Few starships are more fascinating than space carriers. Since the time of the TCS Tiger's Claw in Wing Commander.
This has to be the biggest money sucking scam in history. On the level Madoff and Enron. I am so glad that I didn't donate. .
If you didn't donate then you shouldn't comment on it. The people who paid knew it was a crowdfund and it would take time and I see more people who didn't contribute complain more than those that did. It's not a damn scam if they show active development and always showing new shit.
People have a right to comment on what they see even if they didn't pay up. I paid 35 dollars and downloaded the version they have for download and regret it immediately cause if that s*it took them so many years this game will be playble at 3018... If ever... I hope for the sake of all the backers money that I'm wrong but there is one thing I'm definitely not wrong about... This thing is so bloaded that is destined to be a disappointment...
I donated and must say that what's there isn't all that promising. This may not be a scam but I feel like these devs bit off way more than they can chew and won't be able to deliver.
@Ikenda you need to do your homework better than. They tell you exactly what you're getting currently with your $35 and it's not hard to do a little research to figure out where the game is currently. That's why I have yet to give any money to them and jump in. However, In about a month the live Alpha 3.0 is likely to launch and I can almost guarantee that you won't regret your purchase after that. They are completely transparent about what they are doing and how they are going about it.
That’s yet to be determined, many games have had comparable budgets with multiple delays... some good and some bad. There hasn’t been a crowd funded game at this level yet, I’ll wait and see how it turns out before spending a cent.
Sorry Star Citizen i prefer to give my money to Elite: Dangerous. I'll even buy some paint jobs for my Python to support the devs a bit more. Why? Because they gave me something to play. That's why we call them video games and not video videos. I can watch syfy videos on youtube for free...
"Why? Because they gave me something to play. That's why we call them video games and not video videos. I can watch syfy videos on youtube for free..." You realise you can play Star Citizen dont you??? You cannot have made that comment and genuinely not realised that the game is actually playable right now.
I played it my friend. Have you? You call going around in empty space stations and empty space with nothing to do playble? There is nothing to see or do in there except some pretty graphics. This is a video from my channel of me "playing" the game on Android with remote play for proof... https://m.youtube.com/watch...
@Ikenda Are you actually going to try and pass that video as the entirety of the alpha? Are you really going to be that dishonest?
This isn't a game, it's a reality show. A very, very expensive reality show.
Was super stoked to pledge to the original Kickstarter, however I always wonder how much they would have recieved in crowdfunding if they had been honest back then and said 'look guys, we're building a game, it'll be ready in about 7 years time, and their isn't a pc currently available that is capable of running the release build even at low settings'....
I wonder if they knew how long such a massive undertaking would take. My guess is they didn't. It's not dishonest to tell people that you're going to make something that has never been done before and do your best to do so in a timely manner only to find out that it's going to take a lot longer than you thought. I'm sure they didn't want to spend this long getting the ground work for the game done but the reality is it took them a very long time but they are now in a position where that ground work has been laid and they can really start expanding on it in the game.
"there is one thing I'm definitely not wrong about... This thing is so bloated that is destined to be a disappointment..." Agree 100% "This isn't a game, it's a reality show. A very, very expensive reality show." Agree 100% Games should provide a finite build and a logical extension. Extending too much can bring a full game into disarray. This could turn into a biblical scam reaching the proportions of Madoff and Enron. The reason is quite simple, there is no compromise of a date and full delivery of a product. This is a constant sum of features, show offs and self palming in the back without a coherent concrete result. The credibility of this project is in a true upheaval of skepticism and doubt. The legitimacy of it is in a downhill of many mysteries and unanswered questions. This can turn out into the biggest scam of the decade. Bliss is a terrible form of scam too. I want to see a good game but right now what I see is a big illusion of a fragmented overambitious project who tries to be the jack of all trade, master of none.
If this were under development under a major publisher it would have been scrapped a long time ago.
That's kind of the point of them using crowdsourcing. If this was under a big third party publisher you would have never even seen these type of features implemented instead you would have saw the game Dumb down to release on multiple platforms all at once rushed on finished and with a bare minimum of features.
Which is why no game developer has ever had the balls to try something like this...
"without a coherent concrete result"... What do you call the public Alpha 3.0 that is currently under testing and can be seen all across youtube for the last few weeks? The Alpha that is feature locked and working closely to becoming an open public Alpha for all backers? The very same Alpha that has at least 70% of the games plethora of features included and playable? That seems pretty concrete to me. It's always funny to me that people claim to know how to make a video game of this scope when nobody ever has and especially not through crowdfunding. Most games with this large of a budget get floated around and worked upon for many years before actually being taken on completely by a team. That all occurs in the background and then it's even more years after that before the general public hears about the game. Never before has a game with this kind of budget and scope been created entirely from it's inception with the public eye watching every step of the way. Any comparison or attempt to explain how a game like this should be made are completely mute. This is literally a massive experiment. Can a company with no financial backing initially pitch an idea, receive that funding, and then actually develop a game this large while the entire world is watching every step of the way. No company has had to do this. I'm sure Chris Roberts wished he could have developed this for many years before showing it to the world but the fact of the matter is he needed the funding which required him to show the world his idea when it was still in it's infancy. Since then he has been nothing but honest and open. More open and transparent than any other game developer out there. And yet that seems to make people hate Star Citizen and distrust it. It's the sad irony of the situation.
Game looks fantastic but 171m? Come on.
Star Wars the old republic cost more money while having less features...
If you are talking about "let's pretend" features then I agree.
@bob- ok, regardless the features that this game has already proven it could Implement is beyond anything inside of Star Wars the Old Republic.
I'll never buy star citizen. It's getting too big and over ambitious. The time to make the game and development costs that are so huge it's going to collapse unless it's a 10million seller
Why on earth would you say you are never buying a game that's not even out yet? What if it eventually comes out years down the road and its amazing? I'll bet your opinion on "never buying" the game would change. What an ignorant statement...
I am going to start a fund for my game. This is an absolute SCAM, and people are still throwing money at it. UNless Jeff Bezos is contributing (to him this is pocket change) then the people sending money are just dense. This 'game' is never coming out.
What I do not understand is why people keep calling this a scam, they have shown various times what their development looks like, and what exactly (as of recently) their actual development timelines are. I only pledged the base package back in the day, and I always chime in every now and then. I always am happy to hear that progress is always MOVING forward because we should be WANTING (almost all) video games to succeed, not to fail. People only see it as a scam because of the various setbacks, delays, and length of development. But to be frank, I think people are only saying this because they reveal so much of their development. Then people go based off of headlines and say, "What a scam" without digging deeper. People backed this game because they believed in a dream, and the creator, Chris Roberts, has some credibility for the space sim genre. I am not denying that they have had set too many unrealistic goals and probably spent money where they should not have, but most of the time, they seem to be delivering and updating us as often as they can. And hey, if it either never comes out or doesn't live up to expectations (this seems the most likely of the two predicted "failure states"), then that's that. It's a dream project, so I paid money full well knowing that it could be a failure. In fact, Kickstarter never guarantees success, and it is always where the backers DONATE to support this dream. I treated it like Early Access back in the day (which I already VERY rarely do besides the odd game here and there), I should not be upset if the product ends up not delivering because I am taking a risk and am full aware of the consequences. If people are upset about spending money, then that is there fault. I am pretty sure we've all spent money on something and have been disappointed. Perhaps on things that they spent more money on than this game. But besides that, this is just a passion project. I have never been more disappointed than enjoyed at the new goals achieved by this game because I like to see games be completed. And finally, the length of the development is purely contextual. One, they reached this goal overtime and not in an instant; however, they did reach a fairly sizable amount off of Kickstarter along and is what jumpstarted it all. Second, the development time for a title like this is not terrible actually, considering much larger companies take quite a long time as well when developing games. And third, the development time has been split because they did not have the full team they have now at the beginning in 2012. Based off of the third point, that's also when goals shifted and changed as they got more successful. Overall, I am just happy to see the project moving forward, and hopefully we do see a day when Star Citizen is released. If that day does not come, then life moves on. It's not like I devoted my entire life savings to this game because I knew the risks, and decided to just go with the base package to start off.
Amen.... As someone who has not backed this game in any way financially I'm grateful to those who did so that something this amazing can at least be attempted. I don;t see why every gamer that loves space and exploration games isn't rooting for this game to succeed. Why on earth wouldn't everyone want this game to become a reality? I get that at this point it still seems like a dream that may never completely materialize but I have watched the development of this game quite actively for the past year and have seen the immense progress that has been made. I can't wait for Alpha 3.0 to finally go live so everyone can actually get a taste of what the game has to offer on a small scale. That day is close. Very very close... ...and I couldn't be more exited.
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