CDPR's: Worry not. When thinking CP2077, think nothing less than TW3 — huge single player, open world, story-driven RPG. No hidden catch, you get what you pay for — no bullshit, just honest gaming like with Wild Hunt. We leave greed to others.
"Worry not. When thinking CP2077, think nothing less than TW3 — huge single player, open world, story-driven RPG. No hidden catch, you get what you pay for — no bullshit, just honest gaming like with Wild Hunt. We leave greed to others." GOD DAMN! Now that's a response! CP2077 is a day 1 title for me. Thank you CDPR for not supporting bullshit practices like those publishers do. Take note EA/Activision/Ubisoft/Take 2. That's how you make us gamers happy.
I hope they pull it off. Usually when a single player focused developer decides to add multiplayer/online in their games they sometimes bite off more then they can chew which effects the single player compared to the last title. We've seen it happen before and yes they are great developers but because they haven't done something like this it's a nail biting wait and see scenario. I still hope the online is a second thought and the single player comes first. I want it to feel like a single player games like the Witcher 3 but with the online as an extra rather then a lot of games this gen where you have online focused games which are made to look single player aswell but the single player is just a front for the main online show.
Well, looking at that tweet they just made, am fairly confident we will have an awesome single player component comparable to Witcher 3 alongside a multiplayer component. And Multiplayer can be awesome if done right so i say, lets reserve our judgment on the multiplayer aspect until we see the game.
ND managed to do that feat with U2 with regards to SP and MP that didn't impact SP negatively. No reason why Red can't I have followed them and listen and read their interviews. Red is one of the rare types of devs that don't bullshit anyone. They are not happy with just doing things easy. They are not happy in just doing things already done. They go way out of their comfort zone in trying new things. In many way Guerrilla games are following their lead and why Red congratulated them when Horizon was released. Make no mistake. Cyberpunk is going to set a new standard in gaming once it releases.
That's exactly what I'm worried about so I'm really hoping that they bring in a networking team because I personally don't really like what I'm hearing about multiplayer features in this game. I'd rather the same just focus on single player.
Witcher 3 is overrated.
Even if the game is mediocre I’m buying for the cause. That’s where we are at with the gaming industry in 2017.
they should just rip off dark souls' bloodstain mechanic. half the industry already did anyway.
I might just go buy another copy of witcher 3 just for that :)
You can see Horizon Zero Dawn did same thing like Witcher 3.
I mean technically speaking Electronic Arts Ubisoft and even Microsoft is giving free season passes to huge content for some of their games talk to me when CD projekt Red gives all the expansions completely for free. . Trust me I understand what you're saying but if you look at what multiple companies have done to my understanding CD projekt Red is not out here giving you a free expansion. Their quality is through the roof but let's not just pretend as if other Publishers have not been giving away free season passes If CD projekt Red gives out the expansion completely for free, then we could say they are doing what Electronic Arts Ubisoft in Microsoft have done... Until then they are actually still selling their expansions. I don't know about you but I would love for them to just announced that the expansions for the game will be completely for free for all users! Heck if evil Electronic Arts and evil Ubisoft in evil merciless Microsoft could do it why can't CD projekt Red? 🤔🤔🤔 129300;
The base Witcher 3 game, without the expansions, has more content than any modern EA game does even *with* expansions. It's not like they're trying to rip people off in anyway, unlike EA is constantly trying to do. EA literally updated the roster on a Vita version of FIFA and then sold it as a new version of FIFA at full price. They're hated for good reason.
.... Did CD projekt Red give the expansions for free? Very simple
@EDmix I can see you're trying too hard to spin this in your narrative but I'll bite. The way Witcher 3 handles expansions is the same way they were handled back in 1999. You got a full game, and 2 expansions priced appropriately that were themselves full expansions and not some sodomized crap. There's nothing wrong with that because that's how it should be done to this day. With EA, Microsoft, and ubisoft. You're getting a game that's incomplete, rushed to deadline, and has bare minimum content to pass as a full game, with MTs and tons of exploits designed to get you to pay more then a season pass ever would. What EA/MS advertise as "No season pass" actually means you'll end up paying more for less of a game if you do buy into their schemes. Even if you don't buy a single lootbox you're left with a slog and grind designed to break you down till you do buy into it. The simple fact that almost every game from every top publisher is online-only speaks for itself. Hell, right now if you check the recent Battlefront controversy everyone is against the no season pass thing EA has done because of the lootbox replacement every god damn publishers keeps shoving in. On a financial side they are going to always try to maximize profits no matter the cost due to the way their company is structured, CDPR isn't structured this way. On top of that all of the pieces of content for Witcher 3 that EA would've charged for each and every one of was given for free. You say CD project is greedy because they charged for an actually complete set of expansions for once but your ignorance is basing that line off of what other publishers have done to tarnish what expansions have become. https://i.redd.it/9kkwr211e...
@Rachel- thats nice. " What EA/MS advertise as "No season pass" actually means you'll end up paying more for less of a game" Sure bud. With CDPR you're getting a game that's incomplete, rushed to deadline, and has bare minimum content to pass as a full game, then charged for 2 expansions that should have been in the main game. "On top of that all of the pieces of content for Witcher 3 that EA would've charged for each and every one of was given for free" There expansions were free? CDPR charged for those 2 expansions..... Titanfall 2, Rainbow Six Halo 5 etc giving free maps and DLC...so are you sure EA would have charged? http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... https://www.cinemablend.com... http://www.ign.com/articles... I mean...yup EA WOULD NEVER give anything away for free (besides all the maps to Titanfall 2, Battlefront 2) and... https://www.gamespot.com/ar... So sure....they would never give them for free, besides the times THEY GAVE THEM FOR FREE... If I had zero links for you regarding this, sure, your right. EA NEVER does that....but facts show that is wrong. Facts show it is CDPR that has not released Witcher 3, with ALL content free post launch. That isn't not true and clearly we can see that. The point being made, is BOTH are going to sell content to make money, some clearly have no issue giving away entire expansions for free, some will charge for that. CDPR for a fact charged for those 2 expansions. Yet it is EA, Ubisoft and MS with several titles that have FREE MAPS and expansions for the life of those titles. When CDPR MEETS that level of support, then we can talk. What you personally, EMOTIONALLY feel about those titles is irrelevant to facts. fyi. I own Witcher 3 day 1. lol, did you think me owning the game would make me also lie about damn facts? " You got a full game" LOL! You can't say you got a "full game" anymore then you can say EA or Ubisoft etc made a "incomplete" game. Sorry but those reasons apply to both, you seriously didn't realize that? Look, "OH 2 expansions for game XYZ? you mean the rest of the game charged to consumers? smh" So " You got a full game" is based on a subjective view, not a objective fact. What is a "full game"? Can you objective define and prove this? In the same respect, can you prove anything else is a "incomplete" game? lol Its a dumb argument and can again apply AGAINST even CDPR. ie they cut content to SELL expansions. You know not of what content was "cut" to sell you later on any game, CDPR, EA, Ubisoft, MS, Sony, Nintendo etc.
@EDmix "With CDPR you're getting a game that's incomplete, rushed to deadline, and has bare minimum content to pass as a full game, then charged for 2 expansions that should have been in the main game." Did you just take the average EA title and replace it with CDPR? Because everyone on this site and its surrounding parent sites knows your full of shit. Arguing with a contrarian is pointless. The rest of the crap you spewed can be summarized with Micro-transactions to compensate for "free DLC and maps" and the fact that if I feel like I played for a long time and had enjoyment the entire way then I can say the game is full. I can't say that with most of the titles out these days, and then you went into a Asperger fit full of spelling, grammatical, and punctuation errors right after you gave that 1 downvote to every pro CDPR comment and followed up with lies and logical fallacy responses to them on this article. GG
Has everybody forgotten about the 16!!! free DLC's CDPR released in the weeks after the Witcher release?
@Rachel_Alucard "Against stupidity, the Gods themselves, contend in vain". You may as well give up because he is now - la la la can't hear you - la la la can't hear you
@Rachel- "knows your full of shit." Oh, so you don't have any logic, just personal attacks based on emotion? Isn't that what this is all about? You folks liking 1 publisher over the other? Lets be honest, this had nothing to do with one giving something for free and the other not doing it. Its why you can't say anything about EA giving free content, yet you also can't say anything about CDPR charging for content either. I own both publishers games and the example given was to show that the argument can be made about any game. So this "everyone knows" doesn't work. Any link can show you, both have given free content before. How much you like either is irrelevant I own Witcher 3 and I can still understand that they for a fact charged for their expansions. No bias regarding me liking the game. If you can't stick to facts on this and your emotions are all over the place, you have no real place talking about what is being given for free and what isn't or what is a "full game" vs another. "followed up with lies" Then post the truth... Did EA, Ubisoft, MS and many publishers not give content for free before? ie entire expansions? Did CDPR not charge for those 2 expansions? Any link can prove those statements. The issue is many on this site simply look at raw emotion. I don't care you dislike EA....thats not the point. Consider I don't add in that I like all the Witcher games and OWN ALL THE WITCHER games to OBJECTIVE facts. Anyone who has me on PSN can confirm I've had Witcher 3 day 1. This isn't about if you like 1 publisher over the other (as it sounds like that is your issues emotionally) this is about facts. Fact remains that many publishers give content for free....fact. CDPR gave content for free....fact....they did not however give their expansions for free, yet EA, Ubisoft and MS did with a few titles. I'm not telling you to like EA, I'm not telling you to hate CDPR, I'm not going to name call either....simply look at facts vs emotions.
Selling an expansion that was up for GOTY (don't know if it won) doesn't seem like an issue to me. Any of those free ones come close to that? Which of the EA or Ubi free expansions were close to that?
Taco I definitely agree with you the expansions from The Witcher 3 where are easily some of the best expansions I've ever played for any game. But that's not really the point the point is that they were still charged for what I'm trying to say is leave what you like about the game out of the objective fact. Is the problem that you don't like the quality of Electronic Arts games? What's funny is that's not even what's being debated lol At the end of the day Electronic Arts Ubisoft Microsoft released several games with free expansions. I would love to see CD projekt Red release cyberpunk 2077 with 2 free expansions. Put it this way I own the Witcher 3 and I'm saying this because I'm trying to make a point with how people objectively View certain aspects of Gaming. I mean I own Rainbow Six Siege and I don't play it nowhere near as much as I played The Witcher 3 but I still understand and give credit for Ubisoft giving free content for the life of that game. What I'm saying is leave your bias out of it. Absolutely The Witcher 3 is an amazing game and absolutely cyberpunk 2077 will be an amazing title as well, but we are talking about is what company objectively for a fact gave out to free content in the reality is all the companies were all talking about I've given out free content but clearly CD projekt Red is not willing to give out free expansions. Whether you like those expansions or not or the quality of them is actually irrelevant. I mean put it this way it's like your argument is basically "I really really really really really like Witcher 3"
That's one of the caveats of being an independent developer. They aren't founded and ran by conglomerates that aren't apart of the gaming industry that simply wants to profit.
"We leave greed to others" oh boy...i like this one....lol. Brilliant
The Witcher 3 is available DRM free on PC because they believe that if it's a quality game people will pay for it. It still sold exceptionally well on PC completely blowing apart the idea that lack of DRM to prevent piracy hurts PC game sales. All around an amazing company.
Now that’s amazing response, CD Project Red.
Ha, and we are just talking about them.😆
To be fair, in light of the huge backlash against MTs, they weren't going to say, "Yes, we are trying to join the loot-box club" are they? Even if they were to actually consider implementing loot-boxes in CP2077, they weren't going to come out and say it while gamers are vocally rebelling against anything related to loot-boxes. They're not stupid. Gamers are way too easy to rile up and way too easy to appease again. Personally, I'll always remember that interview with the CDPR head, because I don't believe for a second that he'd randomly spew out something like that if it didn't have some amount of truth to it. Since the game release is at least a couple of years away, there's lots of time for the current loot-box hate to die down and for CDPR to implement it into CP2077 without much resistance from their fanbase.
Yes yes this is good for gaming support CD OVER EA
Bu .. .buut . . buttt bigger publishers worth more are barley making ends meet if we don't give them ALL our monies they won't be able to keep the lights on . . . WE NEED DLC,SEASON PASSES,MTS,GAMBLE BOXES, DELUXE SUPER DUPER SMACK YO MAMA EDITIONS, ETC TO BREAK EVEN; HERE IS MY PAYCHECK IN ADVANCE FOR THE PRE-ORDER SPECIAL AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Other publishers are starving, mayne ! Have no money for houses to live, bills to pay and bread to be buttered.
understandable, I try to support every dev I can I'm speaking more with regards to the big head honchos who drain us dry so that even if we wanted to support smaller devs we'd have nothing left. there is a reason tweets like this go viral and make news articles users are so tired of being abused and taken for every penny. it shouldn't be a magical feeling when you end a game and can say "wow that was a complete masterpiece and all I had to pay was the initial fee" you shouldn't feel like your doing a endless grind after only 6 hours into a game while being prompted to buy a specific item to ease the grind . . .video games should entertain you not manipulate you. Games are becoming a turn off because I know when I purchase it even though it has a premium price i'll be expected to give even more as if they are insulting my initial payment, this is why the indie scene is being praised as it is now because people are getting fed up with the premium-freemium style games AAA studios are producing, we got into this hobby because it was fun it was escapism now though its beginning to feel like work and a task. Consumers are people at the end of the day we go through a lot of stuff we work and we have obligations just like developers/publishers the respect needs to go both ways otherwise everything will break and right now the industry seems to lack respect for those who support it. Okay that was a lot more than needed to be said you're probably like "wth is he going on about" this is more a general statement than directed towards you. I feel like I'm doing a edmix post right now or whatever his name is lol sorry >.<
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How all publishers should be.
This response will also teach people like @Jinger and @Moldybread that making video game isn’t about money.
It's about passion. But also a little bit about money too. Gotta eat!😆
lol Ya, right. Don't hold your breath on that one.
Umm ok This is a business if it wasn't about money then CD projekt Red would clearly have not charged people for the expansions to The Witcher 3. Also I'm not really sure why you believe they might mean it's only about money and nothing else , clearly developers and Publishers alike fully understand that in order to get customers money they still must actually make a fun game so I see no reason to try to throw shade and create this impossible either or statement as if that's actually what they meant when I'm pretty positive it wasn't. Come on buddy grow up I know you're bigger than that. I mean come on you and I both know that CD projekt Red did not release Witcher 3 for free and then give you the expansions completely for free yet ironically the expansions to Battlefront 2 are free the expansions to Titanfall 2 are free the expansions to Rainbow Six Siege are free in the expansions to Halo 5 or completely for free. ..... So it's very difficult to go on this tirade about these Publishers when CD projekt Red themselves are not even giving their expansions for free yet the Publishers your continuously Throwing Shade at actually did something CD projekt Red didn't even do. You know maybe it's about money..😎
Sure, it’s about money. But too much money is greedy. You just need enough money to build a game.
Ucforce They need just enough money to make a profit. Nothing wrong with that. They are a company and there are worlds between making a respectable profit and being greedy and try to squeez even the last penny out of consumers who supported you to become a multimillion dollar company.
@UF- they do not need just enough simply to build the game, I mean they need enough to justify them being able to continue doing so for the next project. I mean what you're actually advocating is they need just enough to break even.... That basically means the company could be out of business even with one bad game. Keep in mind the point that I'm trying to make is that you fully understand that gaming is a business, so whatever beef you have what those other users please stop trying to pretend as if they were trying to suggest that developers do not want to make games for enjoyment. I'm sure multiple Publishers exist that enjoy creating games for that purpose but I'm also pretty damn sure they also want a roof over their head with enough money to survive. I mean put it this way are you asking why CD projekt Red charged money for the expansions? How come you're not seeing that as "greedy?" Bought Titanfall 2 Rainbow Six Siege in Halo 5 are giving all their Maps away completely for free.... Are you giving praise to these developers and publishers? Because technically speaking if microtransactions based on what Disney might be saying never come back and Battlefront 2 that actually means you're going to have a game in which all the maps and content will be free.... That is not the case for The Witcher 3 because you had to pay for those expansions. So it's very difficult to understand what you consider greedy because I do not see you holding the developers to a pedal stool that have decided to give their post-launch content away completely for free no strings attached. So when The Witcher 3 release its expansions were free or did they charge? So do I need to pay to get new maps in Battlefront 2 I forget? Is there a season pass like there was for Witcher 3? There are many Publishers and developers that charge for season pass and there's many Publishers that decide they want to give it away for free I'm sorry but CD projekt Red as of right now is not one of those Publishers that's giving away their expansions for free....
@edmix Pfft,comparing mp game with sp game, hahaha, someone is butthurt really bad Have u played the w3 expansion?, its worth the money, dont compare it with mp game map, just go play csgo, theyve been giving out free maps since release You do realize cdpr giving out free w3 dlcs? And those games u mentions some have microtransactions, or some ultimate edition, or loot boxess Meh
Any 1 of Cd project Red's expansions for The Witcher 3 had more content and well worth the little price i paid than every EA piece of shit game put together. Just admit you like getting robbed by greedy bastards like EA, we get it , bet your ass is red and sore from them.
"Worry not. When thinking CP2077, think nothing less than TW3 — huge single player, open world, story-driven RPG. No hidden catch, you get what you pay for — no bullshit, just honest gaming like with Wild Hunt. We leave greed to others." And really, what's wrong with this type of business? Make good game, sell lots of it, make good money. Why, why, why, are these "AAA" companies such greedy, cancerous f**kwads? I just hope to see the dissolution of many of these trash heap publishers, and watch their own greed destroy them. Party at my place if we live to see the day EA gets shuttered. Gaming would be a far better hobby without them. The irony in that EA was founded on the very principle of giving the "artists" (the actual game creators), recognition, and the initial goal of the company by Trip was to take "gaming" to new creative freedoms and levels. Here we are today, an EA is the quintessential villain of the hobby. Can't make this stuff up.
Corporate profits and stock value
Exactly what I wanted to hear. I love this developer. The best in the business.
😂😂😂 when those rumors of Electronic Arts looking to buy CD projekt Red start to make more sense.
Queue the Thug Life meme. #SavageProjektRED
Will have to wait and see.They certainly took Microsoft's marketing money like any other publisher, nothing special about them there. And this was at the time when Xbone WASN'T launching in Poland until a year later and the Xbox version, they were promoting first, was going to be the most DRM riddled version of them all, which is hilarious for a developer like CDPR that OWNS GOG, a DRM free platform. For me this was always an embarrassing decision they made and it just took so much integrity and all that awesomeness away that so many people claim they have compared to other devs.
You're making mountains without any molehills, even.
Goood yessssss... now please CDPR fix those goddamn crashes in The Witcher 3 on the ps4 pro already ! :(
Sounds like they mean they'll build the universe of Cyberpunk around us periodically, with minor stuff for free and larger parts like expansion DLC. They were already doing games as a service... CDPR have always served the customer. With respect and rewarding loyalty and fandom, not more ways to rip us off. Publishers take note.
Man that's a breath of fresh air. Just honest and to the point. No bullshit just facts!!!!!!!
day one, even if it turned out to be bad (which is EXTREMELY unlikely). we need to support competent devs from now on. throw your money ppl!
So far they've given no reason for me not to trust them, one of the few devs who has not let me down even once.
What a statement. I applaud CDPR
Love or hate them and their games, there is no denying that they are good at PR.
Respect for these guys, what a great developer.
I bought The Complete Edition for Xbox One X in anticipation of the new patch. They deserve the money. Love these guys.
After all that accusations of mobbing, bullying, sexism and obligatory working overtime that we could read recently I am not sure if I really want to support CDPR.
"Games as services" just reading this already causes me nausea. Of course CD Projekt Red would stay away from this bullshit, they are polish, so the most epic people of the world's most epic country.
Leave the greed to others and watch them reap the rewards, no need for it when you’re work is of the highest calibre, it speaks for itself. Thank fuck for studios like CDPR.
Nice response, but hopefully they can maintain that attitude. CDPR hasn't been in the limelight that long so let's see if they can keep it up.
Project Red still bringing it!