The racing game from publisher Sony Interactive Entertainment and developer Polyphony Digital - Gran Turismo Sport - sold 982,360 units first week at retail, according to VGChartz estimates.
Sounds pretty good.
Just a hunch but... if it was called GT7 it prob would have done double that. It's good but no doubt all the stuff coming out later will make it better. Would they release a GTS definitive edition?
Still pretty good sales for an online focused racer. I brought my copy 2 weeks after release, it's a fantastic game. It will be interesting to see lifetime sales.
If it was called GT7 it would have been criticized more harshly than it was for its lack of content and online focus.
@meganick, I don't think so. If it was GT7 then chances are it would have all that offline SP content (that seems to be coming out later) that a traditional GT game has. Their decision to be online focused was apparently the direction PD wanted to go. Critics didnt agree and now we are seeing them bring out content that tries to make it more in line with previous GT games.
the game maybe little light but the game does what it's suppose to do... the online is superb. i really thought it will happen like what happened to DriveClub with online in shambles but thank goodness, they've nailed it superbly. after you get your 'S' on sport rating, the online is a charm. you really don't want to go back to AI after racing with humans. i've taken a break this week from GTS because i've been participating almost every night on the FIA test races. they're amazing and it takes so much of energy/effort because if you screw up, you can't try it again because you're allowed one entry per day. i'm so happy i tried the demo and immediately bought the game because i actually wasn't planning to buy this game. i only started getting into the MP when the FIA started until then i didn't care much because i'm not much of a MP player. it felt so smooth when i tried the demo because i've been playing a lot of Project Cars and the damn AIs are nothing but homicidals. happy for the Polyphony, i'm sure they've sold more... considering the outrage for this game, i must say it's a very good start.
know what it does exceptionally well? competitive racing. a racing game that puts racing as it's most important quality...strange i know.
I think even if it kept the name GT sport but had the soon to arrive GT League at launch it would have done incredible numbers from the get go.
Everyday we have GTS Definitive Edition.
just like how they didn't release Driveclub definitive edition, I doubt it.
It's because it's not GT7.
I bought it last week. It is a little bare, but there is plenty to do. A load of challenges, enough tracks, amazing online cups. I am disappointed at the lack of cars though. I'm not a big racing fan, and haven't bought a GT since GT5....and the original GT years before that. Also I got it for less than 20 quid. Well worth it. Solid racing experience. Plus more content will be added for free with not one micro transaction in game.
I hear PD will throw in free stuff in upcoming upgrades..
the racing is intense and fun. First time i cared about racing properly without hitting others.
by now i think it's closer to or surpassed 2 million. as we know digital sales are huge
But for some reason some seem to think the other sold more!? No doubt Black Friday weekend saw a huge boost in sales.
it does not matter if the other one sold more which one is the better reviewed game? so who is playing the better game?
By that logic we Played Bloodborne and TLoU which are better than every MS exclusive because of reviews? It’s omay if F7 rated higher, but at least GT Sport is on the green side, meaning it is alright. Meanwhile, GT Sport is sellig wel and that matters more than reviews because ”Money” The “better game” is subjective pal
Better is subjective. Sales are a fact. Some people would argue that the more realistic physics simulation of not only the cars but the tracks and the emphasis on proper driving technique plus free content updates versus a MT based system makes GT Sport the better game.
@Platinum Just want to point out Forza 7 doesn't have MT's as of right now.
Gts is a brilliant game it's just sublime to play. The lower reviews were centered on content but I can assure you this title will be built up with constant additions.
Well, to be fair... this is the first GT game for the PS4 where as FM7 was the 3rd mainline Forza game for the XBO. Turn 10 has been quicker to churn out improvements to their games than PD. PD usually does only 2 GT games per generation but this gen they may have changed that tradition as well. People give MS crap for not bringing out more unique games but one thing they do deliver is games for the fans of those specific series. I mean this gen has seen 3 main forza games and 2 horizon games (even though #2 was also on 360). That is 5 forza related games in the 4 years the xbo has been out. Let's just say there are options for the xbo players when it comes to Forza but on the Ps4 there is no other choice for the GT fan.
@Jinger I'd just like to point out that Turn 10 said they were planned for the game. And that nearly every game Microsoft has released this gen has included MT's. That may change but for now the plan is to have an MT based economy for Forza 7 regardless of whether it's implemented at the moment.
@Condemnedman If it's so good, how come the wee launch sales were the lowest of all the forza franchises? plus at the launch of your upgraded console? I prefer Forza Horizon series over the motorsport ones. Been playing it for a while on my PC and the game is really good compared to what I saw with forza 6. never played forza 7 though.
What is that supposed to mean?
Curious to know if your going by critic ratings or user ratings? I have F7, its a slap in the face to forza fans. GTS has best racing on console. Its not a crash fest like forza has been since ever.
@Jing- I don't think Forza 7 sold poorly based on MT, I legit think it simply sold poorly for being a worse game then GT. Thats it.
Entirely subjective. Especially considering game journalists have proven themselves to be less than proficient at gaming in recent years. If you want to play whatever game reviewers tell you to play, be my guest, I'll make my own decisions. Now if you do want to talk review scores, Forza 7 was not only the worst selling Forza game, but the second worst rated in the series. I encourage you to try it though and decide for yourself.
@Platinum Fan Hence why I said "as of right now".
@Jinger FH3 also didn't have real money MT at launch. but after all reviews were said and done, they flipped the switch for it to have real money MT. the same will happen with Forza 7. those lootboxes are there for a reason and you knew the reason well
Lol, I'm sure those review scores are paying the bills right?
@darthv72 your right and Forza was the reason I got the xbox one over the ps4 when they both came out. I'm a big racing fan and I was willing to jump to the ps4 1st with Driveclub but when Sony said they put it back I got the xbox one with Forza 5. For me it was the best choice I made as every year its had a great racing game (5 was just ok) where the ps4 did not have as many. Its each to there own but for me Forza MS being out every 2 years is the reason I stayed with the xbox.
Not once have I though I needed to buy anything in forza 7 even if I could. Yea MT sucks but I hasn’t hindered the experience in terms of progression imo
At one point the GT series was selling upwards of 15 million copies. Now when people complain about all the microtransactioons and DLC going on just imagine how much pure profit they used to earn compared to now. Just think of how much it cost to make GT3 and how much they spent on marketing back then to what they likely spent making GT Sport and marketing this latest entry.
So basically if Forza sold way more than Gt yet had lower reviews, the mind set here would be different. Sad Forza isn't selling more but even more sad to always see the bs from the more vocal haters.
because some people equate critical reception with sales, there really isnt much relation.
I have an MT box for you. For you. Only $20!
By that logic Skyrim is better than The Witcher 3? Call of Duty is better than Titanfall or Battlefield? Even then, we don't know how well Forza did, Microsoft hasn't reported it's sales numbers. And this is from VGChartz, aren't they infamous for making shit up? Why are they suddenly a credible source?
GT Sport doesn't appeal to a casual audience and wasn't promoted as a system seller, at least to the degree F7 was. It's also technically on two systems if you include PC, which plays and looks awful.
I don’t count pc games only available on the Microsoft store since they are all god awful uwp applications.
Good for them...just a shame the game was lacking a bit compared to past instalments. I hope they do GT7 next...and actually call it GT7 making GT Sport a spin off.
GT League is coming this months.
Well you know me...I care about what we get at launch rather then later. Any game can get more content after launch.
Any game could get more after launch, but that rarely happens for free.
Free or not it's not the point. You can't release something lacking compared to the past game and then update it later but defend it by saying "bu bu but it's free". Considering the price of games in general it should be free, you've already paid for it and like I said when you paid roughly the same for the last one you expect at the same the same mount of content. Developers literally just have to big up the word "free" and suddenly everything is ok these days. Can't wait for when EA bigs up it's future "free" Battlefront II updates.
Nice try of a stealth troll. It's all there. Not sure what Gt7 would make different than the name. Sure, league should have need there from the start or at least should have been advertised from the start. But, hey, it's free and I was always hoping it'll come at some point. And in fact it's took me by surprise that it got released so soon after the game came out.
Stealth troll? Oh yes because I'm a massive Xbox fanboy me...Forza 7 FTW and all that jazz /s N4G: One day your one thing, the next you are the complete opposite.
If you must know, there are a lot of traditionalists who believe that keeping things in order applies to their understanding of improvements. Hence why is Sony keeping the numbering scheme with the PS systems if not to show that 4 is greater than 3? Many (who dont frequent sites like this) actually are fans of the GT games and know that each iteration in the series improves on the former. So 2 was better than 1 and 3 was better than 2 and so on. Yet with them removing the number in the name it throws off that sense of understanding that it is improved over the previous entry because.... there was no previous entry when you basically start over with a new spin off name. so to those people who follow that line of understanding, sport is no different than horizon would be to Forza. It is why many are wanting Pd to return to the numbered series ASAP even though it had been stated they likely wont. Over the course of the PS systems there have been few constant things and one of them was we always got 2 GT games per console generation. Since the Ps4 and now GTS it has thrown that tradition off. Will we get another GT game this gen or will this be it (and instead getting updates for it) until the PS5?
Those 1M people who bought that game will probably disagree with you...both
Well at least we can put this debate to rest GT Sport outsold Forza 7 significantly. Correction: I thought this was the monthly statistics. So I edited the comment.
When was it ever a debate
I'm sorry did you just join the site today? I'm pretty sure I have seen FallenAngel on the site for a while... Maybe that was FallenAngel1983...
Dafuq does that mean. It was never in question that Gran Turismo would outsell Forza
That’s pretty good. And who said retail sales don’t matter, hud ?
Nobody. You are just making shit up to have something to say. There's no man lilke a straw man for some of you folks.
I don’t think so. Some people in N4G do say that. Same goes with you, you do make thing up.
So, GT Sport the game that many critics tried to pan and give low review scores absolutely decimated Microsoft biggest release of 2017. This is going to be a tough pill for some people to swallow. I look forward to seeing where this game ends up. The first big free update looks fantastic, sales should continue to be strong based around those free updates.
The reviews should go back and re-evaluate. Biggest reason for the score was the single player mode. Now that's "resolved". Either they review that part separately or they should update the score
No lol You review the game at launch. You get your chance, if you fail to deliver when being reviewed tough tits Jeez you could do that with most games
Seriously Fox. Get over it. It's the content you get for the money. Day one or not. It's all there. The quality of the game is outstanding. You behave like a spoiled brat. But why doesn't that surprise me on n4g. GtSport is a great game. Stop ranting. It plays great, looks great. The content is there. Now you complain because you didn't get it day one? Yah, sign of the times, I guess.
Going off your aggressive comments here, you get over it I mean you’re going on how the game should be rereviewed, stupidest thing I’ve heard. That’s acting like a spoilt brat. Nice to see you’re one of those people on here who projects his flaws on others.
I got the game on day 1 and am still only about 55% through the 'campaign' The final level 5 challenge was awesome.
The reviews about the actual driving were pretty good, and given that the only thing that was keeping me from buying it was the lack of a SP campaign, I'll get it when the update comes out. I wouldn't mind some reviews coming out about the SP mode, just to get the word out that it exists.
Dude, you guys have an install base of over 65 million. Some one in that pool is going to buy it.
the PS4 install base is twice the size of the Xbox One's, but GT Sport sold 5 times the amount Forza 7 did. Do the math. As for your comment below, VGChartz ALWAYS bloats MS's numbers, as they have done since their conception, so if anything, Forza is being outsold even more. Continue to do the math.
2x the consoles 5x the sales.
It's not a tough pill once you understand that on PS4, the GT fans didnt have much of a choice but on xbo the Forza fans had like... 5. 3 main FM games and 2 horizon games. I only have FM5 myself (not the free one from GwG) so I dont have 6 or 7 yet. i may skip 6 and just get 7 but I am also a collector and i like having the deluxe editions with the nice steelbook case. I'm not sure if there was one for FM6....? but anyway, back to my point. this was the only GT game on PS4, chances are people who are fans will buy it. Now I'm wondering if we will get another GT game before the PS5 or will this be it until next gen?
Well I have to give you credit for thinking up a brand new excuse. What about Project Cars Wipeout XL DriveClub? Heck if you go to meta critic there are over 100 racing games on PS4. http://www.metacritic.com/b... C'mon man just suck it up quit making excuses and admit GT Sport outsold Forza 7 and it wasn't even close.
"What about Project Cars Wipeout XL DriveClub?"... what about them? I said if you are a "GT fan", not simply a racing fan. Notice i said the same about Forza when I could have said all other racing games on xbo as well. I wouldnt expect you to understand but... FM5 1st week was 350k in 2013 Horizon 2 1st week was 238k in 2014 FM6 1st week was 221k in 2015 Horizon 3 1st week was 406k in 2016 FM7 1st week was 176k in 2017 that is 1.39 million copies of Forza games sold in their 1st week when you combine them but that isnt the right way to look at it. GTS is the ONLY GT game is what i'm saying. I'd be willing to say had there been more time between each of those Forza games could translate into more 1st week sales because anticipation has a way of translating into people being interested in buying the newest release. As it is I feel the annual thing is getting tiresome. It's why I'm looking forward to the eventual release of Halo 6 and maybe Gears 5 because they are taking their time with them and not giving the annual treatment like Forza. you are right, GT outsold Forza and it's totally understandable when there is literally no other GT games for GTS to compete with.