF2 was a very vocal majority. The business tries to marginalize that sentiment by saying it's a vocal minority. That is not the case.
Not really. A lot of their lead designers and developers have left the studio due to EA and their business practices over ME3 and ME: Andromeda. Not much of the original BioWare is left.
except BioWare is made up of literally hundreds of Developers.... Unless you got a good head count of every single member I'm not sure anyone is really going to know exactly how much of that original team is actually really there.
let's not be blinded by the past even though EA has not been particularly terrible in the past they have never been seen as a beacon of trust...and have gone total greed mode no one should trust any game this company has its lable on going forward i will not support anything they touch. i feel for the developers that fall under there control.
It'll probably be a Destiny-like grindy time waster. If you enjoy that kinda stuff you'll probably enjoy Anthem as well. But looking at EA right now, even if they execute the game design properly there is always the risk that they'll screw it all up with greedy microtransactions. A talented dev team is no guarantee for a good game under the EA flag these days. I wouldn't be surprised if wasn't even Bioware's decision to make that type of game to begin with.
Learn From History Jeez...
When has something like that ever mattered? It's clearly a Destiny clone with the same typical cut content and crappy shooter dungeon gear grind with microtransactions. ..Bioware's name stands for itself. The day Andromeda released, everyone should have known the days of them being on top were now over. "What team made what", doesn't mean anything. A good company takes responsibility for it's own work, always. And NO self respecting artist would have allowed Andromeda to launch in the state it was on. EVER.
I love those kinda games, without the micro transaction of course. Crappy dungeon shooter gear grind I mean.
Doesn't matter who makes the game, if EA involved then they'll find a way to screw with things. Bioware has been on a downward spiral, regardless of which team makes what games, thanks to EA. I won't be surprised if they will go the same route as Visceral games in the future. I really want Anthem to succeed and be they presented at E3 that will offer a great experience which Destiny 2 should have, but with EA in control, I will wait and just ignore all the hype.
@Yeahokwhatever 👏👏Well said!!!! 👏👏
And published by the same company that killed Visceral and Dead Space, Killed Star Wars, Need For Speed, etc.
If I get a whiff of any microtransactions or loot boxes in Anthem it will be off my to-buy list immediately. Trust in corporations like EA or Activision is at an all time low and they should be very scared not to piss their customers off any more than they have or their businesses will be in real trouble in the near future.
I don't think people are doubting that the game will be great, it's how EA riddles it with MT's that's the problem. The developers don't necessarily have control over that.
The issue is not the developer @SDaDrunkenJester, it is the publisher because they own the IP and can do whatever they want with it, including burying it under MT's and we have evidence that EA has done this already. They already screwed up Mass Effect Andromeda with that.....the odds do not look good in their favor.
You do know EA owns Bioware right?? And they tell the Dev teams what to do right??
Cautious but I still have some faith in Bioware.
We stand in the same position. I'm interested, but concerned. I don't be pre-ordering this one. Just as my write-up states my thought on what EA needs to do: "If I had to give EA any advice or tips regarding Anthem? It’d be to remove microtransactions altogether. It would be to completely make this game exempt of any form of loot boxes or a monetization model outside of the games $60 cost and DLC options such as a season pass."
They make way more money like threefold on microtransactions than the actual sales of the game. Sad I know. It's why they don't care. They don't disclose that info. We have to stop purchasing the game altogether. http://n4g.com/news/2131588...
That's where I'm at, @SierraGuy. I've been playing a ton of Indies latelt.
No doubt Bioware will make the game good, but EA will ruin it.
Yea, I have basically zero interest in this game as it stands.
It's going to be the last game Bioware makes before EA dismantles them and consumes their assets. All the while they'll reap a profit from MT's. That's just my opinion.
That profit won't be small either. This will eventually destroy development of new games.
I'm still waiting on a new Burnout game that charges you per crash...
I want this game and Dragon Age to be good, and microtransaction free but EA...
I won't be buying an EA game EVER AGAIN.
Yeah, I've already written this game off after seeing why they did to Star Wars.
An educated guess doesn't necessarily an opinion make. To say otherwise would be to go against basic logic, based on the company's past.
'Based on the companies past' Well, the past year has given us microtransaction riddled Battlefront 2, NFS and FIFA. As well as the pitiful treatment of Mass Effect. And the complete mistreatment of Titanfall 2 (EA's decision to push holiday between major titles) and it's developer. So yea, I think this articles opinion is pretty spot on when viewing the companies history
Don't forget UFC either.
Those who can read would understand I made just the same point. EA proves they do everything they can to sink both promising, and established, developers through bad business practice. Dead Space 3 and forward. I was saying that speaking the obvious isn't an opinion, but an educated deduction but, of course, it went over the majority of N4G's heads ..
Unless you work within the confines of the development team it's only assumptions, but whilst EA may been keen to throw microtransactions into everything, surely the public backlash over Battlefront 2 will be enough to stop them being so stupid with an entirely new I.P? Then again.. many of the big publishers are turning greedy these days so who knows.
I don't think that's an opinion.
I have little doubt the game itself will be good. However, adding MT's spell's disaster,unless it's purely cosmetic options, but I can't see that with EA at the helm.
I'm sure EA won't go that route again Game is gonna make my 1 X sing can't wait
That coould be a huge problem. Again, huge problem.
A lot of the top talent at Bioware has left. This is not a good sign. Sadly, I predict Bioware to the next victim and go under. EA needs to stop ruining great companies.
Sadly, the amount of notches on EA's belt is hideous. They've shuttered some absolutely amazing studios. I don't see Tripe-A being the same ever again as far as games are concerned. I think indie will be the way to go due to how they actually appreciate their fanbase and have a lot to lose if their games don't succeed.
I think you are right. I used to love EA. Now, not so much. And I buy a lot lf indie games. SWD2, BMZ, Golf Story and Cuphead being my favs.
@michellelynn0976, I've been spending a lot of time on games such as Cuphead, Darkwood, Conan Exiles and even Darkest Dungeon. All great titles. All of them not even polluted with microtransactions.
Also it wont be offline online required even if there is a campaign
Yup. It follows EA's plans for a "Games as Service" plan. That alone sucks.
Opinion: why complain now when this has been going on for the better part of a decade It’s only become a negative NOW?
Well it's already been confirmed by a EA insider a few months back that bf2 is nothing compared to this
Anthem is already dead, DOA=DEAD ON ARIVALLLLLL
This is basically EA's attempt on the Destiny formula, so it WILL have microtransactions. Will probably be for stupid stuff like cosmetics. The DLC on the other hand is where they're gonna rape people. Anthem DLC 1 $55, DLC 2 $60 ect ect....
reality is going to kill Anthem because the game will look nothing like what they showed, and be a boring SJW mess like all of their recent work.
Game is going to be ace but if I were ea, along with many others, should start treading lightly with loot boxes. Still I myself am refusing to buy any games now with loot boxes in, I'm done with greed in this industry but the blame isnt on just ea there are tons doing it..
This year might actually be the worst year for video games, maybe ever Fantastic games all year but it was the year that showed exactly what AAA studios are planning for the future. A few of the world's governments are stepping in at a time where governments aren't as naive as they were in the GTA days.
After I played Bf3 and they had battle pack for premium I knew E.A. was a going to go down down the shitter
gamers today are cracking me up: goes on ranting like butthurt - buys game anyway. this is really getting old.
I won't be buying it. I avoided several games that I said I would. I still have yet to pick up NFS: Payback, FIFA, Madden or even purchase SW:BFII myself (was gifted). I think EA is slowly withering away internally. I'll be blunt. EA was one of my favorite companies up until the Mass Effect 3 and Dead Space 3 shenanigans. That's where it ended. I loved Battlefield up until Bad Company 2, but they've continually shown that they aren't what they used to be. They are so focused on monetizing every aspect of their games that they are killing them one by one. I for one believe i things don't change, a lot of studios may go under or we will see a legal action taken to limit the amount of monetization games have in them. After all, Belgium has already deemed loot boxes as gambling due to their RNG nature. Hawaii and a few other states are jumping on board. I wouldn't be surprised if something regarding this passes in the U.S. and Canada for much longer.
The trailers looked so good, I'll be upset if the game doesn't turn out well. This game looks like it was made for me.
Opinions opinions everyone has one.
Let's see,people got burned by Mass Effect:Andromeda and the Battlefront 2 debacle.
Yeah I'm very worried about this game now, wish it was anyone but EA...
Honestly, I don’t think they can afford to just shove microtransactions in peoples faces anymore after the bf2 fiasco.
EA has a record of messing up great games long before mass effect and battlefront