A bit of a surprise package this one - 56 per cent of extra resolution over PS4 Pro, plus a range of visual upgrades.
no surprise there
Indeed. The visual upgrades are a great touch. More than just a 56% rest bump over the Pro. Nice work for the X
I'm not surprised but I'm always a little surprised when a game actually gets better textures/assets. Xbox One X really comes out on top here.
The power difference is quite real if they take the time and effort.
@DrumBeat "I'm not surprised but I'm always a little surprised when a game actually gets better textures/assets." Totally Agree! X´s high resolution assets provides better image quality over the Pro´s 1440p resolution even at supersample 1080p. That´s incredible!
Second game I have seen that they recommend playing the PS4 Pro version at 1080p.. Ouch. Sony really needs to step up their game.
That is why I have decided to move my OG PS4 from my entertainment center to my room and use it with my 1080p desktop monitor with my X being the only console use with my 4K HDR TV. I just can't play with anything with 1440p and below on my 4K TV anymore after the X. Over 50% resolution bump and higher textures quality made a world of difference on my 4K TV. 👍🏼
Enjoy your pixels.
@NoPeace Best of both worlds? From here on out we demand 4K or == better on the X. Devs had this system for less than a year and look at these results not bad. I've been on the fence on purchasing this game.
Because digital foundry recommended the 1080p mode for wildlands?
@GNCFLYER - PS4 fans seemed to be doing just that at the start of this gen. When there was a lot less pixels separating the two.
This is a total BS from DF. What's his name...that dude. Lately he's on the xtra roll. Why would one want to play in 1080p if you can get it much smoother on at 1440p. I never had such a thing as a 1440p game looking worse than a 1080P game on my 55". Not sure what screen he is looking at. One is a $349 console, the other $500. If that is worth your money, by all means, buy it. But at $349 it runs this game flawlessly at a higher resolution.
DA X continues to give Xbox gamers swagger. Just letting it hang low in these gaming streets and activates dat pimp walk.
Street Certified Approved homie!
And to think the fanboys use to say the cpu is a bottleneck we wont see a difference with the pro LOL. Love those arm chair developers
Ohhh wow Ghost Recon Wildlands runs at more than 30FPS on the XB1 X that amazing. What do you mean it's locked to 30FPS? But.....I thought the CPU was not a bottleneck?
It maybe 30fps yet its still the better console version and it goes to show what having that bit extra can do when its used
56 percent of extra resolution over PS4 Pro, plus a range of visual upgrades pulled over from the PC version on the X. The Pro is bottleneck on 4K TVs with it's weak GPU and the same anount of ram as the OG PS4.
^^ Yes, but it is't. That's the point. Of course it renders more, and yet another game which has 0 fps advantages over the Pro. The rest as expected. It's nowehere near Slim PS4 vs. XO where we indeed see 3-5fps difference (on top of resolution). It ain't so. Well, the XO would be a great 720p console, indeed.
ocelot im not sure you understand what what a bottleneck is. It means the cpu limits other far better components in the xbox to reach better performances. this version far and away strips the ps4 pro version. big time, while most use to say there wouldnt be a need for all the x hardware on that cpu and now we see all the differences in the world. Happy holidays.
@strifeblade but I do understand what a bottleneck is. It's a component that restricts a system from achieving a better performance. In the case of the Xbox One X and the PS4 Pro. That would be the CPU the crappy Jaguar processor. It's what restricts open world games from solid 60FPS framerate. Why do you think the likes of Assassin's Creed Origins is only 30FPS on both X and Pro? Both machines have the GPU power. But lacks the processing power. If both the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X has a better CPU let's say a Ryzen 1500. 30FPS would be a thing of the past. Both would be amazing consoles. But they don't and both are just poor mid cycle upgrades.
@Kiwi66 Yet most people probably don't care about the 56 percent extra resolution. If they lowered the resolution and went for 60FPS instead then I would be impressed. Can't see many people going from a PS4 or a PS4 Pro or even the XB1s/og if that's the only advantage these games are going to have over a PS4/XB1s. @NoPeace_Walker Yer and? The PS4 Slim has a 33% extra resolution over the Xbox One. The Xbox One is a bottleneck to 1080p TV's with it's weak GPU. It's all an embarrassment as a games console. With no exclusives being released on it or the X. You make it sound like it's a bad thing to be a PS4 Pro/Slim owner. What about the poor people with the XB1s and OG? You know the consoles am willing to be 97% Xbox One owners have.
"What about the poor people with the XB1s and OG? You know the consoles am willing to be 97% Xbox One owners have." OK...but I have an X and a 4K TV, so I'm all good. 🤗👍🏼 One thing too, those 97% of OG Xbox One owners have the option of running their ENTIRE library of invested games (XB1, BC X360) and accessories to the best console for 4K if they decide to do so, win the lottery, or found one in the street..... ....while, 100% of PS4 owners (rich or poor, it don't matter) will have to settle for inferior ports (as seen here and every DF comparison) of their invested games...doesn't matter if they decide to stay with their current OG console or decide to upgrade to 4K. That is the difference. 👍🏼
It’s awesome that you dismiss the difference between Pro and X as just some pixels and then try to make it seem like PS4 and Xbox One are worlds apart from each other...
@NoPeace_Walker I have a PC and play it at 60FPS as well as Microsoft first party games again what's your point? Thing is I am willing to bet most PS4 owners bought a PS4 OG to play games not resolution. Or most of them have one simply to play the vast amount of exclusives. @Death am not saying there is a massive difference between PS4 OG and Xbox One OG. At launch yer the slight power difference was probably used as a selling point. Mostly due to the PS4 being cheaper than the less powerful Xbox One. Plus this is only my opinion. The difference between 4K and say 1440p is not a massive difference. I have been playing games at 4K 60FPS on PC for 12 months now. Sure their is a difference but not £150 difference again in my opinion. Certainly not the £500 difference between my PC and PS4 Pro. But at least with the PC I can play at 60FPS. For example Fortnite BR I have been playing a tone of that lately. Yer the PC version looks better but not worlds apart difference. The major difference is the framerate and it's why I play it on PC more than PS4. Am simply not impressed with the XB1x. Or the PS4 Pro for that matter. Am far more impressed how a PS4 OG and slim can play a game that looks so good like Horizon Zero Dawn and not explode.
dude dont wast time with NoPeace_Walker.....he brags on that the X is the true console,but guess what,games are on ps4....so ya stay with your x and we stay where the games are...
Every xboner fanboy is just trying to justify their purchase or their eventual purchase. Unless you're face is planted on the screen, won't make that much of a difference.
Do you guys even have an announced game in 2018? M$ clearly has the edge on multiplats but all of you make it out to be that these games look like garbage on ps4 now when they clearly don't, and recon looks amazing.
makes a pretty big difference in my book- i have a 4k 930 series with hdr 65 inch from sony- sit within 8 feet, 4k blu rays with a premium atmos sound system, all of which the x supports, and this isnt a strict reolution difference similar to the base ps4 and xbox one where it was 800 vs 1080, now its 1400 vs 4k or 1800, with massive boost in high res textures due to the ram which pro titles will never see. For a premium setup- im glad the x takes every adavantage of it.
but you own a sony tv?
i'm sorry. i shelled out for the pro, i don't see the point in shelling out for the X just play games at slightly higher performance on both platforms. sony gets the games. i don't care for forza, gears, or halo anymore. come out with something innovative that'll hook me. Not to mention, i have a gaming pc. It's going to take something jawdropping and scalebound might have been it (even though it seemed like a dmc ripoff). Bring me Steel Batallion or wrap up a license like castlevania and yeah i'll budge.
Grabbed this game during the Black Friday sale to play in Beast Mode. Just waiting for the rest of my squad to get it so we can get some co-op action going.
mid gen refresh done correctly coming from ps4 pro player
Thats cuz Sony arent desperate...oh well.
Did you really just post that? Fact of the matter is that Sony WAS desperate to launch a mid gen console a year earlier than Microsoft and ended up with an inefficient upgrade as a result. ALL 3rd party games are significantly outperformed by the XBox One X. But at least Sony's 1st Party Games will get a bump in performance...
Pimpdaddy tell me how Sony was desperate while outselling Xbox by more than 2:1? Why would Sony be desperate when they're selling twice as many consoles and twice as many games not to mention vr. Yep that's desperation lol. They didn't need a totally new console like Microsoft needed. Microsoft basically designed a next gen console they were so desperate. All Sony had to do was add another gpu upclock the cpu and they were done. Microsoft needed to announce the console at e3 just to get people hyped to buy it November that's desperate.
I would rather get a better console out of desperation than a half baked effort out of complacency. Are you really arguing higher quality textures and resolution vs sales?
The X is as much a half baked solution as the Pro, if you will. Maybe a tad better - and more expensive. Well, I get that you guys get exited when you had to put up with the XO for that many years. Not Sony's fault that the standard PS4 still plays games quite alright.
@Ju Dude, just stop. Your fanboy is showing.
Wake me up, when the Pro runs 25fps and the X runs those games at 60. If it doesn't - well, in fact it doesn't - I am a happy camper with "only" 1440 (which isn't even the majority of titles) and the exact same framerate. So, yes, my statement stands. X is half baked as much as the pro. It can't run 4K at 30fps stable in most games (don't give me the F7 crap). 6K...yeah right...a lot of games got toned down after the Pro actually had the better framerate. The "beast" is a premium console, indeed. Of course it is. Of course it is the top end of the line. And it has a premium price. Go figure. If that wouldn't matter we'd have a $1000 console with 32GB ram, 8 cores, 4K @ 60fps with cinematic rendering. But it ain't so. There's always a bigger fish. And the X will get there, again, too.
You do realize that Sony knew the current PS4 couldn't handle a good VR experience right? This was a major reason, and the Pro isn't pushed down everyone's throat. Meanwhile, M$, desperate to be relevant again, basically had to release a new console which will make the S obsolete in a year, much like the Kinect. Enjoy your 30% boost in Call of Duty. Meanwhile, Sony has VR and relevant games on the way.
So Sonys Mid gen console that came out a year ago at $100 less than the Xbox 1 x didnt improve playstation games? Didnt make vr that much better? Lol how is that wrong? What more were you gonna get for $400 last year? And still the case remains all that power no exclusives why by an Xbox? Because it seems power is all that matters now shouldn't you pixel counters be on pc?
An UHDBR Drive would have been a good start. You make it sound like Sony was forced to release their console early. It was a choice they made. They could have easily waited if the tech wasn’t available to make it a better console.
Yup. As Death says... If BR drive was included then the price would have been 450. And few other tweaks here and there would have costed 500 and still a yr ahead. If they had done this a yr ahead, your tone would have been alot different. Xbox one x after 1 yr launch it still does the same... Doesn't it. Stop doing circles and stop counting those pixel counters here as well. Enjoy your gaming.
But it doesn't. It's down to $349 until end of year and I have never missed a UHD drive in the almost year I have my Pro now.
Game looks solid on the One X, it’s a nice jump up from the Pro.
Glad to see more games taking advantage of the extra RAM, not just higher resolution Over Pro. More RAM should have better assets like Texture quality, filtering, Shadows, lighting and overall LOD!
As developers get accustomed to the Xbox One X. I see the power gap increasing. Xbox One X is going to provide the best looking First Party games, third party games and indies. I also want to note that even if the competition launches the next powerful console. It won't be that different that what you get on the Xbox One X Today, from features like 4K blue ray to downloading assets and Xbox live. Xbox has positioned this console well ahead of its time.
Lol, the game runs at 4k with upgrades on the visuals but the power gap will increase? Lol. It will run at 8k next year and at 120 frames with a jag cpu.... What the x shows is that the ps5 will run easy all games at 4k 60 frames, because if somethin with 6teraflop does this imagine something with 10 or 12 with a better cpu. And yes it will be diferent because the lvl of AA and effects will be much better, it will have better AI more npcs on screen , more of everything
Most games will not run at 4K and 60 FPS next gen. Keep in mind games get much more detail with every gen. So I think 4K and 30 FPS will be the sweet spot with very high details on most games
Combatcash maybe you should educate yourself on the next iteration of amd and nvidia chipsets. 4k 60fps will definetly be the selling point of next gen consoles
Now where are those PC lovers. Somebody should have told this guy to go and buy PC first...
@Jukins Erm, neither platforms going to touch Nvidia ever again. Second, you really think a new console is going to have a high end set of parts in it? That's not how this works, they didn't land on the Jaguar cores because they were the best available at the time.
“best looking First Party games“ Wrong console.
You would think MS would have the best looking first party games. They have the most powerful console. They just need more first party games. Hard to have one without the other.
I don’t think you will see things change that much over time unless Microsoft improves the apis to take better advantage of it, still the x is already doing well.
I remember the days when 900p was good enough. Right? Gameplay blah blah blah.
"I remember the days when 900p was good enough. Right? Gameplay blah blah blah." Correct, 900p was and still is good enough on a 1080p TV. A 1440p on a 4K TV is like 720p on a 1080p TV...not good enough. This game here is 1800p with visual enhancements from the PC version on the X and 1440p with NO visual enhancements on the Pro. You do the math.
But like said "900p was good enough" "the xbox one s upscales to 4k its good enough" now xbots cant play anything under 1440p lmao fanboys will say anything to to feel part of team plastic box sad
You have no idea what you are talking about if you think 1440p checkboarded vs native 4k is anything close to as bad looking as a 720p game on a 1080p...
What!? Not native 4k?
I know right, every Sony fanboy said the X would play everything at native 4k and 60 fps!! Thank goodness no one believed them since MS never said that.
I was going to reply to that stupid comment, but you hit the nail right on the head LMAO. Solid post there. Man, the horses in the stable are going to go hungry with all these strong man being built around here.
That is correct. Phil already said this way back on Jun 16, 2016. https://ar12gaming.com/arti... [On the extra power crammed into Project Scorpio, Spencer also clarified that it isn’t just for pushing games to higher resolution, and that developers will “take advantage of that 6 teraflops in different ways”. “I think creative freedom and how you want to use the power of the box is something I support,” Spencer said. He also stated that Microsoft won’t force developers to run their games at native 4K resolution, and they would “absolutely be open” to using the console’s power in other ways. ] So I have no idea where this "but..but..still not true 4K comes from"..LOL
@NoPeace She has some notion stuck in her head that she was victimized by every xbox fan that said Xbox X would play EVERY game in 4k. Because of this reason she needs to be in an article for Xbox X that happens to not have a game in 4k and leave a "shocked" comment.
"What!? Not native 4k?" Ghost Recon 1800p = 360p away from 4K. 1440p = 710p away from 4K. The Evil Within 2 1800p = 360p away from 4K. 1260p = 900p away from 4K. Hitman Season 1 2160p = 0p away from 4K. 1440p = 710p away from 4K. Destiny 2 2160p = 0p away from 4K. Dynamic checkerboard 4K = what is that??? Not all "What!? Not native 4k?" are the same. I know which console I would want under my 4K TV. ☺
Sadly, Xbox One X couldn't help Xbox One to win November NPD. So that 35+ million gap got even bigger.
Console with games?
@lime and yet they still have fun with it. Some people don't need sales figures to enjoy their gaming. I for one don't give a crap if my system is in 1st or tenth as long as games are developed for it.