Agheil writes - "Fellowgamers, for most it's obvious that Sony takes the cake when it comes to first party studios but I wasn’t really sure how big of a difference it was, then i found out. It’s big."
Ok there's no contest in terms of the volume of content. . . There's no debating that. . Sony's always had the statistics.
How so? It clear that there is a big difference
PlayStation domination when it comes to game studios of quality and quantity
Microsoft has a lot of catching up to do and part of their problem isn't just the amount but regionally.
There is a hugh difference. Plus Microsoft has a attitude. They are seeing SERVICES as the future. When I see single word Services, I see multiple words being hidden. In fact I see the PHRASE: RENT TO NEVER OWN. They envision OFFICE 365, instead of charging you 199 to own a new version of office every 6 or more years they charge you 119 every single year. $$$$
Obviously, suffice to mention the library of exclusive games such as Horizon Zero Down among many others.
that was some quick editing haha
lol :D I have to pick my battles.... There's no winning in this case. Why don't we compare them to Nintendo? ;)
@Wolly Nintendo has a great list of first party Ips but in recent years they have been using them well. Wheres the ext metroid prime??
Now I’m curious what the original comment was haha
@Agheil I said, "I would argue otherwise" :D . . @firelens Nintendo keeps putting out the highest rated games almost every_gen without third_party assistance...More frequently too. They re_invent their IPs almost every time. In my opinion, they're the 'exclusives king' considering they don't have as many partnerships as Sony does.. Especially when you dive into the quality of the software. . . some of the oldest IPs still kicking ass today.
@Wolly haha you could’ve left that up if you felt that way. It’s good to have both sides. :)
Nintendo is known for its legacy with its IPs, while Sony has also legendary titles in its portfolio but unlike Nintendo they bring more new ips every Gen. Nintendo has Quality, and Sony has Quality and quantity
Wooly, Nintendo recycle's the same IPs for decades (in the most refreshing and surprising way, each.and every time...) and rarely puts out a new IP, while Sony creates new IPs every single gen while having their own staples like GT/GoW/Uncharted + they pump out more games in general.
@ Woolly How old is Nintendo vs Sony? How many Ip's are dormant or forgotten by Nintendo? How many new Ip's has Nintendo introduced lately? Yes Nintendo makes great games but let's be clear they aren't reinventing the wheel and have dug into that well way too many times. There was a time when Nintendo was king that time has long past they have made many mistakes too many to count the Switch had to succeed or Nintendo would have been in serious trouble maybe not financially but the consumer would have been very weary of their future consoles.
Nintendo is like Microsoft .. both regurgitated the same ip for over two decades or more. Difference being that Nintendo IPs are more fun (at least to me). SO i dont mind them milking Marios Tits for another 20 years ... Zelda though i hope they jump off the Skyrim Wagon and make Zelda great again (2D style >> 3D)
@UltraNova I just know I'm going to get disagreed for this, but here it goes. Sony doesn't put out more games than Nintendo does. For first party releases we have I think 7 games from Sony this year (Horizon, Uncharted LL, Knack 2, GTS, Gravity Rush 2, Drawn to Death, and LocoRoco 1&2) note: I consolidated LocoRoco 1 and 2 Nintendo has produced 10 releases (Zelda: BotW, Super Mario Odyssey, Mario Kart 8: Deluxe, Mario Party Top 100, Splatoon 2, 1-2 Switch, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Kirby TC/BR/BB, Miitopia, and Arms) note: I consolidated all 3 kirby releases Just so you know, I only listed first party. I didn't list any second party, or games that were published by Sony/Nintendo but were made by third party developers (unless I made a mistake somewhere). I've calculated it out, and even if we included second party + published third party for both publishers Nintendo still released more games than Sony did. That being said I'm fully willing to admit Sony makes more IP's every generation than Nintendo does (by a lot). However, Nintendo does create quite a bit more new IP's every generation than people typically know; such as Geist, Eternal Darkness, Pikmin, Xenoblade, Pandora's Tower, Legend of Starfy etc. Wii U had the least amount of new IP's of any Nintendo system before it. Even the Switch has already surpassed it in number of new IP's.
I saw it. His editing was fast. Electricbanshi, Woolly_ went full xbot retard with his comment and got down voted to no end for being a clueless dumbass. I hope he learns from his mistakes.
Very cocky, aren’t ya ? Sony First Party Studios have a history about taking risk from small to big. Nintendo First Party Studio better than MS First Party, but Nintendo and MS do prefer safer route meaning they are both looking for big hit. Sony First Party Studio take a risk from left and right and they do lost of money because the risk. But they dare to face a new challenge. Like I said, Sony do go both way. Big and small.
I agree with most of that except. Nintendo takes LOTS of big risks. First major female action hero. You guessed it Metroid PRIME'S Samus! Nintendo Safe? Come on. Mario RABbIds not safe. Splatoon not safe. ARMS. In fact outside of Mario, zelda most of Nintedo's top games was all over the top risks. They don't seem like it now because they grew on us. Even their hardware is taking risks not safe.
Volume and quality. Sony has not only had more games their games have a higher average rating.
"Sony's always had the statistics." And the games. Don't forget the games.
They both have games. All the attention here seems to be on the half dozen or so that people focus on every year that grab the headlines. It's actually a small fraction of the amount of games they both get overall each year. It really is amazing how much time and effort some put into these titles to argue all day and every day why they support Sony over Microsoft. Meanwhile these titles are just bait because in reality we have years and years of built up resentment people can't let go of or move forward from. That is really the reason why discussions remain at a standstill. Can you believe we still have people bringing up old baggage like RRoD? Sure it's just about the games.
You are talking to Woolly, he is a well knowed Xboxfanboy, he will try to playdown Sony on a daily basis. So take his comments with a boatload of salt😉
@freshslicepizza They don't both have 'unique' games (or if you want 'exclusives'). That's they key difference. PS plays virtually everything that the XB does BUT has a huge array of first party titles across multiple genres. Only until 4 weeks back did it also have the best third party titles too but probably not until PS5 now. However, it STILL plays all those 3rd party titles very competently. Exclusives may not sell as well as CODs and FIFAs but they still sell well enough to make a large profit. There's a huge following for a lot of exclusives - just because the sales numbers aren't up their with the regurgitated sequels all the time... That's fact - not hatred. I've got an X and like the handful of titles I've got. Sincerely hope MS HAVE got plans for 2018/19/20. But no way would I lose my Pro with the release schedule that Sony have...
@freshslicepizza I have no idea what you are talking about. It’s a fact that Sony releases more games and higher quality games than MS. Whether or not some of those are “bait” is irrelevant. They might be “bait” to you but not to others.
Ill just refer you to metacritics study like I always do with fanboys especially Nintendo ones that shows over the last twenty years Sony has released the most highly rated exclusives compared to the other companies with "beloved" Nintendo coming in second and ms in a distant third
I need some water. It's no comparison
Microsoft could easily make all for its problems go away if it just made all of its 3rd party and 1st party games TRUE XBOX ONLY XCLUSIVES . Not only that but they need to buy their closest 3rd party studios rather than letting them pass by and go only to be bought by a Shitty company like EA i.e bioware, respawn.
Xbox - Inflatable Raft PlayStation - Cruise Liner
its not just the 1st party studios anymore you have to look at all the 2nd party partnerships they have. Insomniac is a 2nd party studio, david cage is working with sony under 2nd party partnerships than you have so many japanese partners many of current 1st party studios use to be 2nd party such as sucker punch. I see sony investing even more heavily moving forward because of how much sony has been making from playstation. One publisher to keep an eye on is Capcom(they have been having finical issues and according to some country laws in japan only a japanese company can buy another japanese company, forgive me if i am wrong but i read something like that a while back) i think sony will make another run at insomniac i think if Detroit become human is received well sony will try to buy qd and one smaller yet underrated developer bluepoint games could be next
Sony is light years ahead of Microsoft in quantity of titles, most are of excellent quality too, but Microsoft has an agreement that tries to prevent rush job cash grab games, and Sony does not. My.com said a while back that getting a game (Skyforge) on a Microsoft platform was a lot harder than doing it with Sony. The biggest caveat was that Microsoft had them sign a legal document that guaranteed the game remain on the Microsoft platform for at least a year, or not get released at all. Sony doesn't have anything like that, which is great for indie publishers and small companies, but terrible for their consumers because getting refunds for something that went belly up is virtually impossible. Case and point: Marvel heroes Omega.
Sony and MS have pretty much the same compliance standards as one another. The only thing I recall of any kind of curation of "cash grab" was from Sony itself, with that game a couple months ago that advertised an quick and easy platinum. They were forced to take it down, because it didn't meet their compliance standards. As far as I'm aware, MS did away with the one year exclusive requirement, and that was from last gen.
I've known for a while that Sony studios a jump and a skip ahead of microsoft studios.
Jump and skip ahead? haha maybe i just havent heard that phrase before
Yeah, micirost needs to catch up.
Sony studios "jumpt and skip ahead of Microsoft studios" in the days of the PS3. Now with the PS4 the Sony studios are killing Microsoft studios with great AAA GAMES and new IP's. Thats the true.
That though was long loool you made it clear. But yeah, sony hands down.
The list was So it’s crystal clear haha.
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Sony has a great line up but I need Halo in my life...
I respect that, I had a time where Halo was a big part of my gaming life.
The key word is "was"
NO HALO FOR PC sorry maybe next gen? ...nah
Halo was cool back in the day but it is now combat devolved
yeah i can respect that. Halo is not my cup of tea, personally i prefer gears. gears, halo, forza are certainly top quality games from ms studios.
haven't Forza sales dropped for each numbered instalment?
Halo is still the best multiplayer game to date. Still constant updates for new content. Halo still runs MLG still one of competitive console games to date....but I don't expect haters to understand...still wish my ps4 had a multiplayer game like halo....but starting to believe that'll never happen. But the Exclusives on the ps4 are still a millions buck to me Xbox needs to step up in that department.
Sony FTW. Their studios are simply better than Microsoft's, and there isn't anything really wrong with that It's just how it is.
One thing ia clear though, Turn 10 > Polyphony.
Just keep up the good work Sony. Gosh next year is gonna be crazy on the Ps4.
Which is crazy because this year has been crazy as well. Next year is going to crazy crazy.
It’s no contest
Sony's in a different league, it's not even close.
Lets do a bit of tinkering here Quality vs. Sony Industry & Gaming Journalists vs. Sony Honesty and Integrity vs. Sony Microsoft's critically acclaimed studios known and respected all over the world vs. Sony I think the choice is obvious. For the best gaming in the the universe,there is no choice more important than X.
That was the longest comment full of delusions I've ever seen on this website congrats
LOL. I love my Xbox, but that was HILARIOUS! Good one
Why pay homage to Sony's Killzone by having one of the Helghast soldiers as your avi seeing by your comments it's evident you're not a fan of Sony's PS or it's exclusives.Again with the same joke.
He’s trolling lol
Its not a Helghast trooper. My avi is from a NCR Ranger from Fallout : New Vegas. Its a great game,you should try one some day.
Quality- using the same game engines for 6 + years on the very tiny amount of AAA ips is not quality. Industry & gaming journalism is vastly owned or partnered with Microsoft. That equals nothing than manipulation and dirty tactics. Something Microsoft has been in court for several times. Honesty and integrity does not exist in any marketing advertising company as big as Microsoft. Too funny. Critically acclaimed? I’m sorry, what has been critically acclaimed from Microsoft studios? Maybe halo 3, but they are not known for anything to garner said statement. The x is only a machine putting make up on Xbox One games. As long as that weak piece of hardware exist, the x is doing nothing but making those games playable.
My launch PS4 is alive and well. Good on quality. Industry and gaming journalists are pretty confident in Sony doing a phenomenal job with PS4. We're good here too. Honesty and integrity? Well they did own the hacking of their network and made great strides to remedy the situation. They even made an apology at E3 where the world was watching. They also clearly define what's exclusive and what isn't. Best part: they didn't promise a cloud that was supposed to give you 10x your console's power. I think they're doing okay in terms of honesty and integrity. Microsoft has a few studios compared to Sony, some of which closed and only made the gap bigger. Naughty Dog alone has colossal value against Microsoft's studios. Also, if we're talking about internationally acclaimed studios, there's no conceivable comparison: Sony takes it. PC is probably the best place to play since it provides the greatest range and support, but you'd miss a hell of a lot more sticking to Xbox and PC than PS4 and PC.
Quality vs Sony? Are u actually arguing that a software company in Microsoft produces better quality hardware than arguably the finest consumer electronics company in the market? RRoD..Power brick..VCR... Industry/Journalists vs Sony This i never understood. How u guys think the North American media favors Sony over Microsoft. Sony is a Japanese electronics manufacturer who does its best business in Europe. Microsoft is an American software giant who basically owns North America. Virtually every PC runs Windows, Microsoft's influence cuts extremely deep particularly with the North American digital media, this is their wheelhouse. It just makes no sense why Microsoft wouldn't have the lion's share of influence in this department. Integrity? Like 2013 when Microsoft tried to implement a bevy of anti-consumer policies only to do a complete 180 and backtrack on everything due to public outrage. Or paying YouTubers to promote xbone while hiding the fact they were being paid by forcing non disclosure agreements. Or blatantly untruths and propaganda in regards to dx12, cloud tech, and secret sauce. Disparaging PS4 Pro and checkerboard rendering only to use it in your very own description of "4K Ultra HD" for your True 4K console. I could go on. Integrity is probably the one thing Microsoft lacks the most.
This sounds like an application to join MS, and a successful one at that. The worrying thing from your perspective is they get paid for their "fabrication of the truth. What's your excuse?
I would like to know what the hell you smoking dude 😂😂 I know you had to be laughing to yourself while writing this lol.