Agheil writes - "Fellowgamers, for most it's obvious that Sony takes the cake when it comes to first party studios but I wasn’t really sure how big of a difference it was, then i found out. It’s big."
I've known for a while that Sony studios a jump and a skip ahead of microsoft studios.
Jump and skip ahead? haha maybe i just havent heard that phrase before
Yeah, micirost needs to catch up.
Sony studios "jumpt and skip ahead of Microsoft studios" in the days of the PS3. Now with the PS4 the Sony studios are killing Microsoft studios with great AAA GAMES and new IP's. Thats the true.
That though was long loool you made it clear. But yeah, sony hands down.
The list was So it’s crystal clear haha.
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Sony has a great line up but I need Halo in my life...
I respect that, I had a time where Halo was a big part of my gaming life.
The key word is "was"
NO HALO FOR PC sorry maybe next gen? ...nah
Halo was cool back in the day but it is now combat devolved
Halo is still the best multiplayer game to date. Still constant updates for new content. Halo still runs MLG still one of competitive console games to date....but I don't expect haters to understand...still wish my ps4 had a multiplayer game like halo....but starting to believe that'll never happen. But the Exclusives on the ps4 are still a millions buck to me Xbox needs to step up in that department.
Sony FTW. Their studios are simply better than Microsoft's, and there isn't anything really wrong with that It's just how it is.
One thing ia clear though, Turn 10 > Polyphony.
Just keep up the good work Sony. Gosh next year is gonna be crazy on the Ps4.
Which is crazy because this year has been crazy as well. Next year is going to crazy crazy.
It’s no contest
Sony's in a different league, it's not even close.
Lets do a bit of tinkering here Quality vs. Sony Industry & Gaming Journalists vs. Sony Honesty and Integrity vs. Sony Microsoft's critically acclaimed studios known and respected all over the world vs. Sony I think the choice is obvious. For the best gaming in the the universe,there is no choice more important than X.
That was the longest comment full of delusions I've ever seen on this website congrats
LOL. I love my Xbox, but that was HILARIOUS! Good one
Why pay homage to Sony's Killzone by having one of the Helghast soldiers as your avi seeing by your comments it's evident you're not a fan of Sony's PS or it's exclusives.Again with the same joke.
He’s trolling lol
Its not a Helghast trooper. My avi is from a NCR Ranger from Fallout : New Vegas. Its a great game,you should try one some day.
Quality- using the same game engines for 6 + years on the very tiny amount of AAA ips is not quality. Industry & gaming journalism is vastly owned or partnered with Microsoft. That equals nothing than manipulation and dirty tactics. Something Microsoft has been in court for several times. Honesty and integrity does not exist in any marketing advertising company as big as Microsoft. Too funny. Critically acclaimed? I’m sorry, what has been critically acclaimed from Microsoft studios? Maybe halo 3, but they are not known for anything to garner said statement. The x is only a machine putting make up on Xbox One games. As long as that weak piece of hardware exist, the x is doing nothing but making those games playable.
My launch PS4 is alive and well. Good on quality. Industry and gaming journalists are pretty confident in Sony doing a phenomenal job with PS4. We're good here too. Honesty and integrity? Well they did own the hacking of their network and made great strides to remedy the situation. They even made an apology at E3 where the world was watching. They also clearly define what's exclusive and what isn't. Best part: they didn't promise a cloud that was supposed to give you 10x your console's power. I think they're doing okay in terms of honesty and integrity. Microsoft has a few studios compared to Sony, some of which closed and only made the gap bigger. Naughty Dog alone has colossal value against Microsoft's studios. Also, if we're talking about internationally acclaimed studios, there's no conceivable comparison: Sony takes it. PC is probably the best place to play since it provides the greatest range and support, but you'd miss a hell of a lot more sticking to Xbox and PC than PS4 and PC.
Quality vs Sony? Are u actually arguing that a software company in Microsoft produces better quality hardware than arguably the finest consumer electronics company in the market? RRoD..Power brick..VCR... Industry/Journalists vs Sony This i never understood. How u guys think the North American media favors Sony over Microsoft. Sony is a Japanese electronics manufacturer who does its best business in Europe. Microsoft is an American software giant who basically owns North America. Virtually every PC runs Windows, Microsoft's influence cuts extremely deep particularly with the North American digital media, this is their wheelhouse. It just makes no sense why Microsoft wouldn't have the lion's share of influence in this department. Integrity? Like 2013 when Microsoft tried to implement a bevy of anti-consumer policies only to do a complete 180 and backtrack on everything due to public outrage. Or paying YouTubers to promote xbone while hiding the fact they were being paid by forcing non disclosure agreements. Or blatantly untruths and propaganda in regards to dx12, cloud tech, and secret sauce. Disparaging PS4 Pro and checkerboard rendering only to use it in your very own description of "4K Ultra HD" for your True 4K console. I could go on. Integrity is probably the one thing Microsoft lacks the most.
This sounds like an application to join MS, and a successful one at that. The worrying thing from your perspective is they get paid for their "fabrication of the truth. What's your excuse?
I would like to know what the hell you smoking dude 😂😂 I know you had to be laughing to yourself while writing this lol.
Colbertinator, Are you for real? If you think that you are delusional.🙄
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LOL. I know you're joking but this one had me laugh. "Microsoft's critically acclaimed studios known and respected all over the world vs. Sony" So, MS two critically acclaimed and respected all over the world = 2-3 studios. vs Sony which equals how many...plus the publishing branches which don't have defined studios?
All over the world??? Japan is part of the world and nobody cares about any Microsoft games there and theres 2 choices that are better than the Xbox One X PS4/PRO and Switch the sales are phenomenal for both. Xbox One X is said to be in demand funny how I see it in stores all the time.
It's a shame, because at one time last gen, MS showed some great potential. These days they don't even seem to have any interest in this area.
Very true Bluefox. Indeed, after the success of the 360 in garnering a good market share, you have to ask what could have been if they had been managed a bit better. But the truth be told, they "managed" their way into their current situation. If that doesn't spell out their problems to the people in charge, I don't know what will.
Agreed, if you told me last gen that Microsoft's next console would get crushed by Playstation and wouldn't have any exclusive games I would have thought that you were crazy.
Really? Most people saw it coming as long as sony didn't release a year later again. 360 really went down the drain from 2010 onwards where as sony became the best they've ever been with amazing exclusives on ps3.
In 2013 Microsoft cut first party support for Xbox 360 and spent $1 billion on securing exclusives for Xbox One, yet four years later their latest console still comes up short in that department. In fact with the way Spencer speaks they’ve only recently just started putting in more effort in producing more first party titles.
And those first party titles are going to be delivered as games as a service... To them, not gamers.
And probably on the NextBox
Sony tries to make games for every genre. No debate their. if you like that kind of thing Sony is for you. I prefer sports racing and shooting Xbox is a no brainer for those genres and its the best place to play best version of multi-plat titles. I own the PS4 for the exclusives I do want to play on that console.
If you are into shooters and racers and want the best versions of multiplats, you should game on pc,............ I know but but what if you don"t like pc? but some want the best possible version of multiplats on console since microsoft announced x1x lol
What if I work all day on a PC and I like to get away from anything PC related when i relax.
As if it is too much to bare to turn on a computer, start a game, use a controller and play on tv after a working day sitting on a pc. Then turning on a console , starting a game, using the controller to play on your tv should also be to difficult
But up until a month ago PS4 had the best console multiplats yet i'm willing to bet you still favored xbone for the first 4 years, but suddenly "best version of multiplats" is your selling point. Funny. If that really was your concern you would've been mostly PS4 this entire gen. Sports fan huh? Baseball is a sport...
Of course I was an Xbox fan the best shooters and racing games are on the Xbox. I guess Baseball is a sport but its so damn boring.
The games don't play any better on Xbox One X than they do on a PS4 or PC. The only difference is resolution, and only if the devs decide to put in the extra work. A little bit of upgrade in graphics does not make a game more playable... The point of gaming. If you want to stare at pretty things instead of interacting with them, maybe art is more your hobby.
I'll tell you what does affect the enjoyment of games, though, and that's not sitting in lobbies for a large portion of your available gaming time. Xbox has less than half the install base, so it stands to reason that - coupled with the higher game sales on PS4 - multiplayer gamers would also prefer to opt for PlayStation, due to more players, less time waiting and more time gaming. A barely-visible visual bump won't fix that.
I agree, although I've fell out with multiplayer games of recent. The point is, gamers have been conditioned lately to care more about graphics than the actual games themselves, and a lot of publishers have got away with pushing monotonous shit out for a while now by trying to push gfx over solid, replayable, immersive games. Don't care if it's PS4, Xbox One X, Switch or 3DS, if your game is mindless bollocks, I'm not going to care how good it looks. Destiny is a good example of this, looked great, was less fun than watching paint dry after the first few hours.
Damn your gaming is boring as hell lol.
Sony definitely has more exclusives right now. I think it will slowly even out, Microsoft's Board in November just gave Phil the go ahead for a massive investment in game studios, both building them and acquiring them so they can build their exclusives. This will take some time but expect big announcements upcoming, probably first from acquired studios that have been working on games and years down the road as they build studios to create games.
"Even out"? So you think Sony is going to stop making games and allow Microsoft to catch up?
why would Sony have to stop making games? MS would just need to create more studios as Sony continues with the studios they have. If Sony just stopped then MS wouldn't have to invest anything they could just continue with gears halo Forza.
I won't even out. That would mean that sony had to stop all devlopement on their game for ms to even it out. And ofcourse we have to wait if this "massive investment" really gives birth to a load of quality games.
I think you don't seem to understand what people are saying. Sony has countless studios from Bend, Japan Studios, naughty Dog, sucker punch, Gg On top of that they have amazing relations with their second party studios like Kojima, Ninja theory and insomniac on top of bluepoint and others. All of this on-top of their new acquisitions like Bing who created lost Soul Aside. For MS to "even out" they would not only need to create new studios and acquire new ones but also start pumping out games like mad. And either that means alot more studios working one games at the same.time or less studios developing more than one game. But even then it will only trying to catch up. Sony has been working in its relations with 1st,2nd and 3rd party studios since ps3. Sony would have to stop creating and acquiring new studios for ms to catch up
M$ will make games and sell them as GAAS, meaning you don't own the games and the games will be online only. You're just renting them but you still pay full price. I'll stick with Sony. Thanks.
only one of their games will be GaaS and that is Sea of Thieves, gears halo Forza etc are not.
@gamer, I don't see it that way and I'll tell you why..... If there's anything m$ learns this gen, is that they can hype the hell out of their games and hardware and some people will still buy it. Case in point - crackdown, qb, recore, sunset overdrive and xbx. All the games are shallow just like m$ (because m$ doesn't develop the games and they don't care about the quality) and x is an obsolete piece of garbage. I feel sorry for those who buy it and expect pc level of gfx. They'll regret it, x can't even run "later" games in solid native 4K but my 2yr old mid range pc can run ALL the LATEST games at almost native 4K. Not forgetting all the empty promises like play the games in uncompromised true 4K, the unlimited cloud power, stacked gpu, unlocked core, dx12, bc is the future, 1b investment in game dev (which I believe was actually used in buying reviews), etc. So m$ is not going to "give" you the games, they have bigger plans. They want you to keep paying for the games but not owning anything. Even they let you have the hardcopy, it'll require massive mandatory day 1 patch, full of game-breaking bugs and probably with a lot of mts that will make stbf2's loot boxes look generous. I may sound like I hate m$ (actually I do for always prematurely abandoning their products and shady business practices), you cannot deny the fact that all they do is regurgitating the same 3 games year after year and just telling lies after lies. How many years have passed since we hear about all the promises and have any of they materialized? I'll tell you it's NONE. It's still the same as the day it was launched - no games and just a lot of promises. The sad people who spent their hard earn money and bought x just spend their time doing comparisons after comparisons. Seriously, no one expects x to have gfx worse than ps4pro, all these reviews are paid by m$ to hype up x. But it doesn't fix the real problem of xbox, it has no games. Doing what sony did will take too long and m$ is just not "that" type of company, so, GAAS is the only way for them.
Oh goody, more Spencer 'promises' to live off for the next year 👍
You don't need to listen to what someone says, you need to follow the money. The board and stockholders control the money flow, watch what that gets put towards and you will have your answer.
@Gamer7804 - OK, the money so far has went to high flying executive shareholders to inflate their already substantial investment portfolios. 6 new yachts have been bought, 14 have been upgraded and one guy bought another beach mansion in the Azores. Now how does this help the current X Box gamers?
@gamer I followed that billion they had for game development from back in 2014. It hasn't brought us 1 billion in games...which means either MS was lying, or they spent way too much on marketing. You're saying MS is doing something, and to watch the money flow, but as of yet, there hasn't been a single report that shows that the investors or board has approved such money to go into game investment. There is also no reports that MS has done any hiring for any new 1st party studios, and that would definately get some notice within the industry....yet it doesn't exist. MS did some hiring for an open world game, but that was it. Everything else has been rather mundane positional filling type of listings. If MS was opening new AAA studios, you'd hear reports of major names leaving studios, and going to either MS...or unnamed studios, however every major name in the industry that's left in the last 2 years can pretty much be accounted for in either their own studio, or picked up by some other developer. You're asserting above that MS is doing all this stuff, but in your comment here are just using the wait and see because it will show up in the future with no quantifiable evidence beyond Spencer's say so.....and you'll have to forgive the people here if they don't take Spencer at his word anymore. Personally, I feel it'd be better to keep the pressure on MS and Spencer to actually show progress. Continuing to hope that they will show it in a few years time just buys them time until they can make another promise to buy another 2-3 years. That's all MS has done this gen since the first year. Buy time with lies, misdirection, and empty promises. Hold them accountable and instead of hoping the money trail leads to new games, make them show those new games....and finally deliver them. Otherwise, in three years, we're right back here having this same conversation about how if we can just wait another few years, MS will finally have something to show. For all the grief that Sony got over delaystation at the start of this gen, I'd expect more Xbox fans to be furious with MS and how they can't even support the console well enough, and decide that promoting new more powerful hardware is somehow a good way to get back in the gamer's good graces. Sony has set a high standard for what 1st/2nd party publishing should be, and it looks like Nintendo is going to outpace MS next year by a rather wide margin. Nintendo is actually competiting against Sony more than MS, and they're doing that with games, so at least I can respect Nintendo despite their quick drop of the WiiU.