Back in the day if someone wanted a game, all they had to do was log on to LimeWire or Kazaa and then download it with ease. Times have changed and now it's no longer worth the effort.
Games on PC are becoming the same price as consoles too. Makes the PC redundant and pointless to buy as a gaming machine.
You think PC is redundant as a gaming machine, just because the games cost the same? Clueless much? PC still has better visuals and performance than any console, superior controls, free online MP, practically universal backwards compatibility (including console games with emulators) and far better mod potential. You can also use any controller if you prefer it over KB+M, including old school ones like the SNES, N64, or GC (with an adapter). Consoles are great for their exclusives, but that is about all. They are not even close to making PC redundant.
I still get my free games and it ain't that hard. Actually possibly easier since download speeds are as fast as steam sometimes. But you can go back and forth. I just have the luxury to play all consoles and pc. On consoles I trade in all my games and systems when I'm done. So it costs isn't as high as some people think. You can't really trade back a PC game and it's not as easy to sell back pc hardware. I literally just take my stack of games and system and walk out the door in 15 minutes. It's not a 15 minute ordeal on the pc side.
But why would you spend 2K on doing all that when you can get an XB1X, a cheap android box and have 1.5K leftover?
Because on PC all multiplats can be free if you choose to go that route. You only need to buy the online games. And the settings on Xbox X is pretty lame. Because you can play all multiplats on 4k and 60 frames with other graphical settings on PC. Xbox X sometimes is 4k but 30 frames and sometimes is 1080p or 1440p on 60 frames. You can't choose. That right there is worth the extra system cost. Plus the X doesn't get all the exclusives. Getting a PC with a PS Pro covers your base better. Also not a huge difference in cost. I mean you spend like $1k extra give or take extra and you are set the entire generation.
@zb1ftw777: You can build a PC that is as good as or slightly better than the X1X for around $800. The days of needing a $2k PC for decent gaming ended around 2001.
What an ignorant statement, but you are entitled to your wrong opinion.
Even tho i disagree with the OP statement, i must point out there is no 'right' or 'wrong' when it comes to opinions. Each person is entitled to have one, no matter how silly it may sound to you or me.
What are you even talking about? For one thing, games on PC are cheaper, secondly what Haurus said. Your logic is literally non-existent.
" For one thing, games on PC are cheaper " Depends on what version of the games you are buying (retail or digital), and let's not forget console folk can buy second-hand games, that drop drastically in pricing 2-3 months after the launch. If anything this gen, the prices are more-less the same if we take everything into consideration.
MrVux000 Retail for PC is pretty much non existent & represents a extremely small portion of sales, legit sites like CDkeys have brand new games games that are $20-$30 cheaper than Steam/Retail to preorder/at launch, not months after.
@MrVux000 It's not the same at all. The digital prices of console games are almost always higher than digital PC games.
Sure they're the same price at launch but they drop drastically afterwards something you don't see on digital console games
"Sure they're the same price at launch but they drop drastically afterwards something you don't see on digital console games" Surprisingly this gen, consoles digital games stores managed to go toe-to-toe with most PC-based selling platforms like GOG and STEAM, and they also have a price drop post launch (digital). If you count second hand sales, the prices are even lower then both console and pc digital deals.
Ah FFS, I just went and spent months building my own PC worth thousands as a fun project which also happens to offer the best gaming experience possible.... now I guess I'm forced to sell it on ebay as I just cant imagine paying console game prices....... /s but seriously, own a console for its exclusives and if you can build a good PC and experience what it has to offer too, chances are you have a basic laptop or pc anyway which you use for all the other shit like browsing the web, photoshop etc, that surely cost you a little too? put that $$$ toward something you can do everything on.
lol......not only inaccurate, but you make no sense.....as usual. BTW, I get 8 or so games a month with humble bundle monthly. $10. This month included Quantum Break. That is 8 games, including QB, for less than the cost of a used copy of QB alone. Facts are not your friend.
Except the part where it's way more powerful than a console, the free online, the massive versatility, the ability to consistently play at 60+ fps, the upgradeability, the massive catalog of games that dwarfs the consoles. Just a few reasons off the top of my head. Oh yeah, and you're original statement is flat out wrong.
"Makes the PC redundant and pointless to buy as a gaming machine." So the same price point for games makes a platform X redundant in comparison to platform Y? I'm all for different opinions, but there are plenty of other factors aside from HW/SW prices that can determine the platforms value for the user.
With respect, I have to disagree and am astonished anyone could come to that conclusion. I find that sales are more prevalent and often steeper on pc, theres a greater number of titles available, there are more graphical tweaks possible, modding is more widely supported, keyboard and mouse is fantastic for certain genres, load times can be quicker and frame rates are far superior. Sure, a lot of this depends on the machine, but that's all part of the draw for PC gaming; hardware flexibility and customisation. It's those frame rates in particular that are important to me. I never want to go back 30fps. Even more surprising for me is how good 120fps looks. I would never have believed anything over 60fps would make much of a difference until I saw my son's rig running games at those rates. It's just gorgeous, even though from a technical perspective nothing has changed (resolution, textures) it still somehow looks better. It's one of those things you have to see to believe. Don't get me wrong, I love my PS4 but PC is gonna be my main platform for the time being.
PC exclusives have yet to be priced at $60.00. There are games that went pretty cheap rather quickly this year: Prey cost me $30.00 Evil Within 2 cost me $27.00 (tax included) Amazon Cyber deal for all platforms Asssassins Creed Origins $30.00 during Steam Fall Sale Amazon has done an excellent job of selling console games at rock bottom prices. So no, I strongly believe that once console hardware is gone, games will be cheaper
So we best stop the hardware progression because they are matching game prices of consoles. Excellent logic, up next, how to go full retard.
Both your statements are pure nonsense.
Wrong. PC games are cheaper almost half the price on release If you know where to buy your games from. For example the new shadow of war was priced at 30 bucks at launch on some websites for PC.
And yet PC is the backbone of gaming. Your PS4 and X1 consoles are AMD boxes with the Playstation and Xbox logos attached to them.
By your logic then consoles are redundant also.
"It isn't worth the effort" If you say so.
I have no idea what this author is talking about. Sounds like to me, they have been out of the loop too long. Only 1 of the 5 points are true. 5. Crack down on torrent sites? Torrent sites are like drug dealers. You take one out today and tomorrow two more pop up.(often just changing domain names) 4. Developers trolling pirates. LOL. What? A handful of games in a sea of millions?.. Next! (Only idiots post to a msg board without first doing a little research) 3. (My favorite)Advancements in Anti-Piracy Technology. Even the "Mighty Uncrackable" Denuvo...Well this speaks for itself https://arstechnica.com/gam... 2. Way Too Time Consuming. If you know nothing about pirating and are just trying it for the first time, then maybe. But for the reasons the author states, a vet would have no issue with. They know the sites, they know the scene, who's releases are trusted and who's are not. (CODEX anyone?) 1. Online Stores Have Made Them Cheap. This one is absolutely correct. There are plenty of places to buy your games cheap. Even on pre-orders and release day you never have to pay retail. I admit it is easier and more secure to buy legit from a store. But that in no way means pirates have raised a white flag and given in because "It's just too hard".
Either way, piracy is pathetic.
Yeah, this guy is either engaging in wishful thinking, or he's really clueless. It's easier now than ever to find whatever floats your boat out there, and that very much includes fast bittorrent delivery.
I have pirated movies and tv shows but now I only pirate sports he he he. Yes I am still a pirate.
I believe piracy is becoming relevant again thanks to games being released incomplete, with DLC, loot boxes, microtransactions. If you add everything up, games are more expensive than ever. Many people claim DLC is just robbed content from their purchased games and they're justified to pirate it back.
There's no moral justification for piracy. What you did there is called "rationalization" (not "reasoning"). I'm no saint, so I can't judge how others use the internet. But don't try to justify this.
Your morals are your own. I also agree that piracy is wrong, but those are my own principles. If you believe in an objective morality, then tell me, where did these morals come from?
It is criminal behavior. No different than shoplifting.
So it's okay to steal based on your percieved value of a product? Glad your parents raised you with such great values/s
Damn greedy developers
I think that's why people continue to pirate games. They want to send it out incomplete so they can just amke more money off of foolish people (not always their fault) who want more for the game. Almost like going to the movie theater and having to pay extra to see how the movie ends - we'd all be upset, yet that's what a ton of developers (or publishers) are doing. Not to mention, demos have become almost non-existent; so, it is a good way to test out a game first. Seeing as most games, now, remove many features from the game when you're not connected to the internet. I also can't blame people for pirating certain games that instill shady tactics.
TL;DR Didn't say piracy is ok - just observations. I buy games - not my business what others do.
When you see how the publishers in the gaming industry treats the consumers and how they do their best to nickle-and-dime us gamers with their games, I can completely understand why anybody would pirate games.
If you don't play online, pirating might make sense. However, it's really easy on PC and Nintendo systems (bar the Switch) and probably only worth the effort on them. The PS4 and Xbox One have held up pretty well.
pirating movies on the other hand...worth it.
In these days where demos are getting rarer than unicorns, I'd say it's worth it, if you want to try a game out on your PC before buying it.
Largely because of steam, the only time I've pirated a game in the past few years was one that wasn't available on steam. I did pirate a good few games back in the day, but I dunno, I just find myself generally feeling like I'm better off saving the hassle by spending a couple bucks to get a legit version that I'll own forever with a totally clear conscience. Idk how common / uncommon that thinking is, it's just what I find works best for me personally.
"Crackdown on Torrent Sites" really now LOL. I find this very funny. Example. Extra Torrent very popular torrent site just vanished one day. Now it's back under .ag domain. kick ass torrents gone but guess what? It's back up under a different domain. Best site to use is RARBG. There are just so many torrent sites you just cannot keep up. Plus if all torrent sites go away no problem you can use newsgroups which have been around since the start of the internet and will never go away. Probably a small fee per month but worth it. "Way Too Time Consuming" what are you stupid? You find the torrent you want, download it if you like overnight, it will be done especially if it's popular. 50GB + no problem especially when you have FiOS hehe ;) RARBG site is very strict on what you can upload. You will have your IP banned if you upload crap or anything less than a DVD rip. If it's on RARBG you can rest assured that it's clean and legit. "Advancements in Anti-Piracy Technology" Well I'll give them that but, like all good things it will come to an end :D A bit more time and Assassin's Creed Origins along with Battlefront II will be cracked.. I'm ready XD Other reason's are not worth to comment on just a waste of time lol. Also best reason to use them, Netflix / Amazon rips for free :D They are always uploaded the same day in a matter of hours, as soon as the show airs it will be up. Don't forget wait a week or so you can have your 4k 2160p rips :D
Xbox 360 games can be free too. Not xbox one yet. Just give it time. PS4 games can be free too but only offline.
The only point the article gets correct is that online stores are cheap however developers have started that if you're buying from g2a you may aswell be pirateing the game.
Never pirated for the simple reason I don't have time to play games I already have to be honest. Its one of the curse of being an adult with a job and family. You now get the money to buy every console and games but time is in such a limited supply.
It's actually easier to pirate games today then it was 10 yrs ago...last year i updated someone's modded xbox (original) with coinops 8 that came with 4000 games. Granted, they're all old but great games spanning several consoles and it took me a week to download based on my 10mbps internet speed but still, it wasn't that hard to find... I won't go that route again because it was indeed time consuming and there are easier, faster ways of getting retro games, just do a search for raspberry pi gaming and you're good to go....just this week i bought a pxp handheld gaming device (yes, a bootleg psp looking handheld from china) for $17 and it came with about 200 16bit games...for $17 it suits my needs for traveling or waiting in long lines somewhere....as for new games for today's consoles, show me where i can find Wolfenstein 2 for $5 bucks and i'll say the author has a point...until then, cheers to the pirates matey!
Pirating software, games or otherwise leaves you open to having your machine hacked. It's a classic trojan technique.But of course, you guys will swear you've never been hacked this way, but you have. A technique used way, way, back, was to go into an office and leave a floppy disk on a desk,then just leave. The disk was labeled as a popular game. Yep, it did have the game on the disk, but it also had... Well, that's a very long time ago, but the idea, it still used today.
Same old shit on every gamer forum. Arguments about graphics... When games were about gameplay we had good games. Now they're about fps and resolution, the majority have no soul. There are great games on every machine, but the ratio is declining due to these idiot tech junkies. And £800 for a graphics card to run the games at their best these days? I'd rather play a console, despite always being a PC gamer.
No matter how tedious it gets to pirate a game, someone somewhere will value the time spent getting the game FREE more than time spent earning the money to buy it.
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